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Ainsley McTree
Feb 19, 2004


Man, GTA online really has it out for the Lost MC. didn't we spend an entire GTA4 DLC humanizing these guys

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namlosh
Feb 11, 2014

I name this haircut "The Sad Rhino".
I’d say the story mode put a boot through the head of that notion pretty early on


Literally

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?
It was a little weird to watch a crazy white redneck stomping the only Jewish main character to death.

Dokapon Findom
Dec 5, 2022

But have you considered whether the child murdered by the driver of that truck was riding an oversized bike?!?! Children riding oversized bikes are the scourge of our roadways!!

Pope Corky the IX posted:

It was a little weird to watch a crazy white redneck stomping the only Jewish main character to death.

Possibly deliberate choice by the creators??? :ohdear:

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."
I've been playing GTAIV here and there on the deck and that DLC doesn't so much humanize them as much as make you even more confused about why anyone would live the lovely biker life at all since Johnny spends the duration being depressed and angry that his life is that bad

Cage
Jul 17, 2003
www.revivethedrive.org

Wolfsheim posted:

I've been playing GTAIV here and there on the deck and that DLC doesn't so much humanize them as much as make you even more confused about why anyone would live the lovely biker life at all since Johnny spends the duration being depressed and angry that his life is that bad
Yeah, but at the end of the game He leaves the gang, vows to support Jims widow and kid financially, and leaves his ex for good.

mp5
Jan 1, 2005

Stroke of luck!

Yeah but then 5 sort of erases all of that and he just gets fed to Trevor

Cage
Jul 17, 2003
www.revivethedrive.org
Oh yeah I thought I edited my post to say that its a huge bummer that it was all walked back in the next game. Trevor edgy.

Ainsley McTree
Feb 19, 2004


Admittedly it's been a while since I played L&D so maybe "humanizing" was a bit strong but I just think it's funny how much the game continues to kick them in the dick in GTAO

Fooliganz: "We need to take out the lost MC, because there's only room for one drug empire in this town"

Franklin: "Our client is selling drugs and needs those losers from the lost MC out of the picture, go gently caress em up"

Sessanta: "Those disgusting, stinky, crusty, nasty bikers have meth labs all over the city and I want you to blow them up and steal their drugs. It'll be easier with a disguise, if you can stand to debase yourself long enough to wear the disgusting, gruesome, stinky, crusty, nasty jacket"

namlosh
Feb 11, 2014

I name this haircut "The Sad Rhino".
won’t someone think of the biker gangs! :)

How many antagonists are there in the game including story mode?

McCoys
Lost
Merryweather
Hippies
Cultist, both the naked mountain ones and Epsilon
Clifford
FIB
Cayo Perico dude
Duggins or whatever from the Casino
LSPD

Feel like I’m missing some but it’s definitely a pool of them with their own distinct “branding”

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

I sat through every season of Sons of Anarchy, so I now take out The Lost with extra prejudice.

"The lettuhz, Gemma... The lettuhz!!"

Ainsley McTree
Feb 19, 2004


I made it a season and a half into sons of anarchy; whichever one had henry rollins and the nazi gang rape scene and decided that this is not the show for me

I guess rockstar could have taken a worse moral stance than "biker gangs are losers" but it is a shame about johnny, they didn't need to do him like that

unrelated: I see that Superyachts are on sale this week; if, theoretically, I were to buy one, is there a best one to get? Are the missions profitable, easy, or fun? Or are they mostly just a fluff thing

Dokapon Findom
Dec 5, 2022

But have you considered whether the child murdered by the driver of that truck was riding an oversized bike?!?! Children riding oversized bikes are the scourge of our roadways!!

Ainsley McTree posted:

unrelated: I see that Superyachts are on sale this week; if, theoretically, I were to buy one, is there a best one to get? Are the missions profitable, easy, or fun? Or are they mostly just a fluff thing

I would append to this also, how long would it take to make back the initial investment at the current discount?

pointlessone
Aug 6, 2001

The Triad Frog is pleased with this custom title purchase.

Ainsley McTree posted:

unrelated: I see that Superyachts are on sale this week; if, theoretically, I were to buy one, is there a best one to get? Are the missions profitable, easy, or fun? Or are they mostly just a fluff thing

They are functionally identical

The missions are terrible pay, medium-easy, and mildly amusing.

They are entirely fluff.

Dokapon Findom posted:

I would append to this also, how long would it take to make back the initial investment at the current discount?


Otacon
Aug 13, 2002


Ainsley McTree posted:


unrelated: I see that Superyachts are on sale this week; if, theoretically, I were to buy one, is there a best one to get? Are the missions profitable, easy, or fun? Or are they mostly just a fluff thing

Pick the one in the middle. It has the best accessory vehicles (fastest boats and chopper) and provides a modicum of protection on the extremely rare event you're ever boarded by a player. The cheapest one and the most expensive one are much easier for other players to parachute in and commandeer.

The missions are good to do once for the Yacht Captain's Outfit and yacht-moving fee decrease, and never again.

Dokapon Findom posted:

I would append to this also, how long would it take to make back the initial investment at the current discount?

You don't buy a yacht to make money. Along with the unlocks above, I think you get $200k if you complete all 6 of the Superyacht Life missions. The last one is pretty rough!

mp5
Jan 1, 2005

Stroke of luck!

The Yacht is kinda funny because sometimes you can lure people chasing you to your Yacht and the anti air defenses will destroy them

(As long as you turn them on when you enter session)

It’s 100% a money sink and opens up some small missions that will award you a yacht captain hat if that’s your thing

namlosh
Feb 11, 2014

I name this haircut "The Sad Rhino".
Don’t forget that you can turn on the yacht defenses and park the kosatka right next to it and be pretty invulnerable to most things while you shoot off guided missiles

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

The yacht is absolutely a "well, I don't have anything else to buy..." sort of thing.

Dokapon Findom
Dec 5, 2022

But have you considered whether the child murdered by the driver of that truck was riding an oversized bike?!?! Children riding oversized bikes are the scourge of our roadways!!
The Nightclub really does seem like the only thing that will passively recoup its own startup capital. Not into doing missions, running swag or that sort of thing

Ainsley McTree
Feb 19, 2004


Rupert Buttermilk posted:

The yacht is absolutely a "well, I don't have anything else to buy..." sort of thing.

Yeah that was kind of what I was thinking of it as, I was going to treat myself to one as probably the last thing I do with the game before I get bored and put it away again. I was wondering if the discount made it worth accelerating that schedule but it sounds like no, I'll get the kosatka next after all.

Also i should have listened to you all about the hangar, the system is confusing and the missions aren't very fun, oops. I don't really understand the profit numbers but I'm guessing if they were good, someone, anyone would recommend getting it, so oh well, now I know. at least I can buy planes now if I want to I guess.

coupedeville
Jan 1, 2012

MY ANACONDA DOM'T WANT NONE UNLESS U GOT CUM SON!

Ainsley McTree posted:

Yeah that was kind of what I was thinking of it as, I was going to treat myself to one as probably the last thing I do with the game before I get bored and put it away again. I was wondering if the discount made it worth accelerating that schedule but it sounds like no, I'll get the kosatka next after all.

Also i should have listened to you all about the hangar, the system is confusing and the missions aren't very fun, oops. I don't really understand the profit numbers but I'm guessing if they were good, someone, anyone would recommend getting it, so oh well, now I know. at least I can buy planes now if I want to I guess.

You can fly your buzzard into your hangar and it will convert into a personal aircraft that you can change the colors on :eng101:

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

RE: Yacht stuff - in my friend group, which is my wife as well two of our friends, we all kind of ended up naturally dividing our major purchases. Like we all own the acid lab, nightclub, MC and CEO office, but only one of us has the agency, another one has the Kosatka (me!), one of us has the OpMk2, while I'm the only one with the Mk1 (:colbert:), and one of us has the yacht. There are a bunch more things that we don't all own but you get it.

Anyway, all that to say that I'm glad my friend bought the yacht, because that means that I really, really don't have to. I mean, if I end up with more money than I can spend, then sure, I'll buy it. But not a moment sooner; I got what I wanted out of it just from visiting his.

namlosh
Feb 11, 2014

I name this haircut "The Sad Rhino".
Plus the hangar missions get more profitable the more people you have sourcing, right? If you have 4 people in your org, you get 4 packages per source mission to put in your hangar to sell. This greatly speeds up the whole process and makes it quasi-good $/time
I never really did it though since finding people to run them is rough. One of the sell missions lets you drive the sky crane though so there is that

Vvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
Word… I assume people in a friend group would each own one (or some other business) and rotate helping each other

namlosh fucked around with this message at 16:09 on May 10, 2024

mp5
Jan 1, 2005

Stroke of luck!

Yes but that requires 3 other people to agree to help YOU do CHORES, solely for YOUR benefit

I’ve been playing this game for years and I don’t even see pubs try to get each other to do Air Cargo, that poo poo sucks real bad

Ainsley McTree
Feb 19, 2004


Apparently the arcade has a master computer that lets you manage/monitor all of your businesses from one place? It rules that that exists, but is bizarre that it is only attached to one property and that it’s the arcade; I’d rather it be like a phone app or some thing but you’d think that at least the terrorbyte could do it

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Ainsley McTree posted:

Apparently the arcade has a master computer that lets you manage/monitor all of your businesses from one place? It rules that that exists, but is bizarre that it is only attached to one property and that it’s the arcade; I’d rather it be like a phone app or some thing but you’d think that at least the terrorbyte could do it

For clarity, the arcade is a front for the illegal casino heist operation downstairs. There's a literal fake fortune teller cabinet that turns and opens to the staircase downstairs.

Much like how laser tag was floated MANY times by Saul in Breaking Bad as being a fantastic money laundering outfit (especially with a 'Danny'), an arcade is similarly great for that.

The master control centre goes in that part, that's all. It makes more sense in context of the entirety of GTA Online. Sure, there could be better places, like the facility and/or bunker, but the arcade isn't bad all things considered.

The one in the terrorbyte is just for sourcing.

Rupert Buttermilk fucked around with this message at 21:36 on May 14, 2024

THF13
Sep 26, 2007

Keep an adversary in the dark about what you're capable of, and he has to assume the worst.
The master control terminal in the arcade is neat, but it's dealing with some probably back end game limitations. You need to be a CEO/MC president to check your businesses, and you can't check your MC businesses while being a CEO or vice versa. You need to back out of the terminal, stand up from the terminal chain, quit/resign from your current org/MC, register as a CEO/MC, sit back down in the chair, and go back into the terminal.

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?
Unfortunately the arcade is loving terrible when it comes to a return on investment unless you do the casino heist a bunch of times. Each arcade cabinet is at least $250k and even when you fill the place you'll get maybe $5,000 a day.

mp5
Jan 1, 2005

Stroke of luck!

That’s very easy when playing on a platform that has people on it Corky

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?
You know, I thought we were friends. We went to different schools together.

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

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Heists r dum

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Pope Corky the IX posted:

Unfortunately the arcade is loving terrible when it comes to a return on investment unless you do the casino heist a bunch of times. Each arcade cabinet is at least $250k and even when you fill the place you'll get maybe $5,000 a day.

Just fyi, Arcade Paradise on Steam is essentially a legitimate version of the gta arcade, but the games are WAY better

HJE-Cobra
Jul 15, 2007

Bear Witness

Hell Gem

mp5 posted:

That’s very easy when playing on a platform that has people on it Corky

You don't need people to get the $5000/day from the arcade, it passively fills every day regardless of actual use.

Also it doesn't matter what arcade games you put in your arcade. You can just put the cheapest cabinet you can buy into every slot. It's purely based on how many machines you put in your arcade, and you can put duplicates, and some arcade machines can go in almost every slot. So just put whatever lovely game you can into every slot to maximize that $5000/day.

mp5
Jan 1, 2005

Stroke of luck!

HJE-Cobra posted:

You don't need people to get the $5000/day from the arcade, it passively fills every day regardless of actual use.

Also it doesn't matter what arcade games you put in your arcade. You can just put the cheapest cabinet you can buy into every slot. It's purely based on how many machines you put in your arcade, and you can put duplicates, and some arcade machines can go in almost every slot. So just put whatever lovely game you can into every slot to maximize that $5000/day.

I know, I was making a joke for/at Corky

Ainsley McTree
Feb 19, 2004


Rupert Buttermilk posted:

For clarity, the arcade is a front for the illegal casino heist operation downstairs. There's a literal fake fortune teller cabinet that turns and opens to the staircase downstairs.

Much like how laser tag was floated MANY times by Saul in Breaking Bad as being a fantastic money laundering outfit (especially with a 'Danny'), an arcade is similarly great for that.

The master control centre goes in that part, that's all. It makes more sense in context of the entirety of GTA Online. Sure, there could be better places, like the facility and/or bunker, but the arcade isn't bad all things considered.

The one in the terrorbyte is just for sourcing.

Yeah, I can see where it makes a certain amount of sense, it's just kind of funny to come to the game late and see exactly where they chose to install this good convenient idea that I've been wishing for and didn't even know existed until now. I get that the arcade's a secret crime lair, it's just kind of funny that they put the "check on all of your businesses" computer in a building where none of your businesses live. Put it in the CEO office or something, then I'd have a reason to ever go back there

mp5
Jan 1, 2005

Stroke of luck!

Ainsley McTree posted:

Yeah, I can see where it makes a certain amount of sense, it's just kind of funny to come to the game late and see exactly where they chose to install this good convenient idea that I've been wishing for and didn't even know existed until now. I get that the arcade's a secret crime lair, it's just kind of funny that they put the "check on all of your businesses" computer in a building where none of your businesses live. Put it in the CEO office or something, then I'd have a reason to ever go back there

Making new content is easier than modifying old content from a development standpoint.

Scorched Spitz
Dec 12, 2011
Is that why they added a dozen Ballers to the game?

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

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Also they're making a bunch of car models for gta6 so they might as well milk the current game while they can.

Dokapon Findom
Dec 5, 2022

But have you considered whether the child murdered by the driver of that truck was riding an oversized bike?!?! Children riding oversized bikes are the scourge of our roadways!!
Gotta get the Agency (which is distinct from your Office!) so you can manage your Auto Shop which is different from your Vehicle Warehouse (which is not at all like your regular Warehouse and definitely not the same as your Salvage Yard!) all from the comfort of your Facility, making sure to periodically check on your Bunker, Clubhouse, and whatever other properties you get a call every time you log in telling you you needed to buy. I wonder how much playing it would take to recoup the initial investment in these properties relative to when the fun starts? If time is money then the cards are the best investment you can make.

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Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

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Dokapon Findom posted:

when the fun starts

I'm sorry I don't understand what you mean here, what's that word mean? Did you mean "frustration" because that starts right away.

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