|
poor waif posted:Is anything known about the shooter? I saw he was detained, but I haven't seen anything more yet. not yet
|
#
?
May 15, 2024 14:35
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 8, 2024 00:07 |
|
|
Szarrukin posted:Apparently there has been assassination attempt on Slovakia prime minister Ninjas assassinating slovak politicians, got it.
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2024 14:38
|
|
|
how tragic
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2024 14:42
|
|
|
I hope he won't have to deal with a lifetime of the Bolsonaro syndrome, that would be awful
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2024 14:44
|
|
|
First reports of chest and head injuries. Reuters says 4 shots, with one hitting the abdomen.
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2024 14:47
|
|
|
Szarrukin posted:Apparently there has been assassination attempt on Slovakia prime minister I thought ninjas used sneakier approaches than that
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2024 14:53
|
|
|
They're saying Fico's life is in danger and he's being transported to Banska Bystrica official facebook post. Apparently the perp was a 71 year old man.
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2024 15:11
|
|
|
I wonder who is going to get blamed for this. Islamists? (((globalists)))? The gays?
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2024 15:22
|
|
|
a pipe smoking dog posted:I wonder who is going to get blamed for this. Islamists? (((globalists)))? The gays? coalition parties are already blaming opposition, independent media, liberals, progressives and so on
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2024 15:25
|
|
|
a pipe smoking dog posted:I wonder who is going to get blamed for this. Islamists? (((globalists)))? The gays? Communists, leftists and European Union. No, it doesn't make any sense.
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2024 15:27
|
|
|
This sucks, and there is basically no way that it won't end badly. 
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2024 15:34
|
|
|
Yeah, this sucks.
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2024 15:38
|
|
|
This septuagenarian kills facists
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2024 15:42
|
|
|
advanced statsman posted:They're saying Fico's life is in danger and he's being transported to Banska Bystrica official facebook post. Apparently the perp was a 71 year old man. That would be born in 1953, just the right age to have been active during the Prague Spring. I'm only speculating but it wouldn't be too far fetched if in a senile mind the events of the recent years had awakened old traumas and he was resisting Warsaw Pact occupation again. Or at least I would offer that to the judge if I was his attorney.
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2024 15:45
|
|
|
Nenonen posted:That would be born in 1953, just the right age to have been active during the Prague Spring. I'm only speculating but it wouldn't be too far fetched if in a senile mind the events of the recent years had awakened old traumas and he was resisting Warsaw Pact occupation again. Or at least I would offer that to the judge if I was his attorney. I love how people constantly write this kind of fanfiction based on the most frivolous of details.
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2024 16:01
|
|
|
Mokotow posted:Yeah, this sucks. It really does.
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2024 16:11
|
|
|
Rumour going around that the guy has been identified and was the founder of a fringe political movement whose primary policies were promoting non-violence and Roma hatred. So shooting Fico seems a counter-intuative way to achieving either of those goals.
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2024 17:31
|
|
|
That's also a very interesting pairing of beliefs, usually I expect violence to go together with racism.
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2024 17:44
|
|
|
You can implicitly add "and also Roma hatred" to any political ideology and movement in the region. Promoting humane treatment of animals... and also Roma hatred, etc
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2024 17:49
|
|
|
Is Roma hatred considered a fringe belief nowadays? Slovakia is so much more progressive than many other European nations. Unless it's only that when connected to nonviolence... e: beaten by stein
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2024 17:51
|
|
|
Nenonen posted:Slovakia is so much more progressive than many other European nations. what if you compare it to Russia or Belarus, I guess
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2024 17:57
|
|
|
Nenonen posted:Slovakia is so much more progressive than many other European nations. Are you loving insane?
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2024 18:19
|
|
|
goblin week posted:Are you loving insane? That's kind of a personal question, don't you think?
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2024 18:22
|
|
|
Leave it to goons not to get an obvious joke.steinrokkan posted:You can implicitly add "and also Roma hatred" to any political ideology and movement in the region. Promoting humane treatment of animals... and also Roma hatred, etc 
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2024 20:28
|
|
|
The shooter was apparently a poet and founder of a local book club. Well that explains, poets are always sus. Time to ban that filth.
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2024 21:39
|
|
|
A large market hall burned down in Warsaw a few days ago, leaving several hundred people, mostly Vietnamese, in dire straights. Rumor has it that another large commercial building was also about to be burned down, but the incendiary devices failed to go off and now the hunt is on for a diversion group. It’s being reported by a journalist source - a podcast from RadioZet - but very few other details are available. Also a lot of border fuckery lately, mostly around Królewiec on the Lithuanian side and on the Narva river between Estonia and Russia. Fun times!
|
|
#
?
May 24, 2024 21:19
|
|
|
My friends in Canada are hearing about it, and that Pilish and Western countries believe this was done using local assholes but planned and financed by GRU. This basically makes Russia an actual terrorist state. Although my Canadian friend suggests that it's not actually terrorism so much as just being bad people, them seeing us as enemies and therefore our civilian property and infrastructure as legitimate targets even without a state of total war. Simply, they dislike us, this hurts us. Not sure which interpretation is worse. Although at least, unless the goal is to ironically lower purchase perception of their immediate threat, paying for malls to burn down means that they're not actively tormenting mass murder through bombs and chemicals let alone preparing to march troops across the border.
|
|
#
?
May 25, 2024 10:19
|
|
|
Russia has been committing actual terrorism throughout Europe for years, this changes nothing. But don't touch their assets though, that would be bad!
|
|
#
?
May 25, 2024 10:24
|
|
|
<other threadishly> it's a small price to pay for avoiding nuclear annihilation
|
|
#
?
May 25, 2024 11:27
|
|
|
I'm sorry, is the base motivation of most if not all terrorists not "they dislike x and want to hurt them"? Seems like a distinction without a difference to me.
|
|
#
?
May 25, 2024 11:41
|
|
|
Regardless of legitimacy (every terrorist organization acts rationally against a legitimate target from their point of reference) Russian attacks in the West do not seriously destroy the ability of their enemies to prosecute war. Blowing up random pieces of infrastructure on this scale doesn't affect the military or logistical capability of a state. And so their only effect is causing fear to affect political outcomes, the definition of terrorism. The same is true about their scattered attacks on infrastructure in Ukraine itself - a fair-play attack in war requires credibility to actually achieve a military goal, if the attacker strikes knowing he can't achieve the stated military goal under any circumstances, it's generally not considered a legal / valid military operation but rather a war crime.
|
|
#
?
May 25, 2024 12:00
|
|
|
Regardless of what you feel about how the West may have provoked through NATO expansion, and how we're competing for influence around the world... ultimately ultimately this is a possibly world-ending struggle between one side that is going "Hey we just want to be left alone and do democracy (with some backsliding) and improving our human rights and stuff" and another side going "No we hate you and you are our enemies and your gay feminine secular culture will destroy us somehow if we let it go unchecked and we want to be a huge empire and feared by everyone". It's not going back to the Cold War at this point. It's skipping backwards through early 20th Century to the wars of religion and Greek city states waging total war due to grudges from a hundred years prior or simply seeing the other as natural enemies. Bright Bart fucked around with this message at 19:22 on May 26, 2024 |
|
#
?
May 26, 2024 10:50
|
|
|
400 km of land mines and anti-air positions are to be established by NATO at the Polish borders with Russia and White Russia. Also, it seems a Polish official reported to news media that he has assurances from the US that they would attack Russia itself (not just invading Russian forces) if Putin used a nuclear weapon in Poland or where the fallout from a strike in Ukraine reaches Poland. Now, this could mean many things. The official didn't specify if this guarantee is to attack Russia as in declare war and send troops for a conventional counter-attack, or launch a nuclear missile in turn. More importantly we don't know where this guarantee is coming from. Is it the Chiefs of Staff? Or some general who claims "Oh for sure. For sure. We'd give Russia a what's for. We'll hit Russia hard and fast." Finally, in almost all cases the POTUS has to clear a nuclear strike. There seem to be very few ways around this other than declaring him incompetent, as far as I am aware. And I'm not entirely sure the White House doctor would find it easy on his conscious to declare that a reluctance to risk ending all human life on Earth counts as not being in their right mind. But if we take the guarantee at face value, we should appreciate the deterrence value if the Russians believe it or at least don't 100% believe the announcement is a bluff. But we should also be ambivalent to learn that our (as in mine and those of the Polish posters here) lives, and their loss, would be the cause to end the lives of at least a billion people. Maybe lots more. I'm not sure what the current strategic thinking is. If should the US and Russia understand that plausibly their entire population is about to die in less than an hour, do they just attack the actual enemy or also the allies of their enemy. Or do they call it a day and lights out for H. sapiens sapiens. Bright Bart fucked around with this message at 23:35 on May 29, 2024 |
|
#
?
May 29, 2024 17:09
|
|
|
I'm not really quite sure that one unnamed official's pinky swear that his uncle at Pentagon has promised to avenge any first strike on Poland is meaningful or worth thinking much about. If Russia was to use nuclear weapons anywhere, Poland or otherwise, that would be a pretty big escalation and would elicit a response. Whether this would inevitably cascade into MAD is impossible to say. I don't think the doctrine is to toss nukes aimlessly around, though. You don't  Now since NATO could operate nuclear capable aircraft from a multitude of countries, those nations would also be on the list, but it would still be specific targets (based on what Russian military intelligence thinks is a threat, so maybe Legoland is not safe after all).
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2024 21:46
|
|
|
Bright Bart posted:Finally, in almost all cases the POTUS has to clear a nuclear strike. There seem to be very few ways around this other than declaring him incompetent, as far as I am aware. Yeah imagine that
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2024 22:25
|
|
|
Thanks guys. Maybe I should feel silly for making my post, but I don't regret posting it. That's really good information on a "limited" total war as opposed to MAD glassing the planet. We ultimately can't know, in a world where at least one side but maybe both see each and every civilian on the other side as an enemy responsible for what is about to happen in an hour or less, whether the publicly available list of targets would be actualized or whether at least some countries would see their whole population suffer what is hard to imagine.
Bright Bart fucked around with this message at 22:10 on May 30, 2024 |
|
#
?
May 30, 2024 08:35
|
|
|
Is it storming where everyone is? Where I'm at we've been getting push notifications that a storm is imminent within the next hour and that we need to take shelter indoors. But then it's just some wind and moderate rain. Then in 8-12 hours it's the same warning. This recent one from an hour ago looks like it's passed without much fanfare. I'm not saying the meteorologists are incompetent and we can ignore these warnings. I realize that a storm may very well come at some point. I'm just saying it's funny and something I haven't seen before either in Poland or anywhere else I've lived.
|
|
#
?
May 30, 2024 18:50
|
|
|
What's the specific warning? It might not matter to you, but it might matter to someone who is planning to go fishing on a boat or work on a rooftop or something because storms can develop quite suddenly. Also it could just be that you're at the eye of the storm 
|
|
#
?
May 30, 2024 19:01
|
|
|
I drove 400km across Poland today, east to west, and went through 7 storms. It was just that kind of day, they were all over the place, though I have to say I think RCB is a bit too trigger-happy with the storm alert system. I mean, one dude died today and that was because he jumped of a yacht and drowned after the wind blew his hat off.
|
|
#
?
May 30, 2024 19:37
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 8, 2024 00:07 |
|
|
Bright Bart posted:Thanks guys. Maybe I should feel silly for making my post, but I don't regret posting it. That's really good information on a "limited" total war as opposed to MAD glassing the planet. We ultimately can't know, in a world where at least one side but maybe both see each and every civilian on the other side as an enemy's responsible for what is about to happen in an hour or less, whether the publically available list of targets would be actualized or whether at least some countries would see their whole population suffer what is hard to imagine. You might want to check out the other eastern europe thread though! :P
|
|
#
?
May 30, 2024 19:47
|
|