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Owns. Do you luuuuuurve japan, but don't want to have to put up with obnoxious japanese people being involved with your great nipponese media? READ AN 800 PAGE BOOK ABOUT JAPAN BY A WHITE GUY problem solved.  If youre intellectually only a minor deal there is also a miniseries with richard chamberlain and toshiro mifune, so you know what to do.  One warning for prospective readers tho: do NOT under any circumstances try to understand the logic behind what any of the japanese characters are doing. The author had to plumb the depths of the abyss of the samurai soul to get em this realistic so you don't have to. So just enjoy dont try to get it, cuz he who fights monsters and all that. Particularly torunaga is intended to be almost totally opaque. Thats how you have to write an evil genius. Do not try to "get" him or torunaga it up IRL you will go to jail for a really long time.
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Very shogun imo
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Source your quotes OP
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Tolkien minority posted:Source your quotes OP ORIGINAL CONTENT DONUT STEAL
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This is what Japan is really like. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfAmPGhcNLQ
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*Fires an arrow through a curtain at the "5" button, doesn't look where it lands but totally sure it hit 5*
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Jan 12, 2017 08:28
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It's a really good book, same with Tai-Pan.
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Jan 12, 2017 08:39
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I read most of his books in middle school and early high school. They are pretty good mindless adventure books.
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Volcott posted:This is what Japan is really like. Or at least was like. But yeh word. Also scuba school sucks posted:*Fires an arrow through a curtain at the "5" button, doesn't look where it lands but totally sure it hit 5* Word.
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Japan is really more Chrysanthemum and the Sword But the part in Shogun where they boil that dude to make his skin into a drum was pretty rad
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i like james clavell no he's not perfect, but his books are fun adventures through south east asia, an area not often explored in *white* fiction plus his real strength seems to be hong kong, so of course shogun was bound to be less accurate the only problem i have with him is that all his books end the same way and i hate they way they end tons of intricate plot points all seem to be coming to a head and instead of resolving them he just has some giant force of nature kill everyone. typhoon, earthquake, etc. its pretty frustrating and unrewarding edit: i like the samurai who always carries his sword in his left hand to demonstrate that he's literally always ready to use it
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hell yeah
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I don't know how ironic you're being OP, but I just finished reading Shogun a couple of weeks ago and it's baller as hell. I don't know how accurate it is, and maybe the writing isn't very artistic, but it's a hell of a toboggan ride.
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Jan 12, 2017 10:05
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I read this book when I was 16 and only remember the part where he goes down to the shanties to visit with his former comrades and is appalled at how filthy and lovely they are.
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Jan 12, 2017 10:51
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Zombiepop posted:It's a really good book, same with Tai-Pan.
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i hate white men and japan what about me
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Nefarious 2.0 posted:i hate white men and japan what about me I'd say you're probably Korean.
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Jan 12, 2017 12:25
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RaySmuckles posted:
HOLY poo poo THIS IS INCREDIBLE WRITING
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Jan 12, 2017 12:26
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-I liked the scene where a whole bunch of samurai lined up and had one on one fights one after another because the leaders were arguing or something like the guys just had their guys kill each other all orderly until someone said "ah well ok, maybe youre right"
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Jan 12, 2017 12:35
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My favorite Shogun character is that whiney wife the hero gets landed with who keeps threatening to commit suicide every time he rolls his eyes at her.
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My favorite shogun character is the one who wears the orange jumpsuit and is actually a fox demon who believes the power of friendship can overcome anything
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I read shotgun and was disappointed.
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I like the ninja with the big titties who kicks high
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12gaugelobotomy posted:I read shotgun and was disappointed. Same, only I also misread James Clavell as "Henry Cavill" so I came in expecting to see a hunky guy shooting guns 
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Shogun was good and I like most of his stuff. King Rat is a very good read imo Baxter fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Jan 12, 2017 |
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Toranaga does not want to be Shogun Toranaga does not want to be Shogun Toranaga does not want to be Shogun Toranaga: "I wanted to be Shogun all along"
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Whirlwind was p good too. Helicopter business simulator BUT WHAT ABOUT THE SPAAAAARES
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Also there was a scene where Blackthorne was in a brothel or something and they were trying to find out what he was into, being unfamiliar with monogomy. At one point when he wasn't picking up on it the characters discuss just casually bringing in a duck "to see how he reacts to it because some people like that kind of thing" and all in all it was pretty surreal. It was pretty good though. If you liked The Last Samurai you'll like it even if James Clavell has some weird things to tell you about Japan that may or may not be accurate.
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Jan 12, 2017 15:23
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Has anyone seen the movie? It's the full book in movie form, 5 hours long. The main character is basically Will Riker.
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He was offered a woman but wouldn't do anything because of western culture so they assumed he was gay and offered him a boy which he got super offended by. Nonplussed, they thought he might be like a Korean and pondered offering him a duck.
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I read this book when I was in high school and dont remember anything from it but now I'm a samurai irl
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I never could figure out if James Clavell was actually really racist or did a good job portraying 16th century westerners.RaySmuckles posted:edit: i like the samurai who always carries his sword in his left hand to demonstrate that he's literally always ready to use it same, except with my penis
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The Phlegmatist posted:I never could figure out if James Clavell was actually really racist or did a good job portraying 16th century westerners. He was in a Japanese POW camp and became a weeaboo orientalist there. His King Rat is set in a camp and is also an excellent novel.
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i clicked on the thread and tried to read the OP and it just kind of turned into a static haze and all i could think was "wait this isnt about shotguns" then i reread the title and oh anime again
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I read Shogun when I was like, 12 or 13 and I enjoyed it very much
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Every time I was forced to go antiquing as a child I'd run into a moldy copy of that book. I'd pick it up sometimes and turn to a page but there was never anything much to look at. He must have been very successful in the 80s if it got optioned though so good on him.
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8-Bit Scholar posted:I read Shogun when I was like, 12 or 13 and I enjoyed it very much I'm pretty sure that is the best age to read James Clavell. I read Shogun then and loved it. Read it again in my late 20s and was like "wait, is this racist?"
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*dons cock ring*
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