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Groovelord Neato posted:Dedicated servers were better and I say that as someone who plays punishing pvp games. Server browsers were better than all of this matchmaking nonsense.
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Mordja posted:I've noticed this thread is just comedically anti anything PVP, unless it's a game from the last time goons were happy, age 12. We've all developed anxiety disorders in our adulthood
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# ? May 17, 2024 18:55 |
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Groovelord Neato posted:Dedicated servers were better and I say that as someone who plays punishing pvp games. Holy poo poo, they were. I think one of the big things people miss when comparing contemporary matchmaking with 90's and early 00's MP games is that servers were essentially a public space with a regular crew. Like if you logged in to play at a given time you'd usually end up playing with the same people, developing friendships and rivalries, a local culture of play emerged. Specially if it was a custom server running a particular mod. This is all lost with most games moving towards matchmaking, where the only regular people you meet are your existing friends you're already matched with, your opponents are mostly random and interchangeable, they might as well be bots if that technology hadn't died with the Unreal Tournament franchise. Sure, there are nostalgia glasses on, but mainstream MP gaming is objectively a very different experience now than it was 20 years ago.
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# ? May 17, 2024 19:00 |
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yea i like multi... playing multiple single player games that is!!
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# ? May 17, 2024 19:00 |
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Mordja posted:I've noticed this thread is just comedically anti anything PVP, unless it's a game from the last time goons were happy, age 12. This is such a terrible take. There is no way I was happy at age 12.
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# ? May 17, 2024 19:03 |
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I was playing games like Chivalry and Mordhau religiously until relatively recently, so it's not that I hate PVP. It's just modern shooters that don't interest me. I don't know why that is, it was never a conscious decision to stop playing them. It's not necessarily the competitive aspect, in the co-op games that I do play, I can be pretty competitive whenever it comes up. I think the difference is, when you get all the green circles in Vermintide 2 (which I do, on Cataclysm, because I am an epic gamer do not let the haters claim otherwise), it doesn't really affect the other players other than them not getting them. While if it's PVP, it's more of a zero-sum game, the other guys have to be getting destroyed if I'm dominating. I guess ranked play is a way to alleviate that, but then you get the problem of people caring way too much about their rank, or trying to manipulate it, and it's just eh. I'd rather go back to my good-vibes co-op game.
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# ? May 17, 2024 19:07 |
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Pennfalath posted:Instabuy if true: Dear Video Game God, please please please let this be good.
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# ? May 17, 2024 19:07 |
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Mordja posted:I've noticed this thread is just comedically anti anything PVP, unless it's a game from the last time goons were happy, age 12.
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# ? May 17, 2024 19:09 |
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Volte posted:I mainly just lament how the tone of PVP has shifted in the eSports era. It's mainly why I still like CoD, because nobody really takes it seriously in casual play and it's the closest to dumb arena fun that you can really get in the modern pantheon of popular games. Never, ever turn on the "you can hear your enemies mic when you kill them" feature if you still believe casual CoD is not taken seriously.
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# ? May 17, 2024 19:12 |
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Orv posted:Never, ever turn on the "you can hear your enemies mic when you kill them" feature if you still believe casual CoD is not taken seriously.
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# ? May 17, 2024 19:15 |
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:if only it worked this way, but of course players at all mmr levels will get extremely mad about losing mmr regardless of their own level of skill if they believe a teammate to be playing "non-optimally" Jack Trades posted:Turn off chat?
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# ? May 17, 2024 19:18 |
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dropping into a more social TF2 server and getting absorbed into the vibe was the best. The match wasn’t a formal thing that everyone there had queued into and formally started at the same time with all the tryhard expectations that system creates, it was just this come and go thing you got to be a part of for as long as you wanted with no obligations. I wish that environment was more common in competitive games. now I only play hunt showdown and I’m sad all the time. my head hurts
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# ? May 17, 2024 19:23 |
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ZearothK posted:Holy poo poo, they were. I think one of the big things people miss when comparing contemporary matchmaking with 90's and early 00's MP games is that servers were essentially a public space with a regular crew. Like if you logged in to play at a given time you'd usually end up playing with the same people, developing friendships and rivalries, a local culture of play emerged. Specially if it was a custom server running a particular mod. This is all lost with most games moving towards matchmaking, where the only regular people you meet are your existing friends you're already matched with, your opponents are mostly random and interchangeable, they might as well be bots if that technology hadn't died with the Unreal Tournament franchise. Sure, there are nostalgia glasses on, but mainstream MP gaming is objectively a very different experience now than it was 20 years ago.
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# ? May 17, 2024 19:24 |
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Owl Inspector posted:dropping into a more social TF2 server and getting absorbed into the vibe was the best. The match wasn’t a formal thing that everyone there had queued into and formally started at the same time with all the tryhard expectations that system creates, it was just this come and go thing you got to be a part of for as long as you wanted with no obligations. I wish that environment was more common in competitive games.
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# ? May 17, 2024 19:31 |
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Rusty posted:Games like Hell Let Loose and Squad still have this if those games are something you can stomach. They are 100% community servers that see the same people log in and play together with also a pretty large influx of new players regularly. Can speak for Hell Let Loose that they're really friendly to new players. Recommend to pick basic Rifleman if its your first or second time playing to get a feel of the game, but if you want to try some of the other roles, like Engineer (which lets you build fortifications anywhere on the map) don't be afraid to ask in squad or local what you should be doing. They're usually pretty helpful and are happy to see people playing the role they chose. The few times I've seen people get lovely, the rest of the server usually starts calling them out. One exception, though. Don't play commander (or to a much lesser extent, squad leader) unless you really know what you're doing, since those roles have specific important jobs that have an impact of more than a single player. Commanders can only talk to Squad Leads (and sniper/spotter squads(?)), where as Squad Leads can talk to other SL and their squad. Squaddies can only talk in local or with their squad.
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# ? May 17, 2024 19:36 |
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+1 for hell let loose. But I think the biggest thing I've done for my mental health as far as online multiplayer goes is completely refusing to play any game that can punish you for leaving in the middle of a match.
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# ? May 17, 2024 19:43 |
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:use playnite I tried Playnite only a few days ago and it's slow as hell, felt like it was running at 20fps or something. It was not great to use.
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# ? May 17, 2024 20:50 |
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Pennfalath posted:Instabuy if true: Please just let me recreate the loving episode 1 gungan vs battle droid fight please oh god gently caress
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# ? May 17, 2024 21:07 |
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Sgt. Cosgrove posted:Please just let me recreate the loving episode 1 gungan vs battle droid fight please oh god gently caress "What the gently caress, this is bullshit, I was winning and then some clumsy gently caress accidentally defeated my entire army by stepping in poopoo?!"
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# ? May 17, 2024 21:09 |
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Sgt. Cosgrove posted:Please just let me recreate the loving episode 1 gungan vs battle droid fight please oh god gently caress Look all want the droids to actually get to slaughter the gungans to the last but there’s no need to be so open about the bloodthirst.
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# ? May 17, 2024 21:17 |
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Sgt. Cosgrove posted:Please just let me recreate the loving episode 1 gungan vs battle droid fight please oh god gently caress Galactic Battlegrounds exists!
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# ? May 17, 2024 21:35 |
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Orv posted:Galactic Battlegrounds exists! There's also a bigass mod for GB which adds a bunch of new factions, which could be similar to how a TW:SW goes.
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# ? May 17, 2024 22:11 |
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Just got to the waiter scene in Yakuza Kiwami. Yeah, it's hosed, but technically he didn't kill the guy. I'll allow it e: fuckin'...Reina? Stabbed us in the back? I'm devastated Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 22:44 on May 17, 2024 |
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Speaking of Yakuza, here's my recent entry from 'beat a game' thread:FutureCop posted:Just beat Like a Dragon: Ishin! and had a good time overall with my 40 hour trek!
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Mordja posted:I've noticed this thread is just comedically anti anything PVP, unless it's a game from the last time goons were happy, age 12. If I wanted to interact with other people I wouldn't be sitting at home playing videogames.
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# ? May 18, 2024 05:15 |
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Mordja posted:I've noticed this thread is just comedically anti anything PVP, unless it's a game from the last time goons were happy, age 12. They are mad cuz bad
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# ? May 18, 2024 06:30 |
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exquisite tea posted:Online
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# ? May 18, 2024 06:41 |
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the last PvP game I played was Super Auto Pets last year, passive interactions ftw
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# ? May 18, 2024 07:11 |
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CA needs to include a Palpatine mode where you also control the enemy settlements and armies manually in singleplayer. I wonder how that guy who used to make QoL mods for Total War games but insisted on inserting Star Wars characters in the loading screens is handling this news?
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# ? May 18, 2024 07:36 |
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That guy now has a studio that makes the Ultimate General series of games, so probably he's okay with it.
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# ? May 18, 2024 07:54 |
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Single Player Pausing. As an update. Calling it: before 10 years, someone will sell the pause feature as DLC.
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# ? May 18, 2024 08:24 |
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FishMcCool posted:
does not seem like a slippery slope here op
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# ? May 18, 2024 08:35 |
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The 7th Guest posted:i mean i get it in this instance, it's because the game was always-online. now that they're patching that out, of course you'll be able to pause Even always-online games can pause easily in single-player. The server is just looking at your cheevos and chat and poo poo, it isn't serving you the game state. And even if it did... you can still pause those. See: every multiplayer RTS run on a sever. It's indefensible, which people in general might care more about if we didn't all know that Redfall (et al) was hot trash the moment it was previewed. People who actually paid money for it deserve what they got, suckers getting fleeced is no new business practice.
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# ? May 18, 2024 08:53 |
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The 7th Guest posted:i mean i get it in this instance, it's because the game was always-online. now that they're patching that out, of course you'll be able to pause Not a slippery slope no, just a sad sign of the times that it wasn't a thing in the first place. And as mentioned in the post above, many always-online games have no issue pausing single player modes, take Warframe for another example.
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# ? May 18, 2024 09:09 |
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Alchenar posted:That guy now has a studio that makes the Ultimate General series of games, so probably he's okay with it. Oh good for them, I didn't realize those had done well enough that there was more than that first one.
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# ? May 18, 2024 10:40 |
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Serephina posted:Even always-online games can pause easily in single-player. The server is just looking at your cheevos and chat and poo poo, it isn't serving you the game state. And even if it did... you can still pause those. See: every multiplayer RTS run on a sever. I don't care about Redfall but I feel like, while unusual, it's not a wildly rare thing that games with an online component don't let you pause in single player. Some niche titles that come to mind in which you couldn't pause are Dark Souls and Divinity Original Sin. (Which isn't to say it's a good feature or anything, but by itself not really a sign of overall game quality)
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# ? May 18, 2024 11:24 |
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Small indie titles like Elden Ring and Baldur's Gate 3 also don't pause when you open the menu.
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# ? May 18, 2024 14:32 |
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Pausing in the middle of
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# ? May 18, 2024 14:52 |
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Baldur's Gate 3 has a button to pause the game. It's just not Esc.
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Stuck on the last boss (I think) of arctic eggs. this is FIENDISH :edit: beat it within a minute of posting this Aipsh fucked around with this message at 15:40 on May 18, 2024 |
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