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There's always a fine touch devs can add with making games more intuitive but at some point your player just refuses to read and can be left to suffer in silence for it. 5/5 basic skills is a refusal to look at the numbers on new skill tooltips. Do I want to deal 110% weapon damage or 500%??? I'll admit I vaguely considered the usefulness of having two basic skills. On my first character. Melee and Ranged options on a rogue. And then I just realized they're not balanced well and everybody just takes the same dagger toss or whatever.
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# ? May 10, 2024 15:54 |
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# ? May 28, 2024 00:20 |
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I think it’s entirely on blizzard to tutorialize better, there are millions who play league of legends and they can figure out how to teach people to buy certain items. Even launch D3 had a better system with the locked buttons.
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# ? May 10, 2024 16:04 |
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They are probably going to wait until they have figured out this game’s main systems before they put tutorials in
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# ? May 10, 2024 16:05 |
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At some point not everything needs to be made for lowest common denominator
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# ? May 10, 2024 16:07 |
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it is wild that out of all the skills in the game a good 20% are basics that you mostly don't want to use (arc lash feels like one notable exception due to CDR) 22 basics out of 114 skills!
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# ? May 10, 2024 16:10 |
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i know there are dads out there playing 15 minutes after bedtime every other night but the builder/spender mechanics seem pretty straightforward and there's a big animation when you unlock the next level down and the cool stuff is almost always lower down in skill trees. Do we need mobile game style tutorials where it locks you into 15 minutes of rigid "now equip bone spear to kill satan's cousin" gameplay?
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# ? May 10, 2024 16:18 |
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Cerepol posted:it is wild that out of all the skills in the game a good 20% are basics that you mostly don't want to use (arc lash feels like one notable exception due to CDR)
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# ? May 10, 2024 16:20 |
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I think people also forget that there are literal children who play video games and not everyone you run into is a 30/40-something with Diablo nestalga. Some people are bad, it's fine.
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# ? May 10, 2024 16:35 |
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I have seen kids play video games. They aren’t playing Diablo on a PC . I don’t know if this out for consoles yet
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Internet Explorer posted:I think people also forget that there are literal children who play video games and not everyone you run into is a 30/40-something with Diablo nestalga. Some people are bad, it's fine. Actually you have to be 17 or older to play Diablo IV as the ESRB has rated it M (Mature) for Blood and Gore, Intense Violence, and Language.
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# ? May 10, 2024 16:37 |
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euphronius posted:I have seen kids play video games. They aren’t playing Diablo on a PC . I don’t know if this out for consoles yet I, on the other hand, have seen kids play video games that include D4. And I also know that it is indeed on consoles. Kaysette posted:Actually you have to be 17 or older to play Diablo IV as the ESRB has rated it M (Mature) for Blood and Gore, Intense Violence, and Language.
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# ? May 10, 2024 16:37 |
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I'm afraid to report that most kids are utter scrubs who play zero effort Roblox horror games on their phones. Shameful "gamers" that I could effortlessly annihilate in any remotely competitive endeavor. They disgust me.
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# ? May 10, 2024 16:38 |
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I cannot aim with controllers like they can for sure That is one advantage they have
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# ? May 10, 2024 16:39 |
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If you haven't tried playing a recent gen shooter with a controller you may be surprised. They've really gotten it figured out in the last few years, whether it's crosshair movement or aim assist I don't know. Case in point: I bought fallout 3 on Xbox 360 once and couldn't hit the broad side of a Pentagon at 15 yards without VATS. Cut forward to now - my kid convinced me to play a few rounds of Fortnite on the Series X, and I found myself popping pubbies in the head with relative ease.
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# ? May 10, 2024 17:22 |
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I was better at video games as a child than I am now as a 39 year old. Today I am a complete and utter moron, an absolute idiot, just completely incapable of success. That said, I have no problems getting through Diablo IV each season and at a minimum have completed the battle pass each season.
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# ? May 10, 2024 17:26 |
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I pretty much only play games with a controller now. Unless it’s like Rimworld or Stellaris or something but even Rimworld has controller support.
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# ? May 10, 2024 17:27 |
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:What does this mean for non ~~maximum optimization~~ players though? My very good S2 Barb that could do NMD 95+ pretty regularly without dying couldnt beat AoZ difficulty 1. Part of the problem was that I had so many abilities that not all of my modifiers appeared over my skill bar, so I couldnt time my overpowers because the thing that popped up in that bar to tell me how many weapon swaps I was doing just didnt fit, but part of the problem was that by that point the game was rocket tag and either I one-shot the bosses or died. Pit T1 has level 100 mobs. They increase in level for each tier 1 for 1 up to T100, where they are level 199. After that the scaling changes to something non-level based that we don't know the exact details of yet. There are three tiers of Masterworking mats, and to get the final tier you need to be able to clear a T60 pit, which will have enemies 5 levels higher than a NMD100. Higher Pit tiers just get you more materials That's pretty much what we know currently
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# ? May 10, 2024 17:28 |
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Fortnite has aim assist ??? Things are becoming clearer now. Thank you
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# ? May 10, 2024 17:31 |
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euphronius posted:Fortnite has aim assist ??? Lmao it has hella aim assist. It’s cool as hell though
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# ? May 10, 2024 17:34 |
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:It would sure be great if they were actually worth a drat. Instead of the damage being largely irrelevant but they are useful only because they generate <resource>. I would not have a problem with basic attacks being forced on almost all builds if they were fun to use, or at least didn't feel like poo poo most of the time. The only basic attack I can think of that does that is Frenzy, which is never the basic you want to use as Barb anyways.
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# ? May 10, 2024 17:35 |
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exquisite tea posted:I'm afraid to report that most kids are utter scrubs who play zero effort Roblox horror games on their phones. Shameful "gamers" that I could effortlessly annihilate in any remotely competitive endeavor. They disgust me. same except I kill them in cod and get to hear them on death mics and feed on their souls I'll probably live forever
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# ? May 10, 2024 18:02 |
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Tarnop posted:Pit T1 has level 100 mobs. They increase in level for each tier 1 for 1 up to T100, where they are level 199. After that the scaling changes to something non-level based that we don't know the exact details of yet. Orange Crush Rush posted:I would not have a problem with basic attacks being forced on almost all builds if they were fun to use, or at least didn't feel like poo poo most of the time. edit: Oh and I guess Bash on Barbs is neat too because it triggers stun every 4th hit and you can get your attack rate up really high.
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# ? May 10, 2024 18:06 |
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would now be a good time to make a new character or nah
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# ? May 10, 2024 18:23 |
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Deakul posted:would now be a good time to make a new character or nah
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# ? May 10, 2024 18:30 |
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It's wild to me how in my childhood kids would accidentally try to brute force their way through soul destroyers like old PC adventure games and the absolutely random quality control of NES/Gameboy titles or they would blind faith bugfix their way through anything the old internet could do so they could MacGuyver their way past confusing internet settings and installation nightmares to play some old rear end muds or private server mmos or some poo poo and nowadays if it isn't plug in and play with a "do my build for me" button suited for single button touch screen gameplay we have to consider if the devs did the tutorials right, lol. Also a lot of the dad gamers of today were those crazy old kids! But oh what the hell, new season in 4 days and we were due for the traditional "is D4 too hard" argument Deakul posted:would now be a good time to make a new character or nah May 14th is the new season unless you just wanna gently caress around and remember how to play the game over the weekend.
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# ? May 10, 2024 18:31 |
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If you make a new character now they’ll be kicked to the eternal realm in a couple of days. Seems like there won’t be a ton of stuff exclusive to the seasonal realm, but you’re still better off just waiting a few more days.
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# ? May 10, 2024 18:33 |
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Cerepol posted:it is wild that out of all the skills in the game a good 20% are basics that you mostly don't want to use (arc lash feels like one notable exception due to CDR) bash looks to be good in S4 which i think makes it #2! puncture gets an honorable mention as well for being so good and well rounded
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# ? May 10, 2024 18:46 |
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Getting my Diablo shrine prepped for season 4 I actually ordered another Lilith from Etsy which should be a lot nicer. This one was on sale from blizzard and it’s ok but a lot of the detail is lost in the red Edit I still think Lilith was right and Inarus is a stupid dickhead. MarcusSA fucked around with this message at 21:45 on May 10, 2024 |
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I still have a treasure goblin plush my wife got me when d3 came out, I keep crystals in his sack
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# ? May 10, 2024 21:47 |
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I actually had a decent time this patch because the cookie cutter Barb charge build felt really good wide-slamming 30+ enemies and watching gold burst out of them for 20 hours straight. I barely paid attention to what my equipment was since the whole build was just aspect driven. Farming Duriel is a massive snooze and I did none of it. I look forward to whatever build metas the next season.
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# ? May 10, 2024 22:10 |
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hawowanlawow posted:I keep crystals in his sack Whatever keeps the marriage fresh
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# ? May 10, 2024 23:13 |
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Ahh ok neat, thank you for sharing. So doing The Pit allows you to do high tiers of The Pit because it lets you enhance your weapons. Yeah, that's pretty much the deal. And also, importantly, you don't need to be able to do anything that's appreciably harder than what's currently in the game to access all levels of the crafting system
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# ? May 11, 2024 00:24 |
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MarcusSA posted:Getting my Diablo shrine prepped for season 4 I think Lilith was right and that's why I murdered her stupid rear end.
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# ? May 11, 2024 00:38 |
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Lilith and Inarius were both wrong. Mephisto was temporarily right, but will be wrong in the expansion and thus need to be killed as well.
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# ? May 11, 2024 00:53 |
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Lilith was right until the last moment when she lets it slip humans will just be her slaves
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# ? May 11, 2024 00:54 |
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If a build sucks it should suck loudly and not let anyone be confused that what they are doing is okay
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# ? May 11, 2024 01:01 |
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DM interview with Adam Jackson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCHr27Bk5VA New info: - Golem Mastery on 6 items or whatever will not be part of the live game. It's supposed to be "rare and special" - They like the idea of making more of the game activities repeatable (the question was specifically about harder repeatable versions of strongholds), but when you turn something one-shot into repeatable then players expectations of it change and that changes the design requirements. Some things will just always be one and done because that's all they were ever meant to be - Mounts that aren't horses are very likely to be coming Everything else was the usual "that sounds interesting, we've considered it/will consider it, nothing to announce" etc. It's an interesting enough watch if you enjoy reading tea-leaves based on the way that the questions get answered but as with the other two interviews it's pretty clear that they're only able to talk vaguely about a lot of the things people are interested in
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# ? May 11, 2024 01:16 |
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Inariaus was a shithead who only cared about himself and used his followers for his own ends. Lilith was a shithead who thought she knew what was best for everyone even if it meant the slaughter of innocents. They both sucked and were wrong. Mephisto is an embodiment of evil and is thus always wrong in the long term even his objectives temporarily align with the good guys. Killing Lilith and soulstone-ing Mephisto was the right course of action right up until the point where the Wanderer and Lorath shrug at the idea of the troubled one-armed teenager going off on her own with the corrupting macguffin. That was Prometheus levels of frustratingly dumb character choices.
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# ? May 11, 2024 01:44 |
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The only honest, good person is Farnham the drunk from D1
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# ? May 11, 2024 01:49 |
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Tarnop posted:DM interview with Adam Jackson I would, without a trace of shame, give them money for a Duriel mount.
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