|
Whoa, it’s an official port too quote:It was programmed along with other Unix-like ports of Doom by id Software programmer Dave Taylor, with support from Richard Goldstein, Bart Smaalders, and Ken Leigh.
|
#
?
May 18, 2024 18:00
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 3, 2024 13:26 |
|
|
Beve Stuscemi posted:Whoa, it’s an official port too It makes sense. Doom was originally coded on NeXT then ported to Dos for commercial release. https://doomwiki.org/wiki/NEXTSTEP
|
|
#
?
May 18, 2024 18:56
|
|
|
It lives! But now I have to figure this out 
|
|
#
?
May 18, 2024 22:51
|
|
|
Beve Stuscemi posted:Whoa, it’s an official port too do not post Smaalders, Bart
|
|
#
?
May 18, 2024 22:56
|
|
|
I love the "2" in the middle of what otherwise looks like a binary string in the failed column
|
|
#
?
May 18, 2024 23:18
|
|
|
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAwJlD-m_hE
|
|
#
?
May 18, 2024 23:28
|
|
|
I think the NOK prompt means NOT OK, so the 2 being there sort of makes sense
|
|
#
?
May 18, 2024 23:43
|
|
|
Beve Stuscemi posted:It lives! But now I have to figure this out I assume it's a memory test failure, but I would at least try reseating the memory module and trying again. The stuff I field service is slightly newer than this with UltraSPARCs but they can be quite fussy about RAM errors.
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2024 00:06
|
|
|
r u ready to WALK posted:Is there any fun software that only runs on old Solaris? I also have a Sun Blade 100 in a spare bedroom with the Sun LCD monitor that would've come with it when new. It was given to me by a friend but haven't even looked at powering it up yet. Same as you, I can't really find any reason to power it up. I barely touched Sun equipment in the 90s/early 2000s, mainly dealt with DEC or SGI.
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2024 00:33
|
|
|
You Am I posted:I also have a Sun Blade 100 in a spare bedroom with the Sun LCD monitor that would've come with it when new. It was given to me by a friend but haven't even looked at powering it up yet. Same as you, I can't really find any reason to power it up. I barely touched Sun equipment in the 90s/early 2000s, mainly dealt with DEC or SGI. I was going to reply before and say about whatever commercial software which might be interesting (and now available as maybe-still-  ), but realised that actually all the interesting old versions of Photoshop, Aldus Pagemaker etc were for SGI machines not Suns. A few things like CorelDraw were on Solaris but not as many as I'd expected : /
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2024 00:53
|
|
|
I feel like sgi really cornered the graphics market and sun went after the server market. Although suns were big in the CAD world for a while. That was their primary use at my old job
Beve Stuscemi has a new favorite as of 03:20 on May 19, 2024 |
|
#
?
May 19, 2024 01:36
|
|
|
Arivia posted:It makes sense. Doom was originally coded on NeXT then ported to Dos for commercial release. https://doomwiki.org/wiki/NEXTSTEP Same with Wolf3D. Carmack went and bought a NeXTcube after they came up with the idea and nobody told him not to go spend eleven thousand dollars on a computer. It's mentioned in Masters of Doom, a book that really does enlighten the reader as to how much of a sociopathic weirdo John Carmack is.
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2024 06:04
|
|
|
Well, I'm really not sure whats going on with the Sun right now. At first it was throwing that memory error, which I fixed by reseating the RAM. Then it started throwing ecache errors, which came up pretty late in the POST process, and now its throwing a ROM mapping error pretty early in the process.code:
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2024 06:07
|
|
|
You Am I posted:I also have a Sun Blade 100 in a spare bedroom with the Sun LCD monitor that would've come with it when new. It was given to me by a friend but haven't even looked at powering it up yet. Same as you, I can't really find any reason to power it up. I barely touched Sun equipment in the 90s/early 2000s, mainly dealt with DEC or SGI. drat, if oyu were closer to me I would put my hand up to work on it.
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2024 12:04
|
|
|
Arivia posted:It makes sense. Doom was originally coded on NeXT then ported to Dos for commercial release. https://doomwiki.org/wiki/NEXTSTEP And people still have the nerve to say Macs suck for gaming.
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2024 14:57
|
|
|
Beve Stuscemi posted:Well, I'm really not sure whats going on with the Sun right now. At first it was throwing that memory error, which I fixed by reseating the RAM. Then it started throwing ecache errors, which came up pretty late in the POST process, and now its throwing a ROM mapping error pretty early in the process. So I don't know poo poo about sparcs but for a regular retro x86 PC my next steps would be something along the lines of make sure it actually detects a boot device and then either dump/verify or replace the ROM, assuming the latter is even possible here. That's from the serial output, right? Are you sure it isn't secretly switching to regular video?
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2024 15:18
|
|
|
It is from serial but I also have video hooked up and I’m not getting anything. I don’t think it kicks over to the display until the post process has completed
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2024 15:53
|
|
|
Also shout out to google groups for archiving Usenet posts, as that is where most of the good troubleshooting info on these machines is. The downside is all of the posts are from the late 90’s and early 00’s when these machines were coming out of corporate use and headed for the landfill, so most of the replies are “don’t bother fixing it, just buy a <next model in the lineup>”
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2024 15:57
|
|
|
Beve Stuscemi posted:It is from serial but I also have video hooked up and I’m not getting anything. I don’t think it kicks over to the display until the post process has completed Mine goes through everything and then gets to the login prompt over serial, and the serial output is chosen if there is no keyboard attached. I don't think video being attached makes any difference, but I'm still waiting for my 13w3 adapter to turn up in the post 
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2024 16:21
|
|
|
Beve Stuscemi posted:Well, I'm really not sure whats going on with the Sun right now. At first it was throwing that memory error, which I fixed by reseating the RAM. Then it started throwing ecache errors, which came up pretty late in the POST process, and now its throwing a ROM mapping error pretty early in the process. Do you have a Sun keyboard attached? If so does one of the LEDs for Numlock/Scroll lock/Compose light up and remain lit? If it's a Sun keyboard try also hitting the STOP key as it POSTs to see if it will skip the tests and head straight to OBP.
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2024 17:11
|
|
|
I have been doing it just over serial so far, but I can try a keyboard, I have a sun keyboard kicking around somewhere. Doesn’t it disable serial when the KB is connected though?
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2024 20:08
|
|
|
Beve Stuscemi posted:I have been doing it just over serial so far, but I can try a keyboard, I have a sun keyboard kicking around somewhere. Yes, unless told to output to serial via NVRAM settings, which you need a working serial console or Sun keyboard to set via the PROM 
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2024 00:04
|
|
|
Which I can’t get to because it won’t get through post. Dammit, sun, put that poo poo on a jumper
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2024 00:41
|
|
|
Beve Stuscemi posted:Tech Relics: Damnit, put that poo poo on a jumper
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2024 02:45
|
|
|
Beve Stuscemi posted:Which I can’t get to because it won’t get through post. You can also try reseating the NVRAM chip on the system board. There are two jumpers nearby J1602/J1603 which are supposed to set the serial port mode are those on pins 1/2 or 2/3?
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2024 14:11
|
|
|
I believe those just switch it from RS232 to RS485 or some similar serial standard.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2024 14:57
|
|
|
Beve Stuscemi posted:I believe those just switch it from RS232 to RS485 or some similar serial standard. Yep something like that. Documentation for these sun4m machines is a lot more limited than the "newer" machines from sun4u on in what I have unfortunately. Looks like on the logic board on yours the PROM is actually soldered and not replaceable socketed like in sun4u machines.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2024 15:52
|
|
|
zelate posted:Do you have a Sun keyboard attached? If so does one of the LEDs for Numlock/Scroll lock/Compose light up and remain lit? If it's a Sun keyboard try also hitting the STOP key as it POSTs to see if it will skip the tests and head straight to OBP. I've got a stack of old Sun pizza boxes lying around, but don't remember any of the OBP error poo poo and without my old sunsolve account I'm useless.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2024 22:06
|
|
|
Luxor Datorer ABC 802: or at least one possible configuration of it. Apparently you could Voltron your way into different layouts?
|
|
#
?
May 24, 2024 05:42
|
|
|
Trabant posted:Luxor Datorer ABC 802: I wonder if modern computer companies are ashamed when they see old computers that used to be cool. And now computers are just bland misery machines.
|
|
#
?
May 24, 2024 07:14
|
|
|
lobsterminator posted:I wonder if modern computer companies are ashamed when they see old computers that used to be cool. And now computers are just bland misery machines.
|
|
#
?
May 24, 2024 09:07
|
|
|
Trabant posted:Luxor Datorer ABC 802: I don't have the room and I've never seen one for sale, but I have wanted an 800 series since I first saw them decades ago.
|
|
#
?
May 24, 2024 09:58
|
|
|
Trabant posted:Luxor Datorer ABC 802: I bloody love this Alien style retrofuture design. People should do more of it.
|
|
#
?
May 24, 2024 12:44
|
|
|
Since those designs are making the most of the requisite bulkiness of the tech at the time, it would take some weird conscious intentional inefficiency to try to emulate that aesthetic with today's thin flat glued-to-the-wall tech. Like if you are building your computer around a CRT and floppy drives you're bought in to sacrificing an amount of desk space that is hard to do without anymore. But with a good enough eye for design it can still work. Reminded of how the 20th Anniversary Mac had an LCD and a vertical optical drive but with its stand ended up taking up as much desk space as the 128K, if not more
|
|
#
?
May 24, 2024 13:09
|
|
|
Trabant posted:Luxor Datorer ABC 802: Bring back beige, small screens and serifed fonts Right loving now.
|
|
#
?
May 24, 2024 13:15
|
|
|
I can do without the serifed fonts.
|
|
#
?
May 24, 2024 16:10
|
|
|
BlankSystemDaemon posted:I can do without the serifed fonts. Agreed. I have no nostalgia for serif fonts in computers. There weren't enough pixels in early computers for serifs. And serif was more and early web convention and it's something I have no nostalgia for.
|
|
#
?
May 24, 2024 16:36
|
|
|
Data Graham posted:Since those designs are making the most of the requisite bulkiness of the tech at the time, it would take some weird conscious intentional inefficiency to try to emulate that aesthetic with today's thin flat glued-to-the-wall tech. Like if you are building your computer around a CRT and floppy drives you're bought in to sacrificing an amount of desk space that is hard to do without anymore. But with a good enough eye for design it can still work. That little guy (and it reminds you of a little buddy, it was designed to be cute) is like the anti-thesis to how my supposedly modern computers are set up. They're sprawling over a couple of desks, there's huge displays for watching my cat videos on, and I have a lap-top too.
|
|
#
?
May 24, 2024 16:38
|
|
|
What the hell did serif typefaces do to all of you?
|
|
#
?
May 24, 2024 17:18
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 3, 2024 13:26 |
|
|
I shot the serif.
|
|
#
?
May 24, 2024 17:19
|
|
