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Stolen poo poo from old OP's, with amendments and updates by me. Some of this stuff is no longer relevant or accurate, but I'm lazy and not up to date on scandinavian politics (minus mayyybe Swedens) but since no one else can be arsed to do this I guess you'll have to deal with it, eh?quote:Woke up early with a cold and thought I'd begin doing that write-up. Here's the parties currently in parliament and what I think I know about them. Feel free to point out typos and anything you feel is missing or just wrong. Now Sweden! The current Swedish parliament is nearing the end of its usual four-year term, and on the second Sunday in September (that is, September 14th) a new parliament will be elected. As usual, elections to the municipal and county assemblies are held at the same time. This thread is for discussing and debating everything related to Swedish politics in general and the elections in general. Brief introduction to the electoral system The 349 members of the unicameral parliament (henceforth referred to by its Swedish name, the Riksdag) are all elected at once in a proportional system with 29 constituencies. If you're a maths nerd there are a few quirks to the system that might interest you. A member of parliament is called a riksdagsledamot. Seats in the riksdag are assigned on a per-party basis, with a minimum of 4% of the votes nationally or 12% in a single constituency required to enter the riksdag. Voters may also (optionally) cast a vote for which candidate of their chosen party they would prefer; at least 5% of the votes in a single constituency are required for a candidate to get elected instead of the party's preferred candidate in this way. The municipal and county elections work in mostly the same way, but the votes are separate for each of the three elections. You can thus vote for a different party in each of them, if you wish. Once seated, the riksdag elects a prime minister, who chooses his cabinet as he or she wishes. Immediately after the elections there's usually a fair amount of horse-trading among the seated parties - usually, no party gets a significant majority by themselves, so the bigger parties go looking for allies among the smaller ones, promising favors such as cabinet posts in exchange for support for their prime minister candidate. If the opposition is fractured and cannot unite behind a single candidate, your coalition won't need an absolute majority to form a government. Voter participation tends to be fairly high by global standards. In the 2010 elections, the turnout was 84.63% of the elegible voters, which was the biggest participation since 1994. In the 70's and 80's, however, participation was frequently over 90%; the all time high was 91.76% in 1976. Parties currently seated in the Riksdag The sitting government (ruling since the 2014 elections) is a green-socialist-leftist minority coalition, consisting of Socialdemokraterna and Miljöpartiet. Usually Vänsterpartiet votes in step with them as well. Moderaterna, Centerpartiet, Folkpartiet and Kristdemokraterna, which refers to itself as Allians för Sverige ("Alliance for Sweden") or just Alliansen ("the Alliance") are the opposition parties. The alliance is headed by AKB, who is the chairman of Moderaterna. quote:
Moderaterna (the moderate party) Last election result: 30.1% (107 seats) Identifier: (m) Ideology: Liberalism, conservatism. Chairman: Anna Kinberg Batra Formally Moderata samlingspartiet. Formerly a traditional European conservative party that valued things like low taxes, family values and defense spending, they rebranded themselves as "the new worker's party" in 2005 and won the 2006 elections after forming a four-party coalition with their fellow liberal-conservative parties. Their rethoric is sometimes curiously social-democratic, but they are a solidly neoliberal/conservative party that has been hard at work financing their tax cuts with selling off public assets during their eight years in power. Have used the recent immigration crisis as an excuse to slash entry salaries and/or introduce extra super low income jobs, further exploiting the poor as a cheap source of labour. quote:
Wants: Money. Voter base: Men, Money. Liberalerna (the liberal people's party) Last election result: 7.1% (24 seats) Identifier: (L) Ideology: Liberalism, social liberalism. Chairman: Jan Björklund (minister for education and deputy prime minister) Historically, these guys have always been liberals in the traditional sense (it's even in their party name). These days though they mainly define themselves by a few issues: most importantly, schools, nuclear power and NATO membership. quote:
Wants: Liberal stuff, like the freedom to choose between 15 different kinds of toothpaste, or what sort of vulture capitalist private school you'd like to sell your children to enroll your children in. Voter base: Educated men and women. Presumably. Centerpartiet (the centre party) Last election result: 6.6% (23 seats) Identifier: (c) Ideology: Liberalism, agrarianism, social liberalism, libertarianism, juche, conservatism, fascism, socialism with chinese characteristics, republicanism, anarchism, nationalism. Chairwoman: Annie Lööf (minister for enterprise) Was known as Bondeförbundet ("the farmer's league") until 1957 and used to be a staunch ally of the social democrats, but has constantly marched rightwards politically since the 70's. On paper they're some kind of green social-liberal party but their rethoric in recent years has been almost libertarian at times. They really don't cater to the rural population anymore, but rather seem to focus on the economic elite in the cities. quote:Benito Hitlerstalin posted: Wants: To be put out of their misery. Voter base: Rural Sweden and Inner City Stockholm. Kristdemokraterna (the christian democrats) Last election result: 5.6% (19 seats) Identifier: (kd) Ideology: Christian democracy. Chairman: Ebba Busch Thor A fairly new (formed 1964, entered parliament 1985) conservative party with the usual Christian moral values. Mostly notable for being the only Swedish parliamental party that opposes gay marriage. Has a solid support from their very small voter base and while they are sort of insignificant they are also unlikely to get voted out of parliament. Tried desperately to make abortion an issue, but thank gently caress they failed. The first political party to steal/copy suggestions policies from SD. Clearly copying the playbook from the christian right in the USA. A hateful bunch of people who hate gays and transpeople and anyone who doesn't go for the monogamous core family patriarchal structure. quote:Benito Hitlerstalin posted: Voter base: Practicing christians, Moderates Party members/voters. [/quote] Sverigedemokraterna (the Sweden democrats) Last election result: 5.7% (20 seats) Identifier: (sd) Chairman: Jimmie Åkesson A party that used to consist of skinheads and neo-nazi's, these guys cleaned their act, suited up, and are now pretending not to be total racist homophobes, with varied success. Every couple of months some idiot tweets something offensive or gets caught saying something real drat stupid on a forum or facebook or something, and promply gets booted out by Babyface Åkesson to maintain their purity.. Was first seated in parliament as a result of the the 2010 elections. As far as European racist parties go they're not quite as bad as some of their cousins, but the rethoric is the usual hate for EU, muslims, beggars and foreigners in general as well as waxing nostalgic for the social democratic golden age. The only party that not surprisingly has constantly worked for stricter immigration laws, arguably wise in hindsight, but for all the wrong reasons. Miljöpartiet (the green party) Last election result: 7.3% (25 seats) Identifier: (mp) Ideology: Green politics, social liberalism. Spokespersons: Gustav Fridolin and Lövin something A centrist green party which first entered parliament in 1988. Obviously they're mainly concerned with environmental issues but on the side they have a rather liberal agenda, supporting private schools etc. They also have a reputation for harboring oddballs that believe in chemtrail conspiracies, anti-vaxxers etc. Apparently this party has been very attractive for people with Islamic sympathies, and who had managed to reach top positions within the party, which recently exploded in their collective burqas when it was shown that their housing minister had ties with radical islamic organisations in Turkey, and when another high ranking politician in their party named Yasri Khan refused to shake hands with a woman, and then proceded to bitch about how dehumanising the media attention he got for being a sexist rear end in a top hat was, and lamented that that sure wouldn't have happened if he wasn't a muslim. As if Löven wouldnt had sparked a shitstorm if he refused to shake hands with a minority/woman. I'm keeping this bit from the old posterity because LOL quote:Benito Hitlerstalin posted: Åsa Romson suffered from permanent foot in mouth disease and was so politically inept it would be funny if it wasn't sad. And Gustaf Fridolin, who knew that Khan didn't want to touch women, "didn't realise that some people might be offended by this". Political prodigy indeed. That comment perfectly encapsulates the problem with the left,they're outraged about any perceived misogyny or oppression from western culture but they ignore oppressive cultural practices to not seem racist. A trait they share with V. Åsa Romson was later deemed so terrible they switched her out with someone who wasn't a walking dumpster fire. Wants: Peace on earth, sustainable environment, pyramid healing centers, drum circles, etc. Voter base: Young educated women, islamists Socialdemokraterna (the social democrats) Last election result: 30.7% (112 seats) Identifier: (s) Ideology: Social democracy, social liberalism. Chairman: Stefan Löfven The social democrats ruled Sweden mostly unopposed for decades during the latter half of the 20th century, with only brief interruptions. Occasionally they enjoyed an absolute parliamental majority on their own, but their last election result was their worst since 1920, which has triggered kind of an existential crisis. After switching chairmen three times in a few years their current strategy seems to be to say and do as little as possible in order to avoid rocking the boat. Nobody knows what they want these days. quote:Benito Hitlerstalin posted: Wants: Power. Voter base: Unionized blue collar workers. Vänsterpartiet (the left party) Last election result: 5.6% (19 seats) Identifier: (v) Ideology: Socialism, Feminism. Chairman: Jonas Sjöstedt Formerly the communist party; rebranded just the "left" party after the fall of the USSR. They're currently not very radical in their rethoric and are focusing on a single issue: stopping profits in the private-owned parts of public social services. quote:Benito Hitlerstalin posted: Shares a blind spot with MP when it comes to oppressive cultural practices from foreign cultures. Ostracize their own when they don't turn a blind eye to said cultural practices. Wants: Mandatory gay marriage and the complete destruction of Swedish society. Voter base: Social Democrats. Parties of note outside the parliament Feministiskt initiativ (the feminist initiative) Last election result: 5.49% in the European Parliament elections of 2014 Identifier: (fi) Chairwoman: Gudrun Schyman A new-ish party focused on feminist issues, peace efforts and social justice in general. They won a major victory in the EU parliament elections this spring and got a seat there, but Their polling results aren't great. Piratpartiet (the pirate party) Last election result: 2.23% in the European Parliament elections of 2014 Identifier: (pp) The original pirate party. Entered the European parliament in the wake of the The Pirate Bay raid and subsequent court case, and then promptly lost their seat in the next election since nobody cared anymore. Their chances of winning a seat in the national parliament are slim to none. Svenskarnas Parti (party for the Swedes) Last election result: N/A Identifier: SvP Actual honest-to-god nazis. They won't get any national parliament seats but might grab a few municipal seats in a few minor towns. Not really significant but they've been the subject of much political analysis. Kalle Anka-partiet (the Donald Duck party) Last election result: they usually get a few hundred votes, sometimes upwards of a thousand Political platform: free liquor and wider sidewalks Since blank votes aren't counted separately anymore, you can't vote blank to protest against the system, so people tend to vote for parties like this one instead. Hot issues - immigration policy: Still the biggest issue in politics these days, we recently passed stricter migrant laws. It finally dawned on everyone that strong welfare and open borders do not mix well. SD's politics have been stolen/adopted by other parties, either proving the proverb about a racist clock being right twice a day or that SD have a keen insight into immigration politics. The only parties that voted against thee new - the schools; should the national government take back control from the municipalities? - environmental issues - social justice and women's rights - Healthcare situation is getting worse by the day. Nurses that are understaffed and underpaid, operations being canceled, operating rooms not being used, wards overflowing with patients, ER's full, people with life threatening problems being told to take painkillers etc etc. -Recent restructering within the police force which was supposed to increase efficency did the absolute opposite. Situation is apparently intolerable for a lot of police officers. - infrastructure: car traffic is on the decline but we keep building horrifically expensive highways, and making the trains run on time again after the latest round of privatizations seems like a Herculean task Currently, the polls are looking like the right-wing alliance will lose its government position and the social democrats will come back into power, albeit heavily dependent on the green party and the left party. This OP is obviously heavily colored by my own opinions, but I'm not picky, so if you want to contribute a party description or something about the political situation There you have it, post away. Or don't. Oh also, please keep the posting here in English, since some people might know one Scandinavian language, but not any other. Links and quotes from articles or clips or w/e are of course ok in their original language, just don't go overbord with the bork bork, ja?
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Pre-emptive call for ignoring and/or banning Ligur. How many pages do we manage this time around before this is once more the official d&d shitshow?
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 18:43 |
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Retarded Goatee posted:Pre-emptive call for ignoring and/or banning Ligur. How many pages do we manage this time around before this is once more the official d&d shitshow? I thought Finns were un-Germanic untermenschen not allowed in Scandanavian club to begin with?
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 18:56 |
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Have you guys considered leaving EU and forming your own Scandic Union with Scotland?
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 20:02 |
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Swedish housing bubble is still going strong.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 20:05 |
Prominent Norwegian politicians: Sylvi Listhaug (FrP) Jonas Gahr Støre (AP) Erna Solberg (H) Knut Arild Hareide (KrF) Jens Stoltenberg (previous leader of AP)
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Puistokemisti posted:Have you guys considered leaving EU and forming your own Scandic Union with Scotland? as a Scot i just want to warn you scandis in advance that in the event of scottish independence you guys should prepare for us inviting ourselves to all your nordic parties and assuming that we're all very close friends we're probably going to try and pronounce your vowels and everything it's going to be painful to watch e: your countries are pretty cool though, please don't descend into trumpism like the shitshow down south of us is currently trying to do
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Puistokemisti posted:Have you guys considered leaving EU and forming your own Scandic Union with Scotland? We actually have various Nordic collaborations besides EU, and given the torrent of social media on the topic this weekend, I think the majority of Swedes at least would welcome Scotland into them. For example, the Nordic Council of Ministers, which is kind of a tiny EU light. http://www.norden.org/en/nordic-council-of-ministers Scotland is basically Norway but dubbed into weird English, right? But Scandinavians in general are supreme suckers for flattery, and will go bananas if a random international celebrity mentions any of our countries. A whole country wanting to be part of our derpy cold club? People are already salivating over the thought. lilljonas fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Jun 27, 2016 |
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Puistokemisti posted:Have you guys considered leaving EU and forming your own Scandic Union with Scotland? Don't loving tempt me, kompis. Also the thread needs this in the OP IMMEDIATELY: loving OBLIGATORY FOR READING THIS THREAD
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Ligur is Laughed at yes, never ignored
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Angepain posted:as a Scot i just want to warn you scandis in advance that in the event of scottish independence you guys should prepare for us inviting ourselves to all your nordic parties and assuming that we're all very close friends Considering we allready have oil, gas and disgusting food I don't really see why we need you.
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Alhazred posted:Prominent Norwegian politicians: Incidentally, back in 1969 then-Prime Minister Per Borten had some journalists come to his farm for an interview and let himself be photographed like this:
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Very timely resurrection of the thread with Swedish police spending an hour recently to figure out if person was Danish or drunk.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 21:47 |
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kalstrams posted:Very timely resurrection of the thread with Swedish police spending an hour recently to figure out if person was Danish or drunk. Turned out he was just drunk. Sweden draws a sigh of relief and clamps down with even stricter border inspections.
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McCloud posted:- the schools; should the national government take back control from the municipalities? My Swedish skills are pretty bad, if some goon would like to write even a small effortpost about what the Hell is going on with school in Sweden, it'd be appreciated
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Alhazred posted:Prominent Norwegian politicians:
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Kopijeger posted:Currently the Secretary General of NATO. Why did anyone think this would be a good idea?
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# ? Jun 28, 2016 00:11 |
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Scandipol thread is återuppstånden. It was sorely missed
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Alhazred posted:Considering we allready have oil, gas and disgusting food I don't really see why we need you. To gently caress the English further.
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Angepain posted:as a Scot i just want to warn you scandis in advance that in the event of scottish independence you guys should prepare for us inviting ourselves to all your nordic parties and assuming that we're all very close friends just give me some haggis, and im fine.
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McCloud posted:Why did anyone think this would be a good idea? No idea, but apparently Borten would often play up how "folksy" and down-to-earth he was. Another amusing anecdote: A couple of days after the photo was taken, queen Elizabeth II (then on an official visit to our country) and then-king Olav V visited the farm as guests of the Prime Minister. The Daily Mirror ran the photo with the caption "Now the Norwegian Prime Minister is ready to receive the Queen."
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Rappaport posted:My Swedish skills are pretty bad, if some goon would like to write even a small effortpost about what the Hell is going on with school in Sweden, it'd be appreciated Anything specific? I'm working in higher education, so I'm not 100% versed in the history and technicalities of primary and secondary education, but the thing with the municipalities vs national government controlling primary schools took effect in 1991. It was generally unpopular among teachers, and looking back, a lot of people on both sides of the political spectrum (and teachers) agree that the municipalities have been bad at providing an equal primary education across the country. Basically, the reasoning to give the reins of public primary and secondary education to the municipalities was that decentralization, compared to managing everything from the national government, would give more power local government to adjust education to the wishes of local parents and teachers. This would be done by defining the expected learning outcomes but manage the methods of reaching them less, and by giving the municipalties a blanket funding and then letting them solve the rest. However, one problem was that the learning outcomes were too vague and up to interpretation, and the municipalities got quite a lot of leeway in how to solve the budgeting. But overall, a lot of politicians on both sides agreed that it was a way to go forward, even though the left ended up voting it through. One result was that municipalities who were responsible for more expensive schools started to cut down the costs, especially as Sweden entered a financial crisis in the early 90's. This had negative effects on schools that had high expenses because, well, their pupils migh need extra support. By losing the national overview and giving reins to local municipilaties to adminster the schools budgets, you opened up the temptation to cover other budget deficiencies through cutting school costs. I went through primary school in late 80's and the 90's, and school budget cut-downs were both noticable and a major talking point. It was not uncommon for us to have textbooks that were more or less falling apart from previous use, something that was unheard of a few years earlier. Skolverket (the Swedish National Agency for Education) did an evaluation in 2012, and it agreed with the critics in that the municipalities would often think of the national goals (that were supposed to guarantee that education is equivalent across the country) as more of a "lofty, idealistic goal", and would not prioritize school budgets in a way that made sure to achieve them. In practical terms, making primary education a municipality matter meant that areas that put an emphasis on edcuation and used their good schools as a way to market their area (say, academic cities like Lund, or affluent municipalties surrounding the major cities) would secure more funding for their schools, compared to poorer municipalities with populations that were less interested in schooling. Basically, it works as a way to cement inequalities, as you're less likely to get a good education if your surrounding is poor and/or prioritize other things than education. So now you have a messy situation where Swedish school results are going down (or not, depending on who you ask), something needs to be done (or not, depending on who you ask), and one of those things could be to give back the reins to the national government (or not, depending on who you ask). It's not even a clear ideological division, as parties on both sides are for and against a re-nationalization of the primary and secondary schools. However, it's a bit funny to see that the left, despite driving through the change, is more negative towards it now, and the right having both some of the most ardent supporters of a change (the Liberals) and the most dug-in detractors (the Moderates). It's also a divided subject among researchers and high ranking officials in government and in the unions, though one of the teachers' unions (LRF) are vocal proponents for a re-nationalization. But yea, tl;dr - it's a mess. E: no, the funniest thing about this whole issue is Jan Björklund suddenly marketing himself as the white knight of returning public schools to their proper place, under national management. Despite not lifting a finger about it before. Despite being Minister of Education for a remarkable seven years. But speaking of education, I think that the change in management of public primary and secondary schools won't be a major issue for a while as the debate seems to have died down a bit. Rather, I see a resurgence in the discussion about the shape and form of private schools, as both the subject of how to deal with the religious schools (no matter denomination) and the layer of private schools that are both profitable and underperforming. Those are much more emotional and ideological questions that seems to stir "the masses" in a way that is way, way more appealing to media, and politicians who are interested in raising their profiles through said media. lilljonas fucked around with this message at 11:44 on Jun 28, 2016 |
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Since no one else is going to do a write-up of Danish political parties, I might as well. In descending order of votes: The Social Democrats, led by Helle Thorning-Schmidt, have taken a beating in recent years. They are however still the largest party in parliament. Their main ideological plank is getting into power, and being seen around famous people and powerful world leaders. Their main supporters are people hoping the party returns to what it was 30 years ago. The Danish People's Party needs little introduction, having made their presence known on the European stage as their support has grown. Should the Social Democrats once again fail to address the issues which most worry their electorate, they could easily become the largest party in parliament in the next election. Should this happen, the party promises to subsidize pork consumption, and make its consumption mandatory in schools. The party is also a great supporter of sports and outdoors life, and see it as a way to take unruly kids off the streets and teach them discipline and order, and hopefully win glory and honor for Denmark at international competitions. A traditional liberal party and the party of farmers, they are for free markets and opposed to government intervention. The main focus of the current government has been to do everything in their power to support Danish farmers, through deregulation and redefining agricultural lands as nature. Whether this is enough to prevent a further loss of voters to the Danish People's Party only time will tell. Chances are, the powerful but increasingly threatened pig-farming lobby will lend their support to the Danish People's Party, as they are ideologically primed to support them no matter the cost. The Red-Green Alliance is the primary party of left-leaning youths, attracted by the political memes Johanne Schmidt-Nielsen posts straight from parliament and Johanne herself. Has seen strong growth in recent years, due to the failures of traditional left-leaning parties. A new political party, the Liberal Alliance has been created as a response to the right-wing shift in Danish politics. The party is the main supporter of racial and sexual equality in parliament. A Danish version of the German Alternative für Deutschland, the party is one to watch out for. Their leader was formally a member of the Radical Left, which he was forced to leave after an intra-party struggle over whether the party should continue to be internationalist in the face of unchecked immigration. Wants Denmark to leave the EU and pursue a strong independent Danish state for Danes. The Radical Left is a traditional Danish communist party, which has lost a lot of support in recent years, especially after the intra-party struggle which created The Alternative. The party has now elected the young Morten Østergaard in an attempt to attract the youth vote and distinguish itself further from The Alternative. What is there to say? The Socialist People's Party chased the populist vote but couldn't keep up, and now the party is falling apart. Their voters will likely be subsumed into The Alternative as Denmark lurches more and more to the right. Once upon a time a powerful ally of the near-absolute king, the current party has seen better days. In recent years, the party has attempted to ride the populist wave, but all this has managed to do is shed their traditional supporters in the Whiskey Belt, who would prefer everything to just not change, ever.
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what do you guys think about immigrants?
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Geriatric Pirate posted:what do you guys think about immigrants?
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Nice effort post, but it's a little out of date.A Buttery Pastry posted:Since no one else is going to do a write-up of Danish political parties, I might as well. In descending order of votes: Their leader is now Mette Frederiksen, since HTS went to England after her defeat in June of last year. A Buttery Pastry posted:
Their leader is now Pernille Skipper. Well, leader is the wrong word since they're all a bunch of hippies, so it's called a "spokesperson" instead. A Buttery Pastry posted:
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brylcreem posted:Nice effort post, but it's a little out of date.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:So what you're saying is, everything else about my post is 100% correct? Close enough. Kartoffel kartoffel.
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Don't you mean kamelåsa kamelåsa?
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doverhog posted:Don't you mean kamelsa kamelsa?
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I keep hearing that Scandinavia is going further and further right wing as it continues to privatize its publicly owned property and services and cuts down in benefits. Is this true?
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punk rebel ecks posted:I keep hearing that Scandinavia is going further and further right wing as it continues to privatize its publicly owned property and services and cuts down in benefits. Is this true? It is true for Sweden the last two, two and a half decades, at least. Or rather, some common right wing positions are become more "standard", an other common left wing positions are also becoming more "standard", but more so of the former than the latter. The Social Democrats these days are defending positions regarding privatizations that would be considered radical borgeoise propaganda when I was small, and at the same time the right parties generally stopped singularly appealing to wealthy inner city elites. Basically, the Social Democrats are middle-of-the-road centrists with a few flashes of red now and then. Meanwhile the right parties' general position has shifted to agree that the Swedish Model is good, and should not be torn down into a libertarian Thunderdome, but would be better managed by the right, with changes to benefit employed people. This is most visible in issues such as public insurance (which got much worse for permanently disabled, and patients with long term illnesses), the changes promoting privatized health care and education, the tax rebates for household work (which was definitely a right-wing agenda that the Social Democrats have accepted), and general tax rebates for income-earners that were kept after the Social Democrats and Greens took over. All these were pushed by the right the last decades, and were initially resisted by the left, but are now still in place despite the change in government.
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lilljonas posted:It is true for Sweden the last two, two and a half decades, at least. Same for Denmark except that most parties, SocDem included, would very much like a Libertarian Thunderdome.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:
OF all the strange things to make an issue out of, they want to subsidize pork and force kids to eat it. If anything they should be forcing kids to eat more vegan food.
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McCloud posted:
Muslims. Add muslims to the mix and it makes sense. A Moustache twirling evil kind of sense.
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I love talking to middle aged people, who will tell you that there is no discipline in swedish schools, and i will tell them one of the reasons is because we no longer lock "trouble kids"(children with adhd, with a bad home situation) away in a cupboard any more.
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lilljonas posted:It is true for Sweden the last two, two and a half decades, at least. Or rather, some common right wing positions are become more "standard", an other common left wing positions are also becoming more "standard", but more so of the former than the latter. The Social Democrats these days are defending positions regarding privatizations that would be considered radical borgeoise propaganda when I was small, and at the same time the right parties generally stopped singularly appealing to wealthy inner city elites. Great post. Thank you. lilljonas posted:the tax rebates for household work What's this mean?
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punk rebel ecks posted:What's this mean? If you hire people to do housework like carpentry, cleaning, whatever you can write it off in the taxes.
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why did you do this, op Buller posted:If you hire people to do housework like carpentry, cleaning, whatever you can write it off in the taxes. It's basically a tax rebate for the rich, with the explanation that it "creates jobs" and "discourages tax evasion". The amount of tax crowns spent per job created in this way is exceptionally high, though.
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HEIL \o_ YOU CALLED I HENFECORTH HAVE ARRIVED WHAT IS THE TOPIC OF DISCUSSION
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