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Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK
Until he does something, I don't see why there's any reason to do anything more than feel bad that his parents are terrible people. Donny Jr., Eric, Ivanka, and their spouses are all more than terrible enough people in their own right if you feel the need to yell at non-DJT Trumps.

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Jesus III
May 23, 2007

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

He is a possibly autistic teen boy who isn't involved in his dad's business or politics. Unless he starts giving interviews or becomes CEO of his dad's company, then it is probably fine to leave him alone.

It is very on brand for Trump to force the state parties to make his entire family delegates, but it doesn't really mean anything in a practical sense. His other kids are already deeply intertwined in his presidency, campaign, and business.

He's acting as a delegate to nominate his father at a political convention. He's 18 and he graduated from a prestigious boarding school.
I don't care if he's autistic, he's now an official member of the Trump crime family.

Diagnosing people as autistic because of hearsay and pictures is moronic.

Crows Turn Off
Jan 7, 2008


Becoming a Republican delegate is "doing something" and he's officially getting into the family's political business.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/IAPolls2022/status/1788535979957014630

Both Dem candidates have now opened up a double digit lead on Hogan, as we all expected (I think this will end up closer to 20 when it's all said and done)

Also looks like Cuellar is hosed

quote:

Two political strategists have agreed to plead guilty to conspiring with U.S. Rep. Henry Cuellar to launder more than $200,000 in bribes.

The Department of Justice struck plea deals earlier this year with Colin Strother, of Buda, and Florencio "Lencho" Rendon, of San Antonio, ensuring their cooperation in the investigation of Cuellar, a Laredo Democrat, according to court documents unsealed Wednesday and Thursday.

A federal indictment unsealed last Friday accuses Cuellar, 68, and his wife Imelda Cuellar, 67, of collecting nearly $600,000 in payoffs from a Mexico City bank and Azerbaijan government officials from 2014 to 2021.

Prosecutors filed criminal information documents in February against Strother — a high-profile campaign manager known in San Antonio for his outspoken, aggressive style — and Rendon, and plea agreements were struck in March. As part of their agreement to plead guilty to money laundering conspiracy, each faces up to 20 years in prison and a fine of up to $500,000.


zoux fucked around with this message at 18:37 on May 9, 2024

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


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In shocking and unexpected news, the Neuralink project that killed dozens of monkeys has experienced a problem in the first human test subject serious enough that they considered surgery to remove the device.

The company says there is no direct danger to the patient right now, but parts of the device have detached from his brain and several of the extremely tiny neural link fibers have become loose in his skull cavity.

CNBC has the understatement of the year as the final (bolded) sentence in the story.

quote:


Neuralink’s first in-human brain implant has experienced a problem, company says


- Neuralink on Wednesday said part of its brain implant malfunctioned in the weeks following its first in-human procedure.
- The company has built a brain-computer interface that could help patients with paralysis control external technologies with their minds.
- In January, Neuralink implanted the device in a 29-year-old patient named Noland Arbaugh.
- A number of threads have retracted from Arbaugh’s brain, Neuralink said in a blog post Wednesday.


Elon Musk’s startup Neuralink on Wednesday said part of its brain implant malfunctioned after it put the system in a human patient for the first time.

Neuralink has built a brain-computer interface, or a BCI, that could eventually help patients with paralysis control external technology using only their minds. The company’s system, called the Link, records neural signals using 1,024 electrodes across 64 “threads” that are thinner than a human hair, according to its website.

In January, Neuralink implanted the device in a 29-year-old patient named Noland Arbaugh as part of a study to test its safety. The company streamed a live video with Arbaugh as he used the BCI in March, and Neuralink said in an April blog post that the surgery went “extremely well.”

But in the weeks afterward, a number of threads have retracted from Arbaugh’s brain, Neuralink said in a blog post Wednesday. This meant there were fewer effective electrodes, which inhibited the company’s ability to measure the Link’s speed and accuracy.

Neuralink did not disclose how many threads retracted from the tissue. The company did not immediately respond to CNBC’s request for comment.

As a workaround, Neuralink said it modified the recording algorithm, enhanced the user interface and worked to improve techniques for translating signals into cursor movements, the blog post said. Neuralink reportedly considered removing the implant, but the problem hasn’t posed a direct risk to Arbaugh’s safety, according to The Wall Street Journal, who earlier reported on the problem. Neuralink shared its blog post after the Journal asked the company about the issue, according to the report.

Though some threads retracted from Arbaugh’s brain tissue, Neuralink said he is using the company’s BCI system for around eight hours a day during the week, and often as many as 10 hours a day on the weekends.

Arbaugh said the Link is like a “luxury overload,” and it has helped him to “reconnect with the world,” according to the blog post.

Neuralink is not the only company that is building a BCI system, and the technology has been explored in academic settings for decades.

Neuralink has a long road of safety and efficacy testing ahead before it can be eligible for approval from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration to commercialize the technology.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/08/neuralinks-first-in-human-brain-implant-has-experienced-a-problem-company-says-.html

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound
In case anyone forgot, a porn star testified today under oath that Donald Trump, a former president of the United States, had intercourse with her while he was married and then paid her to not tell the story.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

In case anyone forgot, a porn star testified today under oath that Donald Trump, a former president of the United States, had intercourse with her while he was married and then paid her to not tell the story.

https://twitter.com/CNNThisMorning/status/1788611760636805347

An unassailable case for print media

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



It's really loving creepy that he apparently thought she looked like his daughter when they were in bed

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


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FlamingLiberal posted:

It's really loving creepy that he apparently thought she looked like his daughter when they were in bed

The only thing he said about their physical similarities is that they were both blond and beautiful. He said the main way that the woman he was paying for sex reminded him of his daughter was that they are both "smart and underestimated."

Trump's love of porn stars and his daughter isn't just skin deep.

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

Willa Rogers posted:

Could you provide some recent polls backing up these majority-opinion contentions?

I am pretty sure they're directly describing the poll results I shared.

Civilized Fishbot posted:

Here are some actual numbers on how Americans feel about the Gaza war. Most Americans believe Israel is right to be conducting the war (or at least has a right to do it), but is doing it in the wrong way. But most Americans, especially young Americans, simply don't care.

Biden needs to worry about Muslims in Michigan but - and this disappoints me - the Gaza war appears to lack popularity or infamy. It just doesn't matter to Americans very much.

Half of us don't even know that more Palestinians have died than Israelis.

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021


you could absolutely spank the presidents big wet rear end with a computer, it is called a laptop

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

lobster shirt posted:

you could absolutely spank the presidents big wet rear end with a computer, it is called a laptop

Certainly with a tablet or even one of the larger android phones

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Someone has clearly never seen the 2008 documentary Wanted.

koolkal
Oct 21, 2008

this thread maybe doesnt have room for 2 green xbox one avs

lobster shirt posted:

you could absolutely spank the presidents big wet rear end with a computer, it is called a laptop

CNN's median viewer age is 70, they know their audience.

gurragadon
Jul 28, 2006

I really wish they put cameras in court for this case. I've been trying to watch CNN every once in a while, but them reading messages from someone in the courtroom and analyzing them was unbearable.

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

Civilized Fishbot posted:

I am pretty sure they're directly describing the poll results I shared.

Thanks, but as you originally pointed out the Pew survey said:

quote:

This issue is challenging for many people – both emotionally and in terms of understanding the specifics of the war. Many Americans are also disengaged: Relatively few (22%) say they are closely following news about the war, and half can correctly report that more Palestinians than Israelis have died since the war’s start.

And that differs from Leon's claim, which was:

quote:

A majority of Americans say they have paid no attention to the war at all and can't even tell you which side has had more casualties - despite the war and casualty numbers being blared on the news non-stop for 6 months.

Looking at the original survey:



I would add that this survey was taken 2.5 months ago, from Feb. 13-25, and that sentiment about Israel's action has been quite fluid since Oct. 7, which is particularly why I asked for a recent survey.

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

When it comes to paying attention to the war, the same survey found:

quote:

Most people are not paying close attention to the Israel-Hamas war. The survey finds that 22% of U.S. adults say they have been following news about the war extremely or very closely, while 35% say they are following it somewhat closely, and 43% are following not too or not at all closely.

(emph. added)

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

Willa Rogers posted:

When it comes to paying attention to the war, the same survey found:

(emph. added)

I think if a pollster asks "how much you been paying attention to this war" it's like when your dentist asks how often you floss - people give what could charitably called highly exaggerated answers because they want to look like responsible people.

Pw was really smart to ask questions about the war. Anyone who'd been following the war to any significant degree would immediately be able to tell you that far, far more Palestinians had died than Israelis.

The fact that 48% of people couldn't answer that question correctly means that at least 48% weren't following the war at any meaningful level, at least at the time of polling. Hopefully the protests are moving that, but I worry that media focuses exclusively on the protests themselves and not the horror the protests are pointing at.

I think ideally the poll would include less questions about how much people care/have been following, and more of these "quiz" questions. Maybe increasing in difficulty/obscurity, so if you get the relative-casualties question correct, they then ask if you know whether Palestinian casualties are mostly military or mostly civilian, if you know whether Palestinians have the option to leave Gaza, if you know where the IDF next intends to strike...

But in a world where poll responsiveness is already low, I think it would exacerbate the problem because people prefer to be asked their opinions over being quizzed.

Civilized Fishbot fucked around with this message at 20:34 on May 9, 2024

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/piper4missouri/status/1788608552195539180

Has anyone ever done a full accounting of the number of Republican elected officials and party operatives that have been convicted of sex crimes against minors? Maybe it's just whatever bias, but I can't recall a single non-conservative politician who's been arrested for child molestation or CSAM. (No evidence this guy is a pedophile besides saying some extremely pedophilic poo poo)

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead
To give the recalcitrant Missouri Republicans the tiniest possible amount of credit, the current state of child marriage in Missouri is "16 and 17 year olds can marry someone 16-20 with parental consent". It's only a little pedophilic.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
How long do you think it'll take to find a quote from that guy demanding that the government step in to prevent same-sex marriage?

koolkal
Oct 21, 2008

this thread maybe doesnt have room for 2 green xbox one avs
IIRC something like 40+ states allow child marriage although the number is going down every year nowadays. I remember when I used to live in NJ and that disgusting gently caress Christie vetoed it.

Was wild to see him as a regular on ABC afterwards as if he was a normal dude.

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

zoux posted:

https://twitter.com/piper4missouri/status/1788608552195539180

Has anyone ever done a full accounting of the number of Republican elected officials and party operatives that have been convicted of sex crimes against minors? Maybe it's just whatever bias, but I can't recall a single non-conservative politician who's been arrested for child molestation or CSAM. (No evidence this guy is a pedophile besides saying some extremely pedophilic poo poo)

Anthony Weiner

Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

haveblue posted:

How long do you think it'll take to find a quote from that guy demanding that the government step in to prevent same-sex marriage?

Will trans healthcare for minors do? If so, about sixty seconds.

quote:

The Missouri House on Tuesday gave initial approval to bills that would ban certain medical procedures for transgender minors and prohibit transgender athletes from competing in school sports according to their gender identity.

The legislation is similar to a pair of Senate bills that chamber approved last month. A House committee held a public hearing on those Senate bills Tuesday night.

The ban on gender-affirming care brought the most discussion, and two Republicans broke from their party to vote “no,” resulting in a 106-45 vote.Republican Rep. Chris Sander of Lone Jack, who is openly gay, voted “no” along with House Majority Leader Jon Patterson, R-Lee’s Summit, who is a doctor.

Benton Republican Rep. Jamie Burger’s bill delineating sports participation by sex as assigned at birth was approved on a 107-41 vote. Sander once again voted “no,” along with Republican Rep. Tony Lovasco of O’Fallon. Rep. Alan Gray of Florissant was the only Democrat to vote in favor of the bill on Tuesday.

Both bills need to be approved by the House one more time before they go to the Senate.

Rep. Brad Hudson, R-Cape Fair, said the purpose of his bill regarding transgender health care has remained consistent throughout the legislative process.

“We are trying to protect Missouri’s children from unnecessary and harmful sex change drugs and surgeries,” he said.


Democrats offered a handful of amendments that were rejected for not relating to the core bill.

Rep. Sarah Unsicker, D-Shrewsbury, offered an amendment called the “Missouri Declaration of the Rights of the Child.”

The amendment offered rights for minors, such as “right of the child to freedom of thought, conscience, and religion.” It says the best interests of the child should be institutions’ primary concern.

Rep. Dean Van Schoiack, R-Savannah, called a point of order, saying Unsicker’s amendment did not fit.


“We are all here to protect our children,” Unsicker said, arguing for her proposal.

The amendment was ruled out of order
So kids should be able to choose to make major life decisions like getting married but not healthcare.

Xombie
May 22, 2004

Soul Thrashing
Black Sorcery

zoux posted:

https://twitter.com/piper4missouri/status/1788608552195539180

Has anyone ever done a full accounting of the number of Republican elected officials and party operatives that have been convicted of sex crimes against minors? Maybe it's just whatever bias, but I can't recall a single non-conservative politician who's been arrested for child molestation or CSAM. (No evidence this guy is a pedophile besides saying some extremely pedophilic poo poo)

This google doc is a pretty good start.

Crows Turn Off
Jan 7, 2008


Why is the government getting involved in the lives of people who want to marry children, I ask, as I try to involve the government in the lives of gay people, transgendered people, and racial minorities.

Jesus III
May 23, 2007
It's all about religion. If your 14 year old daughter gets pregnant, God insists that she be married to the 40 year old who molested her.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Morrow posted:

She stopped by a gravel pit in a construction site on the way home, clearly intending to just dispose of the dog and leave the workers to clean it up after her. She then came back with a goat intending to do the same thing, failed to cleanly kill the goat, and ultimately got chased off by the construction workers.

This story has staying power because it's so unhinged.

For me the weirdest part of the story that is largely ignored is definitely the part where she’s like “hmm… what else have I been meaning to kill?” like someone running down a list of chores.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
I knew Kia's were stolen often because an old USB-A stick could turn the ignition or whatever but do Hyundais have the same problem too?

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


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Boris Galerkin posted:

I knew Kia's were stolen often because an old USB-A stick could turn the ignition or whatever but do Hyundais have the same problem too?

Yes. Hyundai owns Kia and they use a lot of the same parts.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

Boris Galerkin posted:

I knew Kia's were stolen often because an old USB-A stick could turn the ignition or whatever but do Hyundais have the same problem too?

Yes. Both of them have easy-to-exploit hardware vulnerabilities and instructions for stealing them are circulating on Tiktok. Basically, if you rip out certain externally accessible parts you can get access to their CAN bus, which is just a simple computer network. You can then hack the computers on that network, such as the ones responsible for unlocking the doors and starting the engine

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice

zoux posted:

https://twitter.com/IAPolls2022/status/1788535979957014630

Both Dem candidates have now opened up a double digit lead on Hogan, as we all expected (I think this will end up closer to 20 when it's all said and done)

Also looks like Cuellar is hosed

Another bit of evidence on the pile that maybe people should treat early polls with a pinch of salt because yeah.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


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The University of California reached an agreement with the pro-Palestinian protestors to dismantle the encampment on campus in exchange for a list of demands.

I'm wondering if the protestors originally started as a sympathy protest without any demands because the list they agreed to seems very strange.

The concessions they agreed to are:

- All info on the deal will be posted publicly on the school website.
- Create a task force to study if the university endowment is invested in any arms companies and present it to the board by December 2025.
- Commit to bimonthly meetings with a student group to discuss removing Sabra hummus from the cafeteria.
- The business school will discontinue study abroad programs in England, Cuba, Vietnam, Brazil, China, Egypt, Jordan, and Israel.
- The school will review their anti-discrimination policy for study abroad trips.

https://insideucr.ucr.edu/announcements/2024/05/03/agreement-peacefully-end-encampment-campus

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




Besides Israel, did they pick the study abroad counties out of a hat?

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

zoux posted:

https://twitter.com/piper4missouri/status/1788608552195539180

Has anyone ever done a full accounting of the number of Republican elected officials and party operatives that have been convicted of sex crimes against minors? Maybe it's just whatever bias, but I can't recall a single non-conservative politician who's been arrested for child molestation or CSAM. (No evidence this guy is a pedophile besides saying some extremely pedophilic poo poo)

there used to be a twitter account that did something like "not a drag queen" and had like dozens of youth pastors and other R adjacent peeps, but im prettysure the account died in musk's mess in the last two years or so.

Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

Besides Israel, did they pick the study abroad counties out of a hat?

My guess is it was tit for tat one country that’s been reported as supplying Hamas militants for one country supporting Israel militarily or something.

Getting rid of Sabras from the cafeteria is something we can all agree on I think. That stuff is garbage.

PharmerBoy
Jul 21, 2008
The university FAQ had a vague description about the discussions revealing that a bunch of study abroad violated some university guidelines.

Probably some combo of the activists pushing for Israel study abroad to be banned under a university rule that had been ignored for a bunch of places for a while and/or the university taking the time to audit a bunch of study abroad when someone made them look at it and realizing there was some sort of wide-spread issue.

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

The University of California reached an agreement with the pro-Palestinian protestors to dismantle the encampment on campus in exchange for a list of demands.

I'm wondering if the protestors originally started as a sympathy protest without any demands because the list they agreed to seems very strange.

The concessions they agreed to are:

- All info on the deal will be posted publicly on the school website.
- Create a task force to study if the university endowment is invested in any arms companies and present it to the board by December 2025.
- Commit to bimonthly meetings with a student group to discuss removing Sabra hummus from the cafeteria.
- The business school will discontinue study abroad programs in England, Cuba, Vietnam, Brazil, China, Egypt, Jordan, and Israel.
- The school will review their anti-discrimination policy for study abroad trips.

https://insideucr.ucr.edu/announcements/2024/05/03/agreement-peacefully-end-encampment-campus

What's strange about it? Sabra is owned by an Israeli company. And while it's not immediately obvious what the study abroad stuff is about, the fact that "ending these study abroad programs" is immediately followed by "making sure future study abroad programs comply with anti-discrimination rules" tells enough of a story that it's possible to guess at the rest. It's likely some local campus issue that's never made national news.

One correction here, though. This agreement is not with University of California. It's with University of California Riverside, just one of the University of California's ten campuses. The rest of the University of California schools aren't involved.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

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Main Paineframe posted:

What's strange about it? Sabra is owned by an Israeli company.

The study abroad choices seem random, Sabra is owned by Frito-Lay (which is a subsidiary of PepsiCo) and produced in Virginia, their campus doesn't control the university endowment and can't actually make changes to it, and the commitment to bimonthly meetings to talk about Sabra until it is resolved is strange. How much are they expecting to talk about hummus that they need commitments for bimonthly meetings? And why is Sabra the only company cited instead of any that actually make things in Israel or are owned 100% by an Israeli company?

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Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

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According to the Washington Post, Trump allegedly called in all the CEOs of big oil companies and offered them "a deal" to give him $1 billion dollars in exchange for reversing all of the Biden administration's new regulations on oil production, dramatically reducing taxes on oil companies, and end the ban on drilling in the gulf of Mexico and natural gas exports on "the first day" of his presidency.

They said they had spent $400 million lobbying the Biden administration, but were getting minimal results. Trump said to stop spending the money on lobbying and to directly fund a Super PAC for him instead as an investment that they would more than make their money back from.

https://twitter.com/byHeatherLong/status/1788582607086579771

quote:

What Trump promised oil CEOs as he asked them to steer $1 billion to his campaign

As Donald Trump sat with some of the country’s top oil executives at his Mar-a-Lago Club last month, one executive complained about how they continued to face burdensome environmental regulations despite spending $400 million to lobby the Biden administration in the last year.

Trump’s response stunned several of the executives in the room overlooking the ocean: You all are wealthy enough, he said, that you should raise $1 billion to return me to the White House. At the dinner, he vowed to immediately reverse dozens of President Biden’s environmental rules and policies and stop new ones from being enacted, according to people with knowledge of the meeting, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe a private conversation.

Giving $1 billion would be a “deal,” Trump said, because of the taxation and regulation they would avoid thanks to him, according to the people.

Trump’s remarkably blunt and transactional pitch reveals how the former president is targeting the oil industry to finance his reelection bid. At the same time, he has turned to the industry to help shape his environmental agenda for a second term, including the rollbacks of some of Biden’s signature achievements on clean energy and electric vehicles.

The contrast between the two candidates on climate policy could not be more stark. Biden has called global warming an “existential threat,” and over the last three years, his administration has finalized more than 100 new environmental regulations aimed at cutting air pollution and greenhouse gas emissions, restricting toxic chemicals, and conserving public lands and waters. In comparison, Trump has called climate change a “hoax,” and his administration weakened or wiped out more than 125 environmental rules and policies over four years.

In recent months, the Biden administration has raced to overturn Trump’s environmental actions and issue new ones before the November election. So far, Biden officials have overturned 27 Trump actions affecting the fossil fuel industry and completed at least 24 new actions affecting the sector, according to a Washington Post analysis. The Interior Department, for instance, recently blocked future oil drilling across 13 million acres of the Alaskan Arctic.

Despite the oil industry’s complaints about Biden’s policies, the United States is now producing more oil than any country ever has, pumping nearly 13 million barrels per day on average last year. ExxonMobil and Chevron, the largest U.S. energy companies, reported their biggest annual profits in a decade last year.

Yet oil giants will see an even greater windfall — helped by new offshore drilling, speedier permits and other relaxed regulations — in a second Trump administration, the former president told the executives over the dinner of chopped steak at Mar-a-Lago.

Trump vowed at the dinner to immediately end the Biden administration’s freeze on permits for new liquefied natural gas (LNG) exports — a top priority for the executives, according to three people present. “You’ll get it on the first day,” Trump said, according to the recollection of an attendee.

The roughly two dozen executives invited included Mike Sabel, the CEO and founder of Venture Global, and Jack Fusco, the CEO of Cheniere Energy, whose proposed projects would directly benefit from lifting the pause on new LNG exports. Other attendees came from companies including Chevron, Continental Resources, Exxon and Occidental Petroleum, according to an attendance list obtained by The Post.

Trump told the executives that he would start auctioning off more leases for oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico, a priority that several of the executives raised. He railed against wind power, as The Post previously reported. And he said he would reverse the restrictions on drilling in the Alaskan Arctic.

“You’ve been waiting on a permit for five years; you’ll get it on Day 1,” Trump told the executives, according to the recollection of the attendee.

At the dinner, Trump also promised that he would scrap Biden’s “mandate” on electric vehicles — mischaracterizing ambitious rules that the Environmental Protection Agency recently finalized, according to people who attended. The rules require automakers to reduce emissions from car tailpipes, but they don’t mandate a particular technology such as EVs. Trump called them “ridiculous” in the meeting with donors.

The fossil fuel industry has aggressively lobbied against the EPA’s tailpipe rules, which could eat into demand for its petroleum products. The American Fuel & Petrochemical Manufacturers, an industry trade group, has launched a seven-figure campaign against what it calls a de facto “gas car ban.” The campaign includes ads in battleground states warning that the rule will restrict consumer choice.

“Clearly, if you are producing gasoline and diesel, you want to make sure that there’s enough market there,” said Stephen Brown, an energy consultant and a former lobbyist for Tesoro, an oil refining company. “I don’t know that the oil industry would walk in united with a set of asks for the Trump administration, but I think it’s important for this issue to get raised.”

Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 01:12 on May 10, 2024

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