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GOTHAM is a television show about Gotham City, but not about Batman. At least, not about a grown man in a bat costume. It chronicles the experiences of a young Jim Gordon (Ben McKenzie) in crime-ridden Gotham City. Along the way, he'll work with (or against) Harvey Bullock (Donal Logue), Oswald Cobblepot (Robin Lord Taylor), Selina Kyle (Camren Bicondova), and some kid whose parents get killed in Crime Alley (David Mazouz). (More on the Wayne Murders can be found at the city's Most Trusted News Source.) The Television Critics Association has named Gotham "Most Promising New Show of the Fall," as well as "Most Promising New Drama." They also note Robin Lord Taylor as a potential new breakout star. Gotham will premiere Monday, September 22. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d1zpt6k5OI (for my part, I'd be happy just to watch Donal Logue as Bullock riding around in a GCPD blimp for 44 minutes a week, every week.) James "No Mustache" Gordon: Bruce Selina "Catwoman" Kyle: Harvey "Oh God Don't Let the Neckbeards Take Him As a Fashion Role Model" Bullock: Oswald "the Penguin" Cobblepot: Fish "Brand New Character Not in the Comics" Mooney Alfred "the Butler" Pennyworth: Edward "Riddley McCheekbones" Nygma: 10/06: Mister Mind fucked around with this message at 06:16 on Oct 7, 2014 |
# ? May 6, 2014 06:22 |
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# ? Jun 8, 2024 07:55 |
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That trailer actually surprised me. I'll definitely watch a couple of episodes and see how it turns out. I'd rather a show about Gotham than loving Agents of loving Shield anyway. And if it turns out terrible, it'll be worth it for Young Penguin, who looks amazing.
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# ? May 6, 2014 10:49 |
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I was unconvinced by the premise but that trailer seemed pretty good.
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# ? May 6, 2014 12:54 |
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I'm curious to see what they're actually going to be able to do with all these not-yet-supervillains (and Bruce). Particularly the ones who are still kids. It doesn't seem like there's much to work with there.
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# ? May 6, 2014 13:01 |
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The casting of Selina Kyle seems spot on, almost like they got a time machine to bring back teenage Michelle Pfeiffer. http://comicsalliance.com/gotham-set-photos-young-bruce-wayne-selina-kyle/
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# ? May 6, 2014 13:08 |
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Gotham Knights was a pretty good book; if the show captures any of that at all, it has potential. A police force in a corrupt city with a super-threat just lying in the background/undercurrent works fine. They also have a lot to play with, with characters like Penguin rising to crime lord, etc. Although I have no idea what they'd be doing with Poison Ivy.
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# ? May 6, 2014 13:16 |
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Finally, a chance for me to see what all my favourite batman characters were like before they were interesting.
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# ? May 6, 2014 13:28 |
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I'm still not 100% sold on this premise, but god drat, that trailer.
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# ? May 6, 2014 14:22 |
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The trailer looks kind of awful....but fun in a pulpy way, so I'll check it out. Everyone should really read io9's analysis of the pilot script before getting their hopes up. I can't get over what a hilariously ill-advised idea this is though.
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# ? May 6, 2014 14:29 |
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Bown posted:The trailer looks kind of awful....but fun in a pulpy way, so I'll check it out. Everyone should really read io9's analysis of the pilot script before getting their hopes up. I can't get over what a hilariously ill-advised idea this is though. Oh dear Lord, that's (if accurate) not a good sign. Still, every decade needs its "Birds of Prey", right?
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# ? May 6, 2014 14:45 |
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Alfred posted:Oi! Master Bruce! Stop playing silly buggers! Get your bloody arse down off there! I think I will watch it just to see this line spoken. Ravane fucked around with this message at 16:19 on May 6, 2014 |
# ? May 6, 2014 16:17 |
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But does Gordon have a beer and "cheet" on his wife?
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# ? May 6, 2014 16:21 |
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I thought Arrow was going to be shite but that turned out all right so I'll definitely give it go. I had no idea this was a thing until I saw the thread.. Is taking inspiration from Batman: Year One?
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# ? May 6, 2014 16:34 |
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The trailer looks nice, hopefully it will be good. Nice to see some backstory on Gotham as a setting before Batman came to life.
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# ? May 6, 2014 16:54 |
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The Cosby Mysteries posted:I thought Arrow was going to be shite but that turned out all right so I'll definitely give it go. I had no idea this was a thing until I saw the thread.. Is taking inspiration from Batman: Year One? Batman Year One was covered in Batman Begins and Batman Mask of the Phantasm mostly, although this does have Gotham police corruption in it (as did Begins).
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# ? May 6, 2014 17:08 |
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Looking forward to seeing kid Clayface playing with mud at the park's playground.
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# ? May 6, 2014 17:15 |
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Krad posted:Looking forward to seeing kid Clayface playing with mud at the park's playground. Every episode a young Harvey Dent narrowly avoids facial burns. Someone spills a cup of coffee on him, it turns out to be cold. He falls over into a pool of liquid, turns out it's rainwater.
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# ? May 6, 2014 17:18 |
I don't understand why they aren't just doing a Gotham Central show. It's such a perfect premise for an original crime procedural.
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# ? May 6, 2014 18:59 |
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Steve2911 posted:Every episode a young Harvey Dent narrowly avoids facial burns. Someone spills a cup of coffee on him, it turns out to be cold. He falls over into a pool of liquid, turns out it's rainwater. So it's going to be like Hot Tub Time Machine where the characters are constantly trying to figure out when Crispen Glover loses his arm? Man if they actually ran with the Hot Tub Time Machine plot, only with Booster Gold, Skeets, Blue Bettle, Fire, Ice and Guy Gardner instead that would be the GREATEST thing ever.
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# ? May 6, 2014 19:01 |
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SimonChris posted:I don't understand why they aren't just doing a Gotham Central show. It's such a perfect premise for an original crime procedural. Oh please, people won't be able to take Mr. Freeze and the serial murder of fake Robins seriously. Now let's have (script spoilers)the coroner be Riddler so that we can make autopsy scenes funny.
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# ? May 6, 2014 19:04 |
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Steve2911 posted:Every episode a young Harvey Dent narrowly avoids facial burns. Someone spills a cup of coffee on him, it turns out to be cold. He falls over into a pool of liquid, turns out it's rainwater. EXT. NIGHT -- ALLEYWAY Bruce Wayne (aka BATMAN) stands over his dead parents. BRUCE (AKA BATMAN) I'm going to get the JOKER who did this to my parents. He narrows his eyes and then turns and winks directly into the camera before backflipping out of frame.
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# ? May 6, 2014 19:37 |
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I loved the trailer, but I still think this will turn out to be mediocre. That said, it's a Batman show and stars Donal Logue so I am all in.
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# ? May 6, 2014 19:42 |
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SimonChris posted:I don't understand why they aren't just doing a Gotham Central show. It's such a perfect premise for an original crime procedural. A Law & Order: Gotham City Major Crimes Unit series would be the best thing ever. But...we get what we get. The Question IRL posted:Man if they actually ran with the Hot Tub Time Machine plot, only with Booster Gold, Skeets, Blue Bettle, Fire, Ice and Guy Gardner instead that would be the GREATEST thing ever. Okay, this would be the best thing. Mister Mind fucked around with this message at 19:45 on May 6, 2014 |
# ? May 6, 2014 19:42 |
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SimonChris posted:I don't understand why they aren't just doing a Gotham Central show. It's such a perfect premise for an original crime procedural. Because they can't do a show with any expectation that the actual Batman would show up. That was Birds of Prey's whole deal: Bruce Wayne was still out there in the show's universe somewhere, but he had abandoned Gotham, so instead you get his daughter as Huntress, Oracle, and awkward fight scenes with t.A.T.u. blasting over them. I'll probably give this a shot to see how Donal Logue as Harvey Bullock turns out. But this show has a lot going against it, even more so than Arrow did.
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# ? May 6, 2014 19:45 |
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hcreight posted:Because they can't do a show with any expectation that the actual Batman would show up. That was Birds of Prey's whole deal: Bruce Wayne was still out there in the show's universe somewhere, but he had abandoned Gotham, so instead you get his daughter as Huntress, Oracle, and awkward fight scenes with t.A.T.u. blasting over them. Haha, in six seasons you get to see bruce put on a grey tshirt with a yellow oval on the front of it. Also, I really liked Donal in Terriers, so I'm happy at least that he's in this. The trailer didn't do much for me, though.
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# ? May 6, 2014 20:10 |
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I'm hopeful that this will be a good show but if Donal Logue's track record is any indication it won't last too long. He already killed Copper and Terriers but thankfully he didn't torpedo Vikings.
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# ? May 6, 2014 20:10 |
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Well the show has some more stuff going for it than Arrow or Birds of Prey. 1. Casting is really spot on: Like as people said Selina Kyle is perfect so is the guy playing Penguin. 2. No Joker at the start. It's always a good sign when the Joker isn't pulled out at the very beginning. He's awesome, but he's getting a bit overused, it speaks to some level of confidence in the premise that they've tucked him away somewhere. 3. It could be legit interesting to see how Penguin and Riddler become the crazy nutters we come to love. Batman has always been a bit more about the villains than Batman and both Penguin and Riddler have never gotten good origin stories. 4. Bruce is young enough that he can't be flying around as Batman without a time jump. So at least they are somewhat committed to not having Batman.
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# ? May 6, 2014 20:14 |
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holy poo poo this is awesome can we just get the rest of southland's cast please
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# ? May 6, 2014 20:14 |
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I'm in for the first few episodes on Logue as Bullock and Sean Pertwee as Alfred alone.
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# ? May 6, 2014 20:26 |
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So wait, how much older than Batman is Catwoman supposed to be?
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# ? May 6, 2014 20:59 |
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raditts posted:So wait, how much older than Batman is Catwoman supposed to be? +2 years
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# ? May 6, 2014 21:20 |
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BrandonLakeTruck posted:+2 years She looks like she's in her 20's. Edit: IMDB says she's between 13-15. Maybe she just wears too much makeup.
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# ? May 6, 2014 22:10 |
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I'd love to hear the line of reasoning behind changing Poison Ivy's name and also how she's suddenly not a regular girl up until her accident.
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# ? May 6, 2014 22:23 |
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SpazmasterX posted:I'd love to hear the line of reasoning behind changing Poison Ivy's name and also how she's suddenly not a regular girl up until her accident. Maybe it's a nickname? And Pamela Isley was a botanist, so it's not like she couldn't have a connection to plants before she turns into Poison Ivy. Not that I really know though. The leaked script might not even be real.
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# ? May 6, 2014 22:31 |
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Calling it now: the first season finale will have an outright reference to the Joker, setting him up as someone to come in for season two. That's why he's under wraps right now, he's the season finale bomb they want to drop.
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# ? May 6, 2014 22:41 |
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Iseeyouseemeseeyou posted:can we just get the rest of southland's cast please Right? I'm glad to see most of the Southland people getting work in one way or another. I'm not convinced that McKenzie has much dramatic range, but just about anything related to cops he has covered.
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# ? May 6, 2014 22:43 |
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Antti posted:Calling it now: the first season finale will have an outright reference to the Joker, setting him up as someone to come in for season two. That's why he's under wraps right now, he's the season finale bomb they want to drop. Or at least until the ratings start dropping.
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# ? May 6, 2014 23:12 |
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Burning_Monk posted:Or at least until the ratings start dropping. I have an image of my mind of several "Joker" scripts encased in glass with a sign that reads "Break In Case Ratings Drop Bellow Two Million Viewers"
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# ? May 6, 2014 23:20 |
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The trailer looked surprisingly not-awful but I can't imagine this being a good show, not unless they just get all the winking references out of the way in the first episode and then just completely focus on Gordon's struggle to survive the utter corruption of the police force.
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# ? May 6, 2014 23:43 |
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# ? Jun 8, 2024 07:55 |
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I'd be alright with Red Hood, but they should stay away from Joker. With Smallville, Clark meets and fights all his villains before he's officially even Superman. It'll be even more ridiculous for that to happen before Batman hits puberty.
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# ? May 7, 2014 00:04 |