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COVID-19 Edition! Who What When Where Why How? The 2020 NHL Draft is time time of year when all 31 NHL teams select babyfaced players to project their hopes and dreams on, only to watch them bust in a few years. This year, because of corona-chan, the draft will be held sometime in the future in an extremely online manner. Because of said virus, the Draft Lottery is different and more stupid than ever. Alright, so who's eligible for this shinding? ”wikipedia” posted:Ice hockey players born between January 1, 2000, and September 15, 2002, are eligible for selection in the 2020 NHL Entry Draft. Additionally, un-drafted, non-North American players born in 1999 are eligible for the draft; and those players who were drafted in the 2018 NHL Entry Draft, but not signed by an NHL team and who were born after June 30, 2000, are also eligible to re-enter the draft. So who's #1? The overwhelming favorite is Alexis Lafreniere – 6'1", 192 lb, LW, Rimouski Oceanic, QMJHL () 52 GP, 35/77/112 “last word on hockey” posted:Skating If whoever lands the #1 pick really believes in position or age theory and massively overthinks this selection, they will most likely select Quinton Byfield - 6'4", 214 lb, C, Sudbury Wolves, OHL, 45 GP, 32/52/84 “last word on hockey” posted:Skating Which (un)fortunate teams gets to draft these young men? This lotto format is so stupid. Why the gently caress is 1OA going to a team with 79 points? gently caress the NHL, gently caress the Rangers, gently caress. Poor one out for Detroit, who were objectively abysmal but will pick at 4 and Ottawa, who could have had 1/2, but will end up with 3/5 instead. Tim Stutzle isn’t bad, but what could have been Congrats to Lafreniere for presumably torching the Flyers for the next 15 years. gently caress. Who else is good? Cory Pronman from the Athletic Steve Kornianos from Draft Anlayst Tankathon.com Anything else I should know This is somewhat of a down year for lottery-talent defensemen outside of Jamie Drysdale, which means there could be a massive run on forwards early and often, or some hilarious reach picks from defense-needy club. Yarsolav Askarov is also supposedly the best goalie prospect in forever, so watchout for the rare Top-10 goalie pick. Spencer Knight went 14? last year and Askarov will probably go higher than that, considering his talent and the noted lack of defensemen. Goalies are voodoo. Because of the whole global pandemic thing, all the post season tournaments got cancelled, along with some scouting contracts, so this means some/most teams don’t have quite as much info as they would like. What does this mean for the draft? I dunno. This could result in some very off-board moves, as teams really like a local kid they saw a lot of and have more info on I hate this loving coronavirus lottery so much Philly should always host the draft. https://www.instagram.com/p/pw9p34EbfZ/ Happy Drafting Nissin Cup Nudist fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Aug 11, 2020 |
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The coronavirus lottery was awesome. I liked it a lot!
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# ? Aug 11, 2020 01:00 |
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Goalies are voodoo, so watch the Oilers end up drafting Askarov and having him never play an NHL game
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# ? Aug 11, 2020 01:10 |
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Shouldn't Byfields stat line be 84 instead of 82?
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# ? Aug 11, 2020 02:03 |
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Scaramouche posted:Shouldn't Byfields stat line be 84 instead of 82? eh whatever, math is overrated fixed, thanks
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# ? Aug 11, 2020 02:05 |
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Devils should draft Askarov so all three tri-state area teams have a Russian Goalie rivalry for the next decade.
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# ? Aug 11, 2020 04:27 |
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https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/1293603262944489474
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# ? Aug 12, 2020 18:43 |
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RIP Coyotes. They don't have a 1, 2, or 3 in 2020 and their 1 and 3 in 2021. Yowza Wonder if Chyaka would have survived this if he hadn't quit first Nissin Cup Nudist fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Aug 26, 2020 |
# ? Aug 26, 2020 19:33 |
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Did that supposed super sports job of his materialize?
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# ? Aug 26, 2020 19:40 |
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https://twitter.com/CapFriendly/status/1302426282353983489
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# ? Sep 6, 2020 03:07 |
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Scott Wheeler updated his Top 100 Big Board, not a big fan of Stutzle. https://theathletic.com/2019544/2020/09/21/wheeler-updated-ranking-for-the-2020-nhl-drafts-top-100-prospects/ Also a beat write mock draft https://theathletic.com/2072618/2020/09/21/nhl-staff-mock-draft-2020-changes-in-the-top-three-plus-an-audit-by-nhl-scouts/
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# ? Sep 25, 2020 01:25 |
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Even Corey Pronman fans must think "and why should we care what Scott Wheeler says?"
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# ? Sep 25, 2020 01:33 |
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Im guessing the Wings take Rossi. It will be fun to see who takes Askarov too high
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# ? Sep 25, 2020 23:43 |
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Hand Knit posted:Even Corey Pronman fans must think "and why should we care what Scott Wheeler says?" His origin story is basically “concussions destroyed his brain in high school but he still wanted to do something hockey related so his parents paid all his expenses for years to watch minor league games and write articles for free” right? He has no record of success and his writing is completely unmemorable. At least Pronman had the distinction of “guy who didn’t underrate small forwards in 2011,” even if all he has now is desperate attempts to get clicks by claiming the consensus #2 is better than the #1 every other year.
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# ? Sep 26, 2020 03:31 |
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I didn’t realize this forum had turned on Pronman. Other than Laine, who is another second overall that he thought was better than the first?
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# ? Sep 27, 2020 15:46 |
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I appreciate Pronman because he atleast writes an article every year looking back at his draft rankings and identifying where he was wrong
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clean ayers act posted:I appreciate Pronman because he atleast writes an article every year looking back at his draft rankings and identifying where he was wrong Pronman is willing to talk about how he evaluates, which I really like. However, he's very much someone who just rose to prominence just by being online. When it comes to the description part of scouting—identifying the characteristics, strengths, and weaknesses of particular players—I don't know that I actually trust him. Like, I've never gotten anything from him that's impressed me in the same way that I was impressed by Craig loving Button sitting down and talking about MacKinnon/Drouin/Jones for half an hour. Like sure, Button got the evaluation wrong (he preferred Jones at 1-1 for "can't teach size" reasons), but he was absolutely great at the descriptive part. I've yet to see anything like that from Pronman. e: which reminds me, for Pronman misses at the top of the draft, he had Drouin 1-1 that year.
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# ? Sep 27, 2020 20:59 |
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Hand Knit posted:Pronman is willing to talk about how he evaluates, which I really like. However, he's very much someone who just rose to prominence just by being online. When it comes to the description part of scouting—identifying the characteristics, strengths, and weaknesses of particular players—I don't know that I actually trust him. Like, I've never gotten anything from him that's impressed me in the same way that I was impressed by Craig loving Button sitting down and talking about MacKinnon/Drouin/Jones for half an hour. Like sure, Button got the evaluation wrong (he preferred Jones at 1-1 for "can't teach size" reasons), but he was absolutely great at the descriptive part. I've yet to see anything like that from Pronman. Seth Jones is a very good hockey player, so Button wasn't off by much. And tbf, it took MacKinnon 4-5 years to become the 90+ point monster he is today. Drouin is a woof tho
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What impresses me about Pronman is his willingness to go back and reevaluate, like what clean ayers said. I have never really noticed the descriptions in the same way you said, mostly because ten paragraphs on a prospect does make my eyes glaze over, unless they are connected to the Leafs. Does this make my opinion worthless? Perhaps! But, Pronman writes content in a way that keeps my attention, so take that as you will. As for 2013, wasn’t it a pretty tight 1-3? I don’t remember MacKinnon being the overwhelming #1.
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# ? Sep 27, 2020 21:36 |
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ThinkTank posted:Did that supposed super sports job of his materialize? There has been zero news about him signing with another team.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Seth Jones is a very good hockey player, so Button wasn't off by much. The point is that Button accurately described Jones, but when it came to preferring one player over another, he gave really lovely reasons (big body presence, leadership spirit, etc). I trust myself to prefer one player over another based on accurate descriptions. What I know I absolutely cannot do is accurately describe a player on the level that an actual scout does. For similar reasons, then, I'm not all that bothered by things like overvaluing size, or undervaluing small guys who can skate well. Nissin Cup Nudist posted:And tbf, it took MacKinnon 4-5 years to become the 90+ point monster he is today. Drouin has yet to come all that close to having a season as productive as MacKinnon's age 18 season. I think that Pronman has issued a fairly serious recrimination about his evaluation of Drouin, saying he really undervalued skating and didn't appreciate how Drouin's ability to hold possession—especially coming off the boards—depended on playing smaller junior players. That ability to connect "possession" to a set of identifiable technical skills in a particular context is something that I find far more valuable than someone with an understanding of analytics saying "this person does possession good therefore they are good." Hand Knit fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Sep 27, 2020 |
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Twin Cinema posted:What impresses me about Pronman is his willingness to go back and reevaluate, like what clean ayers said. I have never really noticed the descriptions in the same way you said, mostly because ten paragraphs on a prospect does make my eyes glaze over, unless they are connected to the Leafs. Does this make my opinion worthless? Perhaps! But, Pronman writes content in a way that keeps my attention, so take that as you will. I think Jones was actually the top ranked prospect by CSS, and then you had the narrative of him growing up in Denver and being an Avs fan so it was fun to imagine him going there. But then Mac went first and Florida surprised people by taking Barkov, and Drouin was seen to be a can't miss talent who could be #1, so Tampa took him. Everyone thought Nashville was finally going to get an elite forward prospect, but they were smart to take Jones.
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# ? Sep 28, 2020 01:15 |
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the draft rumors are flying around, and i would personally like one lucas raymond or marco rossi
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corn on the cop posted:the draft rumors are flying around, and i would personally like one lucas raymond or marco rossi You get... Marco Raymond, Mason Raymond's italian cousin
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# ? Sep 28, 2020 22:55 |
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Scaramouche posted:You get... Marco Raymond, Mason Raymond's italian cousin Also crashes awkwardly in to the end boards on every rush, but with more wild hand gestures.
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# ? Sep 29, 2020 00:06 |
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My daughter, who is just starting first year university, was in Justin Barron's class all through public school, in case anyone is wondering what the next tier of feeling old is after you've adjusted to all the players already in the league being younger than you.
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andy_social posted:My daughter, who is just starting first year university, was in Justin Barron's class all through public school, in case anyone is wondering what the next tier of feeling old is after you've adjusted to all the players already in the league being younger than you. I can wait for this. Right now, I am at the stage where players my age are considered veterans.
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# ? Sep 29, 2020 01:29 |
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Players my age are either retired or everyone is bitching that they suck and need to retire
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# ? Sep 29, 2020 04:33 |
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my draft class would have been 2007, alongside spry veterans like pk subban and kevin shattenkirk
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# ? Sep 29, 2020 05:10 |
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When the Wings last won in 2008, I went to Game 2 of the Stanley Cup Finals, I ended up in a pizza line with five top prospects, there in Detroit to film a thing for Coach's Corner. Got to split a Joe Louis Arena pizza with one of those guys, Steven Stamkos.
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AsInHowe posted:When the Wings last won in 2008, I went to Game 2 of the Stanley Cup Finals, I ended up in a pizza line with five top prospects, there in Detroit to film a thing for Coach's Corner. Got to split a Joe Louis Arena pizza with one of those guys, Steven Stamkos. I'm not saying I 100% doubt this but... yeah I 100% doubt this. E: vvvv lmao DJExile fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Sep 29, 2020 |
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And then everyone stood up and said "Pizza Pizza"
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# ? Sep 29, 2020 17:27 |
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https://twitter.com/PR_NHL/status/1310988551799046144 Draft order has officially been set
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Matt Zerella posted:And then everyone stood up and said "Pizza Pizza" I choose to believe this
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# ? Sep 29, 2020 18:36 |
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guess what folks it’s L A F R E N I E R E S Z N
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AsInHowe posted:When the Wings last won in 2008, I went to Game 2 of the Stanley Cup Finals, I ended up in a pizza line with five top prospects, there in Detroit to film a thing for Coach's Corner. Got to split a Joe Louis Arena pizza with one of those guys, Steven Stamkos. Who are the wings drafting this year
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https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2020/10/01/detroit-red-wings-steve-yzerman-nhl-draft-prospects/5885454002/quote:Prospects said director of amateur scouting Kris Draper asked the questions in Zoom calls. Cole Perfetti described his interaction with Yzerman as “limited … for the most part he’s had his camera off and very quiet, just kind of listening and taking notes. He didn’t really ask anything.” Honestly surprised Yzerman can even do yoga without a knee
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# ? Oct 2, 2020 00:04 |
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clean ayers act posted:https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2020/10/01/detroit-red-wings-steve-yzerman-nhl-draft-prospects/5885454002/ What a great, great quote. quote:Yzerman laughed, then admitted he couldn’t remember why he might not have taken a more active role.
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# ? Oct 2, 2020 01:39 |
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Some TSN guy theorized that the Sens would take Askarov 5th. No Thank You
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# ? Oct 6, 2020 16:31 |
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Spring Break My Heart posted:Some TSN guy theorized that the Sens would take Askarov 5th. No Thank You Detroit's been linked to Perfetti for months but the Askarov narrative has started to pick up for them as well, which is not reassuring to me!
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