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MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

Infidel Castro posted:

The main issue is the mana bases in early precons were hot trash, even compared to more recent ones.

That's not the only issue with the Edgar Precon - the curve is super high (of the 26 creatures, there are 0 1 drops, 2 2 drops, 9 3 drops and 3 4 drops; nearly half your creatures can't come down until after Edgar, which is really not what you want to be doing with this deck) and it has some bizarre includes for high curve/buff your dudes decks like Fell the Mighty, a tiny lifegain subtheme with no particular payoffs and Curse of Disturbance for some reason, which makes everyone 2/2 zombies

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disaster pastor
May 1, 2007


MrL_JaKiri posted:

the curve is super high (of the 26 creatures, there are 0 1 drops, 2 2 drops, 9 3 drops and 3 4 drops; nearly half your creatures can't come down until after Edgar, which is really not what you want to be doing with this deck)

Well, thanks to the trash mana base, 20 of the 37 lands come in tapped and three of those 20 are bouncelands, so it's not like you're doing anything but (re)playing tapped lands turns 1–4 anyway!

GreenBuckanneer
Sep 15, 2007

What does Survivor's Med Kit mean by "choose one that hasn't been chosen"?

I assume it's one per turn but what happens after all have been chosen???

Toshimo
Aug 23, 2012

He's outta line...

But he's right!

GreenBuckanneer posted:

What does Survivor's Med Kit mean by "choose one that hasn't been chosen"?

I assume it's one per turn but what happens after all have been chosen???

No. It plays as written. It can only do each thing 1 time. The bottom one sacrifices it, so unless you have something preventing that sacrifice, it goes to the graveyard and thats it. If you prevent the sacrifice, it stays in play and does nothing.

Dr. Stab
Sep 12, 2010
👨🏻‍⚕️🩺🔪🙀😱🙀

GreenBuckanneer posted:

What does Survivor's Med Kit mean by "choose one that hasn't been chosen"?

I assume it's one per turn but what happens after all have been chosen???

It will get usually get sacrificed by the third option before you run out. If something happens that prevents that, activating the ability won't do anything.
It remembers what modes have been chosen for as long as it's on the battlefield.

Framboise
Sep 21, 2014

To make yourself feel better, you make it so you'll never give in to your forevers and live for always.


Lipstick Apathy
If you've got a way to flicker it, you can repeat stuff since it's treated like a new artifact though!

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

Lately, I've been having fun playing my old Riku deck against people who I suspect aren't packing a whole lot of interaction. I managed to clone someone's Goldspan Dragon with Dack's Duplicate and make a copy with Riku. The following turn, I had enough mana with the treasures I created to cast a Rite of Replication kicked on my Dack's Duplicate-turned-dragon and fork that with Riku, making me an obscene amount of dragons. After attacking, I used my treasures to cast Eternal Witness to get back the Rite of Replication and did it again, lol

Silhouette
Nov 16, 2002

SONIC BOOM!!!

That post is basically Commander.txt and I love it

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

Some MH3 leaks that might interest the thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1cpxydh/mh3_white_orchid_phantom/
https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1cpxyyz/mh3_ashling_flame_dancer/
https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1cpxz0e/mh3_powerbalance/ <--Red's take on Counterbalance
https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1cpxz40/mh3_abstruse_appropriation/
https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1cpxz7h/mh3_rosheen_roaring_prophet/
https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1cpxz98/mh3_amphibian_downpour/
https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1cpxzaw/mh3_wrath_of_the_skies/
https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1cpyk6e/m3c_cayth_famed_mechanist/

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
I only clicked Powerbalance and that is a really fun concept, I wish it were coming to standard but it would also just be cool in a casino commander deck. I

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

MH3 Leak:

Six of Wren and Six - https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1cqqish/mh3_six/
The White flare - https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1cqwjuh/mh3_flare_of_fortitude/

MH3 Official Spoiler:

An odd addition to an already complete cycle - https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1cr1j7v/mh3_devourer_of_destiny_limits_story_article/

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
A lot of these MH3 cards seem like big problems

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

Spanish Manlove posted:

A lot of these MH3 cards seem like big problems

This post is excellent bait for the contrarians.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
The new abzan dude that's field of the dead in the command zone that also gives your lands dredge in the graveyard. That's my poo poo but feels like it's designed for commander and not modern

Toshimo
Aug 23, 2012

He's outta line...

But he's right!
Oh no! They printed an extremely medium card! What a ~~problem~~~!?!

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Batterypowered7 posted:

This post is excellent bait for the contrarians.

55 minutes.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

Aphrodite posted:

55 minutes.

lol

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

Pull me out

Aphrodite posted:

55 minutes.

lol

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

ドーナツダメ!
There's way too much good poo poo in that set. The White Flare might replace Teferi's Protection in some decks. Maybe. Or just played along side it.

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

Aphrodite posted:

55 minutes.

Honestly longer than I expected.

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

AlternateNu posted:

There's way too much good poo poo in that set. The White Flare might replace Teferi's Protection in some decks. Maybe. Or just played along side it.

Probably not. It only lasts until end of turn (the life loss prevention) and it doesn't help against something like Cyclonic Rift, Farewell, or even Final Showdown. I think I'd rather run Clever Concealment.

E:

You did also say "played along side it". I can totally see people doing that.

Batterypowered7 fucked around with this message at 22:53 on May 13, 2024

orangelex44
Oct 11, 2012

Definition of orange:

Any of a group of colors that are between red and yellow in hue. Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Old Occitan, from Arabic, from Persian, from Sanskrit.

Definition of lex:

Law. Latin.
Flare of Fortitude is a sidegrade. A very attractive sidegrade, to be sure, but I think the "white anti-boardwipe" rankings still start with Teferi's Protection at the top, then Clever Concealment, then all the rest. What FoF will do is finish off Flawless Maneuver as anything but a thematic inclusion to a deck. FM was borderline at best already - at this point being free isn't enough to justify being limited to indestructability.

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

Flare just goes into all of the decks that already want Teferi's Protection and now you have more protection for your stuff and against combos. It's good.

Six could be cute in Gitrog or similar decks, definitely requires testing

Silhouette
Nov 16, 2002

SONIC BOOM!!!

Six slots into Muldrotha immediately as a backup commander on the same gameplan, and it even synergizes with Muldrotha when she's on the table by pitching lands to cast permanents from the yard that Muldrotha can then play from the yard. Card's kinda sweet imo

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

Silhouette posted:

Six slots into Muldrotha immediately as a backup commander on the same gameplan, and it even synergizes with Muldrotha when she's on the table by pitching lands to cast permanents from the yard that Muldrotha can then play from the yard. Card's kinda sweet imo

What are you talking about?

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

Spanish Manlove posted:

What are you talking about?

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
ohh, I read "six slots into muldrotha" like you were making muldrotha, and not SIX the singular title

Silhouette
Nov 16, 2002

SONIC BOOM!!!

Six being the cards name is dumb, it should have a subtitle at least

Six, Wrenn's Old Ride

Six, Basically Pants

Six, I Guess It's Not Just A Tree?

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Their name is And Six, weird to drop their first name

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
Name Sticker Six

Framboise
Sep 21, 2014

To make yourself feel better, you make it so you'll never give in to your forevers and live for always.


Lipstick Apathy
Since I am dumb and unwise with money, I got in on the Miku SL (and it's already sold out now, this limited stock system sucks major rear end) because I really liked the art for Feather, the Redeemed. Since I've been off Magic for a while and only following it now and then, I feel like I've gotten rusty at building decks, and I want to put this dumb overpriced card to use.

Feather's pretty straightforward, but I'm having a hard time figuring out which instants and sorceries to focus on using and what other sorts of payoffs I should be packing into the deck. Like, I figured stuff that pings people whenever I cast spells would be cool, but should I be focusing more on drawing cards? Pumping Feather and going straight to the face? I dunno.

It's a bit out of my wheelhouse because I'm used to building cEDH decks and this is going to probably be mid-power at best, which means I can't just slot in good packages of red and white cards and fast mana and have half the deck built right there. I also like to build decks with alternate commander options in mind, which doesn't really seem to fit as easily here because there aren't many other red-white commanders that care about casting instants and sorceries. There's that new Taii Wakeen card, but that doesn't really benefit much from pump spells or spells that target my own stuff. That's about it, really. (Honestly, Taii Wakeen sounds like the more fun deck. Might build that too...)

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!
Targeted protection and cantrips are a good base set of instants to use, then you can use pingers or stuff like Monastery Mentor to deal damage directly/by going wide respectively

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

Framboise posted:

Since I am dumb and unwise with money, I got in on the Miku SL (and it's already sold out now, this limited stock system sucks major rear end) because I really liked the art for Feather, the Redeemed. Since I've been off Magic for a while and only following it now and then, I feel like I've gotten rusty at building decks, and I want to put this dumb overpriced card to use.

Feather's pretty straightforward, but I'm having a hard time figuring out which instants and sorceries to focus on using and what other sorts of payoffs I should be packing into the deck. Like, I figured stuff that pings people whenever I cast spells would be cool, but should I be focusing more on drawing cards? Pumping Feather and going straight to the face? I dunno.

It's a bit out of my wheelhouse because I'm used to building cEDH decks and this is going to probably be mid-power at best, which means I can't just slot in good packages of red and white cards and fast mana and have half the deck built right there. I also like to build decks with alternate commander options in mind, which doesn't really seem to fit as easily here because there aren't many other red-white commanders that care about casting instants and sorceries. There's that new Taii Wakeen card, but that doesn't really benefit much from pump spells or spells that target my own stuff. That's about it, really. (Honestly, Taii Wakeen sounds like the more fun deck. Might build that too...)

A smart table's not going to let her stick around so be prepared to pack some cheap protection like Blacksmith's Skill. Angelfire Ignition seems like a good Sorcery. Look for cheap Instants that cantrip like Expedite. Try to fit in Zada, Hedron Grinder as well as some creatures with the Heroic keyword. Aurelia's Fury seems like a cute, repeatable way to get blockers out of the way.

E:

MH3 Leak:

https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1crgn1h/mh3_wheel_of_potential/

It's a terrible wheel.

E2:

Still a leak, but cat lovers rejoice.

https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1cr7mq0/mh3_ocelot_pride/

Batterypowered7 fucked around with this message at 16:33 on May 14, 2024

Silhouette
Nov 16, 2002

SONIC BOOM!!!

Feather should have at least a dozen one mana protection spells(this includes flicker/blink spells), a shitload of cantrips, some spell multiplier effects and creatures that care about spellcasting (prowess/magecraft/generic pump on cast/token creation on cast etc)

Fill the rest of your slots with utility cards, rocks and removal and you're good to go. Your curve should top out at 3, basically.

Lieutenant Centaur
Oct 17, 2010

A soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon
Nelly Borca is a fun rear end commander and I love her

Thanks for listening to my Ted Talk

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

MH3 Leak:

https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1csyfzj/mh3_eladamri_korveedal/

Framboise
Sep 21, 2014

To make yourself feel better, you make it so you'll never give in to your forevers and live for always.


Lipstick Apathy
That's kinda cool.

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

Framboise posted:

That's kinda cool.

If you go down into the comments you see a cool bit of lore about the card art and effect and the card art for Belbe's Portal.

Silhouette
Nov 16, 2002

SONIC BOOM!!!

I'm kinda hoping for Tsabo's Web to get into modern

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Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!
If anyone thinks they'll be interested in the MH3 commander decks, TCGplayer has the set of 4 on sale for $200 with 10% store credit back today.

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