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Also now that we have the benefit of hindsight concerning the votes on binus stagnating, I think we can agree there are two possibilities: 1. I am a stupid scum who held out a really long time only to hammer in a way that would bring a lot of tension to myself 2. All of the scum team were already on the binus vote and couldn't push it any further, meaning we should be looking at the four people who were voting before me
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Tea Party Crasher posted:Also why would that clear me for you before binus flipped, only to be reversed by binus flipping as town. Was that a scum slip from tmi ?? No you were cleared by binus flipping. I was talking about my overnight thoughts.
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May 11, 2024 16:37
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Maugrim posted:?? No you were cleared by binus flipping. I was talking about my overnight thoughts. I see, the way it was worded it came across to me as you having cleared me before, and then overnight you thought maybe that was a mistake.
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May 11, 2024 16:39
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I'm reasonably sure you're town from your posting now so that's good. Fool voting you out of the gate was odd, to be sure.
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May 11, 2024 16:40
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In the last game fool and I played together, and fool was scum, he picked me out for the night kill specifically because he knew I would tunnel him. I think this game he's taking a different approach by laying insurance suss on me early, which he is now cashing in on to get me executed that way Scum can get rid of two town and also resolve my tunneling
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May 11, 2024 16:46
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fool of sound posted:##vote tpc This vote even betrays some self-consciousness through the tact on explanation that barely amounts to a real case day three Like yes fool I am sure you were genuinely waiting with bated breath for 11 hours to see some gut reads that would immediately be forgotten by the next day
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May 11, 2024 16:51
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I think it would have been useful to know what binus was thinking after moving off Obama, yes, especially given that there was ample time and it’s not like you’re forced to f5 the thread when there’s no activity. Do something else until deadline is approaching or binus posts. What I think happened is that you were getting annoyed that nobody hammered for you after hours and hours of binus sitting at -1, and were worried about a last minute swerve as deadline approached.
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May 11, 2024 17:08
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Maug the idea that hammering clears tpc is pure wifom. It’s a bad scum move so people don’t suspect that scum will do it, making it in fact a good scum move.
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May 11, 2024 17:09
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It lets scum cash out on a misyeet and generates “too dumb for scum” cred. It’s a plausibly deniable turbo.
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May 11, 2024 17:12
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Oh it also for tpc specifically lets them decouple themself from causing the noexe on d1 wrt to binus.
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May 11, 2024 17:13
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Also lol that tpc in the same breath votes me while theorizing that the scum in contained in the first four votes on binus
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May 11, 2024 17:16
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fool of sound posted:Maug the idea that hammering clears tpc is pure wifom. It’s a bad scum move so people don’t suspect that scum will do it, making it in fact a good scum move. It's not the hammering that clears him for me, it's the reluctance to do so in conjunction with then doing so out of impatience at the thread being dead. Scum would have just waited for deadline and "reluctantly" hammered for a flip. You're making some weird cases here but apparently you two have history so I dunno if that makes you scum or two townies flailing at each other.
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May 11, 2024 17:22
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I'll reread later, want to see if my initial town read of Somber holds up. If it does I'm betting scum are all in salad / fos / cube
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May 11, 2024 17:24
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fool of sound posted:What I think happened is that you were getting annoyed that nobody hammered for you after hours and hours of binus sitting at -1, and were worried about a last minute swerve as deadline approached. Funniest thing you have ever posted, genuinely laughing out loud right now
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May 11, 2024 17:30
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Oh no What if the person that has been -1 both today and yesterday doesn't get lunched, and there's a swerve even though there's no scuttle butt to that effect and no one has posted in like 4 hours
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Votecount for Day 3  Tea Party Crasher (1): fool of sound Not Voting (6): CubicalSucrose, Maugrim, ObamaAkbar., saladscooper, Somberbrero, Tea Party CrasherWith 7 alive, it's 4 votes to execute. The current deadline is May 13th, 2024 at 9 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 2 days, 8 hours.
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May 11, 2024 17:52
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By the way scum you suck for killing YPM
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May 11, 2024 20:54
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Eh not gonna lie I felt pretty stupid this morning. Saying that I’d rather be aggressively wrong than passively right. Apologies to binus though
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May 11, 2024 21:19
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YPM was an odd kill choice that’s for sure. Surely there was someone with more town reads on them that was a better target? Somber maybe?
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May 11, 2024 21:21
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Not sure of any read right now after being so incredibly wrong yesterday. Will have to have a deep dive later to reassess
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May 11, 2024 21:29
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I was playing sport this morning and afternoon. I have finished and will be eating. Going to read and such after. TPC "too scummy to be scum?" Perhaps.
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May 11, 2024 21:40
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If it's 3 scum, today is gently caress up and lose, correct?
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May 11, 2024 21:44
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The thing is town power roles generally help route out scum while scum power roles are designed to thwart town power roles. Ergo I think an all vanilla game is more pro scum and having more than 2 in a 10 player game is unlikely. Saying that I get quite anxious as a mod when people start setup speculating in my games and say things like ‘x and y can’t be true as that is terrible game design’ because often x and y are indeed true lmao. Anyway I won’t be mad circ if there are 3 scum players left
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May 11, 2024 22:54
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ObamaAkbar. posted:Saying that I get quite anxious as a mod when people start setup speculating in my games and say things like ‘x and y can’t be true as that is terrible game design’ because often x and y are indeed true lmao. Anyway I won’t be mad circ if there are 3 scum players left Big same. Yeah obviously I was really wrong. Reevaluating my read on tpc I guess.
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It's late, Eurovision and all that, but I did some rereading. TPC and Obama get town passes from me. Fool I'm wavering on. Cube is perennially unreadable to me but is becoming my top candidate for scum just by default - fair bit of posting but little to no scum hunting. The other outside possibility I can see is a Somber/salad pairing. I know Somber doesn't like to bus as scum which makes these sort of soft nudgy posts stand out to me: Somberbrero posted:yeah i'm comfy voting binus instead of salad i think Somberbrero posted:I feel so sure the salad vote is not it. Time to sleep on it and maybe look at the vote patterns tomorrow.
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Okay, I slept. If there were 3 scum and both fos and TPC were town, scum could have rushed the vote and won by now. So if there are three scum, fos is probably one of them. I think there are most likely 2 scum. But the fact that fool didn't think of that is a small point against him. (Only a small point though, because Circl forgot to remove binus from the living players list at day open so it did look like the vote threshold was 5 rather than 4).
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Cursory look at cube hasn’t swayed me either way tbh. Saying that I found the below post interesting. Will need to do some more investigating laterCubicalSucrose posted:Grill? I had reread all 3 of sombers posts and there hadn't really been anything that stood out as materially townie, so salad throwing that at the end of their post pinged me a bit.
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Maugrim posted:Okay, I slept. Does this mean we can vote fool? 
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Looking at the current kill choices YPM and TMor were both pro eliminating salad so need to look there next I think. YPM was also floating a cube vote before being murdered.
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Hi everyone I was busy moving out and driving the past couple days but now I'm at the new place. You shouldn't kill me even though I'm lurking, and the reason why is because I'm town.
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May 12, 2024 15:46
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Gut still says there's scum in Obama/Cube/Maugrim but given that there's like only 2 that isn't really useful at all. I'm tied up all afternoon into the evening but I still have a couple hours this morning to read so I'll be doing that
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Posts of interest below:Your Personal Muse posted:For all you meta lovers out there, posting to appear helpful without pushing cases forward is scumcube.txt Your Personal Muse posted:If this was a role madness game, cube would be in the middle of theory crafting who has what roles, but in a way that did not reveal anyone’s alignment. Since this is ostensibly all vanilla (except me, I’m a day seer stump hypercharger), he’s relegated to posting votefinder over and over again YPM also floated somber, not sure how serious this suggestion was though Your Personal Muse posted:Cube and somber sitting in a tree
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I would be down to ##vote Cube
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Gotta say salad I’m pretty suspicious of on a reread, floats about all over the place early doors and then goes from defending cube like below:saladscooper posted:setting aside the verisimilitude of your claim, sir fool, what i purport to express is the folly of applying such postulates to our dominetic colleague To suddenly being pro-cube elimination: saladscooper posted:could be down for a Cube swerve though. assuming we have the votes saladscooper posted:Agreed heavily on the first and third points. Cube is one of my top priorities for a vote today, the other being binus. Still pretty sus of Obama but I think I'd like to flip one of Cube/binus first. saladscooper posted:Gut still says there's scum in Obama/Cube/Maugrim but given that there's like only 2 that isn't really useful at all. I'm tied up all afternoon into the evening but I still have a couple hours this morning to read so I'll be doing that This doesn’t feel organic to me. Hasn’t really posted a reason for wanting cube eliminated either
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i forgot why i wanted to kill him yesterday but i'm assuming i had a good reason for it
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ObamaAkbar. posted:Gotta say salad I’m pretty suspicious of on a reread, floats about all over the place early doors and then goes from defending cube like below: I feel like it's pretty normal for people's gut reeds to change TBH.
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My feelings on salad are that they could be scum, but I believe they are town because Cube and fool are higher up on the scum list for me
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I'm starting to get a more genuine town impression from Obama after the binus flip, but it could also be scum remaining active in controlling the conversation after getting their town target eliminated "unfortunately"
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May 12, 2024 17:23
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Tea Party Crasher posted:I feel like it's pretty normal for people's gut reeds to change TBH. I get that but it doesn’t feel natural
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saladscooper posted:i forgot why i wanted to kill him yesterday but i'm assuming i had a good reason for it So you don’t want to kill him anymore?
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