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What is your favourite thing about RMS
The beard
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that which you refer to as linux is actually GNU/Linux
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bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
Post your fave RMS moments, anecdotes, songs, techniques, love letters, fanfiction. Any jokes about root mean square will be frowned upon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sJUDx7iEJw

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triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014



:firstpost:

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
poo poo i forgot to add this to teh poll

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQ

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
I generally do not connect to web sites from my own machine, aside from a few sites I have some special relationship with. I fetch web pages from other sites by sending mail to a program (see git://git.gnu.org/womb/hacks.git) that fetches them, much like wget, and then mails them back to me. Then I look at them using a web browser, unless it is easy to see the text in the HTML page directly. I usually try lynx first, then a graphical browser if the page needs it (but I make sure I have no net connection, so that it won't fetch anything else).

I also browse from other people's computers, with their permission. Since I don't identify myself to the sites I visit, this browsing can't be connected with me.

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

people should be probated for even ironic appreciation of this wreck of a human being.

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:

duTrieux. posted:

people should be probated for even ironic appreciation of this wreck of a human being.

you wouldnt b able to post here without GNU and free software. owned.

PS dont sign you are psots

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


First Post.

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

bobbilljim posted:

you wouldnt b able to post here without GNU and free software. owned.

how is that not a further indictment?

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
The existence of software inevitably raises the question of how decisions about its use should be made. For example, suppose one individual who has a copy of a program meets another who would like a copy. It is possible for them to copy the program; who should decide whether this is done? The individuals involved? Or another party, called the “owner”?

Software developers typically consider these questions on the assumption that the criterion for the answer is to maximize developers' profits. The political power of business has led to the government adoption of both this criterion and the answer proposed by the developers: that the program has an owner, typically a corporation associated with its development.

I would like to consider the same question using a different criterion: the prosperity and freedom of the public in general.

This answer cannot be decided by current law—the law should conform to ethics, not the other way around. Nor does current practice decide this question, although it may suggest possible answers. The only way to judge is to see who is helped and who is hurt by recognizing owners of software, why, and how much. In other words, we should perform a cost-benefit analysis on behalf of society as a whole, taking account of individual freedom as well as production of material goods.

neutral milf hotel
Oct 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
somebody post the rms email about how being a birther is not remarkable at all

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

or that bit about how he thinks developers should literally let their children starve to death rather than make money off of their software

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

or his pedophile apologia

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:

BeOSPOS posted:

somebody post the rms email about how being a birther is not remarkable at all

Could people please not use this list to announce information of no particular interest to the people on the list? Hundreds of thousands of babies are born every day. While the whole phenomenon is menacing, one of them by itself is not newsworthy. Nor is it a difficult achievement--even some fish can do it. (Now, if you were a seahorse, it would be more interesting, since it would be the male that gave birth.)

Following your example, I might send the list an announcement whenever a new GNU program is written. That happens less often than babies are born, it does the world a lot more good, it reflects more conscious creativity and hard work, and some of the readers might actually find the information useful. Even so, I think most of the readers would consider this outside the scope and purpose of the list. Clearly that goes double for babies.

Of course, we have another place for announcements of new GNU programs. If some people like to read birth announcements, perhaps you should set up a suitable list or newsgroup. Perhaps rec.births? (While you're at it, start rec.deaths for obituaries--they're usually more interesting to read.)

These birth announcements also spread the myth that having a baby is something to be proud of, which fuels natalist pressure, which leads to pollution, extinction of wildlife, poverty, and ultimately mass starvation.

Perhaps the people who have decided to have no children should start making proud announcements, so as to set a better example. I could start. I'm sure everyone on this list will be glad to know I don't plan to reproduce myself.

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:

duTrieux. posted:

or his pedophile apologia

Richard Stallman posted:

https://stallman.org/archives/2006-may-aug.html#05 June 2006 (Dutch paedophiles form political party)
Dutch pedophiles have formed a political party to campaign for legalization.

I am skeptical of the claim that voluntarily pedophilia harms children. The arguments that it causes harm seem to be based on cases which aren't voluntary, which are then stretched by parents who are horrified by the idea that their little baby is maturing.

bobbilljim fucked around with this message at 03:22 on Oct 17, 2014

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
put some quotes around that one in case they try to make me a mod

neutral milf hotel
Oct 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

bobbilljim posted:

Could people please not use this list to announce information of no particular interest to the people on the list? Hundreds of thousands of babies are born every day. While the whole phenomenon is menacing, one of them by itself is not newsworthy. Nor is it a difficult achievement--even some fish can do it. (Now, if you were a seahorse, it would be more interesting, since it would be the male that gave birth.)

Following your example, I might send the list an announcement whenever a new GNU program is written. That happens less often than babies are born, it does the world a lot more good, it reflects more conscious creativity and hard work, and some of the readers might actually find the information useful. Even so, I think most of the readers would consider this outside the scope and purpose of the list. Clearly that goes double for babies.

Of course, we have another place for announcements of new GNU programs. If some people like to read birth announcements, perhaps you should set up a suitable list or newsgroup. Perhaps rec.births? (While you're at it, start rec.deaths for obituaries--they're usually more interesting to read.)

These birth announcements also spread the myth that having a baby is something to be proud of, which fuels natalist pressure, which leads to pollution, extinction of wildlife, poverty, and ultimately mass starvation.

Perhaps the people who have decided to have no children should start making proud announcements, so as to set a better example. I could start. I'm sure everyone on this list will be glad to know I don't plan to reproduce myself.

ty

I'm sure everyone on this list will be glad to know I don't plan to reproduce myself.

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice

bobbilljim posted:

put some quotes around that one in case they try to make me a mod

too late, your star trek fan club membership card is already in the mail :twisted:

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice

BeOSPOS posted:

ty

I'm sure everyone on this list will be glad to know I don't plan to reproduce myself.

:respek:

lol @ breeding, just grow old and die and have a baby skelly instead

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
how coudl i forget

:rms2::rms2::rms2::rms2::rms2::rms2::rms2::rms2::rms2::rms2::rms2::rms2::rms2::rms2::rms2::rms2::rms2:


Cold on a Cob posted:

too late, your star trek fan club membership card is already in the mail :twisted:

noooo!!!!!

a rad dink
May 28, 2006

take me to your peener
wait, why is stuff free now?

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

pity reply

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl
what are stallman's opinions on systemd?

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:

Tarlach posted:

wait, why is stuff free now?

free as in beer, or free as in speech? :rms2:


Bloody posted:

pity reply

:peanut:

FamDav
Mar 29, 2008

bobbilljim posted:

put some quotes around that one in case they try to make me a mod

you just blow your only shot

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

what are stallman's opinions on systemd?

it is free (as in speech) software so he probably thinks it is OK. this is speculation though.

FamDav
Mar 29, 2008

FamDav posted:

you just blow your only shot

shame it wasnt into a little boy. he could've been the next mod of noted forum of 2001 something awful, LLC

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:

FamDav posted:

shame it wasnt into a little boy. he could've been the next mod of noted forum of 2001 something awful, LLC

drat you for picking your own low hanging fruit.

FamDav
Mar 29, 2008

bobbilljim posted:

drat you for picking your own low hanging fruit.

shame you didnt pick a prepubescent males high hanging fruit. you could've gone on to tour the country giving speeches with noted incel twitter c-lister doc evil

a rad dink
May 28, 2006

take me to your peener

bobbilljim posted:

free as in beer, or free as in speech? :rms2:


:peanut:

is beer free?

i dont know what to make of my life...

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
no you see, you dont have to pay for free beer, but you cant modify it or freely reproduuce it, or somethign wheras free sppech means u can do whatever u liek with it and furthermore, software, FOSS GNUGPLv3 etc. thankyou.

a rad dink
May 28, 2006

take me to your peener
RMS lifestyle

See also for info on my practices involving computers.
I don't have a favorite this or that

I do not have a favorite food, a favorite book, a favorite song, a favorite joke, a favorite flower, or a favorite butterfly. My tastes don't work that way.

In general, in any area of art or sensation, there are many ways for something to be good, and they cannot be compared and ordered. I can't judge whether I like chocolate better or noodles better, because I like them in different ways. Thus, I cannot determine which food is my favorite.

Home

Until around 1998, my office at MIT was also my residence. I was even registered to vote from there. Nowadays I have a separate residence in Cambridge not far from MIT. However, I am rarely there, since I am nearly always travelling out of town.

Music

Music genres I often like include some Spanish folk music (but not Flamenco), Latvian folk music, Swedish folk fiddling, Moroccan traditional music, Soukous, Balkan folk dance music, Turkish folk dance music, Turkish classical music, Armenian folk dance music, Georgian choral music, Indian classical music (I tend to enjoy Carnatic more than Hindustani), Javanese and Balinese gamelan music, Vietnamese traditional music, Japanese court music (Gagaku), Japanese folk dance music (Minyo), Andean folk music (except when the words are in Spanish and about romantic rejection), and traditional US folk music when it is lively.

I like European art music, but I have less appetite for it than I had a few decades ago.

I like polyphonic music from medieval times. Especially from the 1200's, with hocket. However, Gregorian chant has insufficient complexity to engage me.

I don't appreciate jazz much, perhaps because I never learned enough about it. However, I like some fusions that include jazz. For instance, Bulgarian wedding music (a fusion of jazz and Bulgarian folk music) and Latin jazz.

I like some avant garde works — for instance, Conlon Nancarrow's player piano music.

If something is popular in the US, I usually find it boring, but there are occasional exceptions. I liked much of what I used to hear on the radio before the Beatles. Around 1980 there was another period in which I heard on other people's radios a considerable amount of music I liked.

I dislike most country music especially. I dislike c…rap music too. I don't like slow romantic songs, or harsh-sounding rock. "Heavy metal" sounds too harsh to me; anyway, the name is deceptive: the metal in a bronze gamelan is far heavier.

If I generally dislike a certain kind of music, there can be occasional exceptions which I like nonetheless. For instance, I love Weird Al's "Can't Watch This", even though it's c…rap, because it's a parody of c…rap.

When a foreign musical style starts becoming popular in the US, it usually develops in a direction I don't like. For instance, I love Bulgarian folk dance music but I am bored by the Bulgarian women's chorus that became a big hit in the US in the 80s. Youssou nDour's music was exciting in the 80s, but then he started making records for US and European tastes and the spark disappeared.

Food

I am an omnivore; I will try almost anything if it doesn't gross me out.

I refuse to eat the most intelligent animals, such as simians, cetacians and parrots.

In Taiwan I once ate insects — specifically, larval bees and crickets. I loved the larval bees, and hope I will have a chance to eat more. On another visit to Taiwan, I ate snake (two kinds of snake, in two different preparations). I liked them well enough, but not tremendously.

Cooked tuna tastes terrible. What a waste of good tuna, to cook it!

I refuse to eat shark fin, because collecting the fins is wiping out the sharks. For similar reasons I now usually don't eat tuna sushi (although I love that).

I uphold the total boycott of Coca Cola Company, which is a response to the murder of union organizers in Colombia and Guatemala. I will not use any of that company's products and I hope you will reject them too.

'Breakfast'? Is that the thing some people eat in the 'morning'?

Seriously, for many years in the 1970s I was almost always asleep when other people had breakfast, so I got used to waking up and having lunch or dinner. I thus lost all association between any particular time of day and any particular foods. Nowadays I am often awake in the morning, but I still have no such association: what I'd like to eat when I wake up is anything I'd like to eat at any other time.

Religion

I am an Atheist, for scientific reasons. The religious theory of the natural world ("It's this way because a god decided to make it this way") does not explain anything, it only replaces one question with another. That means it is so bad that "valid" and "invalid" don't even apply.

I also reject the idea that a god's opinions would provide us with a moral compass. A god that would allow so much suffering to occur — most of it not the result of anyone's free will — is clearly no use as a guide. It would be entitled to its opinion just like you or I, but its opinion would not be entitled to any special respect.

Religion offers no moral short-cut. It is up to us to figure out what is right and what is wrong.

Clothing

Not all my shirts are red or purple, but many are. I like those colors.

None of my shirts carry messages (such as words or symbols). That practice strikes me as lacking dignity, so I won't wear clothing with symbols, not even for causes I support. This is not a matter of ethical disapproval, so I don't mind selling hats and shirts with free software slogans on behalf of the FSF; but I choose not to wear them myself.

As a matter of principle, I refuse to own a tie.

I find ties uncomfortable, so I don't wear them. If ties were simply a clothing option, I would decline to use them but there would be no reason to make a fuss about it. However, there is an absurd social pressure on men to wear ties. They do this as a form of sucking up to the boss.

When I worked at MIT, I was shocked that MIT graduates, people who could have almost dictated employment terms, felt compelled to wear ties to job interviews, even with companies that (they knew) had the sense not to ask them to wear ties on the job.

I think the tie means, "I will be so subservient as an employee that I will do even totally senseless things just because you tell me to." Going to a job interview without a tie is a way of saying you don't want to work for someone who wants that.

The people who wear ties under these circumstances are victim-coperpetrators: each one who cedes to this pressure and wears a tie increases the pressure on others. This is a central concept for understanding other forms of propagating nastiness, including nonfree software and Facebook. In fact, it was in regard to ties that I first recognized this phenomenon.

I don't condemn victim-coperpetrators, since they are primarily victims and only secondarily perpetrators. But I believe I should not be one of them. I hope my refusal to wear a tie will make it easier for you to refuse as well.

The first time I visited Croatia, that country had a major PR campaign based on being the origin of the tie. ("Cravate" and "Croat" are related words.) You can imagine my distaste for this — therefore, I referred to that country as "Tieland" for a while.

The Free Software Foundation's dress code says that a propeller beanie is required, but other clothing is optional. However, we don't enforce it.

Surveillance issues

See also How I use the Internet.

"Loyalty cards"

I refuse to have supermarket frequent buyer cards of my own because they are a form of surveillance. I am willing to pay extra for my privacy and to resist an abusive system. See nocards.org for more explanation of this issue.

However, I don't mind using someone else's card or number once in a while, to avoid the extra charge for not using a card. That doesn't track me.

I do use airline frequent flier numbers because the airlines demand to know my identity anyway.

However, I won't purchase other things with an airline-linked credit card to get miles, because I'd rather pay cash and be anonymous.

Credit Cards

I have a credit card, but I use it as rarely as possible. Effectively, only for airline tickets, car rental, and hotel checkin — because they demand identification anyway.

I pay some other bills with checks. Once again, the payees already know my name.

Cellular Phones

I see that cellular phones are very convenient. I would have got one, if not for certain reprehensible things about them.

Cell phones are tracking and surveillance devices. They all enable the phone system to record where the user goes, and many (perhaps all) can be remotely converted into listening devices.

In addition, most of them are computers with nonfree software installed. Even if they don't allow the user to replace the software, someone else can replace it remotely. Since the software can be changed, we cannot regard it as equivalent to a circuit. A machine that allows installation of software is a computer, and computers should run free software.

Nearly every cell phone has a universal back door that allows remote conversion into a listening device. (See Murder in Samarkand, by Craig Murray, for an example.) This is as nasty as a device can get.

From the book Alone Together, by Sherry Turkle, I learned that portable phones make many people's lives oppressive, because they feel compelled to spend all day receiving and responding to text messages which interrupt everything else. Perhaps my decision to reject this convenience for its deep injustice has turned out best in terms of convenience as well.

When I need to call someone, I ask someone nearby to let me make a call. If I use someone else's cell phone, that doesn't give Big Brother any information about me.

Holidays

I mostly ignore holidays, except for Grav-mass. They have no direct effect on me, since I work when I wish (which is most of the time) and do other things when I wish.

If I had a family, and holidays were a special opportunity to do some leisure activity when others did not have work or school, that would be a rational reason to pay attention to them. However, I decided not to have a family, and I don't need to wait for a holiday to see my friends.

Many holidays have become commercialized: corporate PR has taught many people that buying things for their friends or relatives on these days is "the thing to do", and the truest expression of love. I dislike the feeling that I am obliged to give a gift for some meaningless event, and get no particular pleasure from receiving gifts under these circumstances either, and hiding the fact that I don't like a gift makes me feel quite uncomfortable. So I would rather just stay out of it.

Trains

I like trains, and in general I would rather take a train for many hours than fly.

However, I absolutely refuse to take Amtrak trains because they check passengers' ID (sometimes, not all the time). Please join me in boycotting Amtrak until it stops requiring identification.

It's not that I expect my personal rejection to make Amtrak change. Rather, as long as Amtrak does not change, I resent it so much I'd rather take a bus.

Learning languages

First I study with a textbook to learn to read the language, using a recording of the sounds to start saying the words to myself. When I finish the textbook, I start reading children's books (for 7-10 year olds) with a dictionary. I advance to books for teenagers when I know enough words that it becomes tolerably fast.

When I know enough words, I start writing the language in email when I am in conversations with people who speak that language.

I don't try actually speaking the language until I know enough words to be able to say the complex sorts of things I typically want to say. Simple sentences are almost as rare in my speech as in this writing. In addition, I need to know how to ask questions about how to say things, what a word means, and how certain words differ, and how to understand the answers.

I first started actually speaking French during my first visit to France. I decided on arrival in the airport that I would speak only French for the whole 6 weeks. This was frustrating to colleagues whose English was much better than my French. But it enabled me to learn.

I decided to learn Spanish when I saw a page printed in Spanish and found I could mostly read it (given my French and English). I followed the approach described above, and began speaking Spanish during a two-week visit to Mexico, a couple of years later.

As for Indonesian, I have not got enough vocabulary to speak it all the time when in Indonesia, but I try to speak it as much as possible.

Avoiding Boredom

I hate being bored, and since I want to get a lot done, I don't like losing time. So I always carry a computer and a book. When I have a few minutes to wait and can sit down, I get work done. When I have to stand, or the wait isn't long enough to do anything useful on the computer, I read.

When I wait for my baggage in an airport, I always do one of these two. I notice the people around me, anxiously looking for their bags and getting nothing done. They would be happier if they did as I do.

Copyright (c) 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 Richard Stallman
Verbatim copying and redistribution of this entire page are permitted provided this notice is preserved.

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
what a load of c...rap

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
Andean folk music (except when the words are in Spanish and about romantic rejection)

:raise:

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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*pile of skin flakes terseley slaps down a filthy fistful of bills and shambles off to the elevator, leaving trail of Yoolong Lemote netbooks*

"who was that guy?"

"Dunno. Paid cash."

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
also huge lovely classist spotted (country/rap hate)

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


open source philosophy is like someone took all the worst aspects of socialism and ayn rand libertarianism, put them in a blender, then projectile vomited them all over the walls and carpet

a rad dink
May 28, 2006

take me to your peener
Let us all take a moment and wonder what it's like to me Richard Matthew Stallman. A life so devoid of meaning that it attaches itself, leechlike to a meaningless cause. So absent of significance that trivialities such as foodstuffs become worldbreaking matters. "Free" software? Please. Yes please. No Please. It doesn't matter; it never did and never will. Nothing's free. It costs something, though sometimes it costs almost nothing. "Linux"? It "costs" nothing. Nothing but your wellbeing. I wish I was dead. A peace I wish I could impart to poor Richard. He needs so desperately to be free from his prison of thought.

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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icantfindaname posted:

open source philosophy is like someone took all the worst aspects of socialism and ayn rand libertarianism, put them in a blender, then projectile vomited them all over the walls and carpet

"you will let me eat cheetos and mt. dew until I get diabetes because i am a wealth creator, but then you're going to pay for the treatment" it's simple RPG minmaxing.

a rad dink
May 28, 2006

take me to your peener
Also: L.O.L., dude eats he own feet

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May 5, 2005



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