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Ether Frenzy posted:There's a whole amazing list of "English words that are not pronounced in any remotely proximal way to how they are spelled" and it's handy having an English wife to explain those to me. Has she been introduced to the Shutdown Fullcast’s “England or Alabama?” game? Braksgirl posted:It's so funny to me that people try to pronounce Cockburn as Co-burn and it's like "Nah, you ain't fooling me. I can see that cock in you." Phrasing! 
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Ether Frenzy posted:I don't disagree that what Israel is doing is not the correct action, but "I know more about regional history and things are more complicated than the average person is aware of" is not the opposite position to that stance, either.
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May 10, 2024 12:22
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harperdc posted:Has she been introduced to the Shutdown Fullcast’s “England or Alabama?” game? Not yet, but I'm looking it up because she loves that kind of thing. Thanks for the heads up! Fifty Three posted:She's framing it that way, though. That's what Skwirl's (rightfully imho) mad about. "They're only pro-Palestine because they don't know as much about the history of the region as I do."
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May 10, 2024 12:24
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The problem is the dems have been implicity pro-Israel with regards to the ongoing killing so she comes off as saying the only reason people don't support exterminating Palestine is lack of education
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May 10, 2024 12:39
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The protests aren't about 'peace in the Middle East' though. They're specifically about what is happening in Gaza, which is a very straightforward situation.
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May 10, 2024 12:39
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Oh you got opinions? Well where’s your masters in the subject? Yeah, thought so.
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May 10, 2024 12:40
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The whole clip is really about how Palestine rejected the two state solution that Bill Clinton’s administration tried to work out back in 2000. She’s essentially blaming Palestine for the current war for rejecting the deal, which to me is even worse than just saying young people don’t know history.
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Grozz Nuy posted:The protests aren't about 'peace in the Middle East' though. They're specifically about what is happening in Gaza, which is a very straightforward situation. lol
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May 10, 2024 12:42
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Bird in a Blender posted:The whole clip is really about how Palestine rejected the two state solution that Bill Clinton’s administration tried to work out back in 2000. She’s essentially blaming Palestine for the current war for rejecting the deal, which to me is even worse than just saying young people don’t know history. Which is a stupid solution since King Solomon already tried it eons ago with a baby and all we learned is that if you really want it, you will not accept half of it.
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May 10, 2024 12:44
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3 DONG HORSE posted:Which is a stupid solution since King Solomon already tried it eons ago with a baby and all we learned is that if you really want it, you will not accept half of it. Yea that was probably the breaking point for both groups. Each wanted the same parts of Jerusalem and coming up with a compromise was near impossible. It’s not like this was some one-sided rejection by Palestine either, both Israel and Palestine had parts to play in negotiations breaking down. It was probably the closest we came to a deal though.
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May 10, 2024 12:49
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FizFashizzle posted:Oh you got opinions? Listen buddy only experience* matters *Experience bombing poors lmao
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May 10, 2024 12:55
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Ether Frenzy posted:I don't disagree that what Israel is doing is not the correct action, but "I know more about regional history and things are more complicated than the average person is aware of" is not the opposite position to that stance, either. Calling it “complicated” is a calculated obfuscation to make it seem like there is some secret justification for Israel to bomb children and hospitals with US armaments. It has nothing to do with her knowledge. These people work backwards from the conclusion they want.
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May 10, 2024 12:58
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Android Apocalypse posted:All of this could been avoided if the American colonists just lost the war & England kept Georgia as their penal colony. As it stands those folks are all Floridians now.
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May 10, 2024 13:11
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No Butt Stuff posted:As it stands those folks are all Floridians now. Florida would be a pretty cool place if we could kick out most of the people from other states who moved here or snowbird. And also like probably half the people born here. In conclusion: gently caress DeSantis.
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May 10, 2024 13:24
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LeeMajors posted:Calling it “complicated” is a calculated obfuscation to make it seem like there is some secret justification for Israel to bomb children and hospitals with US armaments. I spend more time than most saying "Death to Israel" and defending the Palestinian civilians to the zionists in my group chats. It hasn't solved the problem yet so there must be some level of complication to the issue.
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May 10, 2024 13:35
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Ether Frenzy posted:I spend more time than most saying "Death to Israel" and defending the Palestinian civilians to the zionists in my group chats. It hasn't solved the problem yet so there must be some level of complication to the issue. If she’s so smart, then why is she intentionally misunderstanding their argument? Maybe “don’t bomb civilians” is a complicated argument to an Obama-era bureaucrat?
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May 10, 2024 13:46
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Well I'm sure Trump will do better on this issue and it's just a matter of the Dems being obstinate.
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May 10, 2024 13:48
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Happy Friday all! Oh lovely - good day for someone to randomly die on a Hill(-ary)
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May 10, 2024 13:49
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Amy Pole Her posted:Happy Friday all! Oh lovely - good day for someone to randomly die on a Hill(-ary) Yeah, gonna suggest the actual debates go elsewhere. News that Hillary is showing her whole rear end is one thing, debating the complexities of the whole situation isn’t something I want to scroll through here. Thank gently caress it’s Friday and the toddler - who had one day back at daycare after vacation and spouted a fever - appears to be back to normal. She did crack her nose on the crib in her sleep last night, which was fun.
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May 10, 2024 13:51
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I’m not sure there’s a politician who has achieved such a national profile with worse political instincts than Hillary.
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May 10, 2024 13:54
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Ted Cruz flying to Cancun was pretty solid.
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May 10, 2024 13:55
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harperdc posted:Yeah, gonna suggest the actual debates go elsewhere. News that Hillary is showing her whole rear end is one thing, debating the complexities of the whole situation isn’t something I want to scroll through here. my toddie picked up the novel I am reading and goes "I want to learn about Sanguinius." I shed a tear, thinking about how he was the best of us, and said no this book is extremely rated R and any single paragraph will give you nightmares.
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Would  be cool enough to have a cameo in some summer action comic book movie?https://i.imgur.com/YVsxb6B.mp4 Every time I see Patrick Leahy in The Dark Knight I have a little chuckle.
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Ether Frenzy posted:Ted Cruz flying to Cancun was pretty solid. Even Ted Cruz would’ve campaigned in Wisconsin.
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May 10, 2024 14:06
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Ether Frenzy posted:Ted Cruz flying to Cancun was pretty solid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoBVhj1rj1A
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May 10, 2024 14:08
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Android Apocalypse posted:Would she's too busy appearing in countless slobbering fluff documentaries and television series, her reward for being a corporate stooge her entire life.
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May 10, 2024 14:11
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Capital has far too much power over the way policy is made, in both parties. It's why nothing can ever change, not because of individual apathy or incompetence. Although the republicans will probably take that as a challenge.
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You do not, in fact, gotta hand it to her
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Ether Frenzy posted:Capital has far too much power over the way policy is made, in both parties. It's why nothing can ever change, not because of individual apathy or incompetence. Although the republicans will probably take that as a challenge. Agreed. T-Square posted:You do not, in fact, gotta hand it to her Hillary is a funny case because I mostly find myself defending her from weird misogynist chuds but I also hate her because she’s a dumb smug centrist and a bad politician. I guess those are My Two Wolves.
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LeeMajors posted:Hillary is a funny case because I mostly find myself defending her from weird misogynist chuds but I also hate her because she’s a dumb smug centrist and a bad politician. Agreed. Ether Frenzy fucked around with this message at 14:25 on May 10, 2024 |
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Hillary Clinton knows the American public wants to be told they're unable to make better things happen then give a fiery speech behind closed doors for Raytheon execs
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like i know that 68 and the rise of nixon was very traumatizing to the american left, especially the next generation of grads from elite schools with connections who were being groomed for leadership positions. but good god imagine thinking that leftist political action failed and thinking the alternative was to join corporations. like what the gently caress was the reasoning behind that? "Let's give up direct action and organization and political organizing and win hearts and minds in the boardroom baby awoo (wolf howl)" Thank you Hillary for making sure little girls can grow up and sit on boards at Northrop Grumman JUST <clap> LIKE <clap> THE <clap> BOYS <clap>
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She was a Goldwater Girl wasn’t she? Lollmao
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The reasoning was the election of Reagan and the subsequent decade of the rise of capitalism (the pump part of the scam of supply-side economics). It broke a lot of that generation.
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LeeMajors posted:She was a Goldwater Girl wasn’t she? Lollmao Tbh I kinda give her a pass on that since she was a kid and I also had lovely politics at that age because at that point it’s largely a product of your upbringing. But also, she could have stopped being lovely at some point if she wanted to.
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Ether Frenzy posted:The reasoning was the election of Reagan and the subsequent decade of the rise of capitalism (the pump part of the scam of supply-side economics). It broke a lot of that generation. I was talking about the rise of corporatism in the response to 68, not the hard shift right and abandonment of labor in the aftermath of Reagan. Perlstein goes into great detail about this in Nixonland. Chicago in 68 completely changed how professors and young students saw political activism. Also corporate gigs started paying a poo poo ton more than civil service. This was right about the time they began changing compensation structures for executives and whelp here we are.
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FizFashizzle posted:I was talking about the rise of corporatism in the response to 68, not the hard shift right and abandonment of labor in the aftermath of Reagan. I really should read Nixonland. It's been sitting on my bookshelf next to Bubbleball and Chronicles of the Black Company. I suck at reading things these days. 
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3 DONG HORSE posted:I really should read Nixonland. It's been sitting on my bookshelf next to Bubbleball and Chronicles of the Black Company. I suck at reading things these days. Same. Before the Storm is collecting dust on my shelf right now (with many others) but the time escapes me these days.
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Air Skwirl posted:Do I take a perverse glee in knowing she had a life long goal crushed by one of the most embarrassing to lose to of all time, 100% I don't have the energy to add to politicschat right now, but sometimes when I am sad I will remind myself that my really lovely roommate from one semester of college worked on the Hillary 2016 campaign, and have a little chuckle over it. It's important to find the silver linings in life.
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I'm doing Disneyland solo today. Praying for my feet 🙏
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