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NienNunb
Feb 15, 2012

Hellblazer is pretty chill Hawkeye too.

I've literally never touched a woman.

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Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

dragon ball

dee eight
Dec 18, 2002

The Spirit
of Maynard

:catdrugs:
Donald Duck and Uncle Scrooge, but only Carl Barks or Don Rosa stories.

Sgt. Rock, but only Joe Kubert art.

CISMALES DID 9-11
Jun 5, 2002

chaotic good STEM major; INTJ
whatever one the next movie is gonna be

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here
groo

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here
tintin

Baconface
Sep 13, 2005
Bacon = Love
betty & veronica

les fleurs du mall
Jun 30, 2014

by LadyAmbien
The Adventures of DieOP and GasThisThread

NienNunb
Feb 15, 2012

Quickscope420dad posted:

The Adventures of DieOP and GasThisThread

obviously I fucked it
Oct 6, 2009
Sandman. When I was a tiny she-goon, I read Vault of Horror and anything remotely scary to a small kid. Comics and a candy bar could be had for like fifteen or twenty cents maybe. Fucksakes, I feel old. This sucks.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
sex criminals

Shirley Crabtree
Aug 8, 2012

dee eight
Dec 18, 2002

The Spirit
of Maynard

:catdrugs:
Insect Fear

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Alberto Basalm
Nov 14, 2005

errol _flynn posted:

Sandman. When I was a tiny she-goon, I read Vault of Horror and anything remotely scary to a small kid. Comics and a candy bar could be had for like fifteen or twenty cents maybe. Fucksakes, I feel old. This sucks.

same

Whatev
Jan 19, 2007

unfading
what do comic markets even look like these days? fuckin nobody buys comic books anymore. do they just have to cater to a shrinkingly small number of ultra nerds?

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
theres a whole forum full of nerds who buy comix on this very website

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



i boght some used conan comics at a lovely little backroom boosktore once

OMFG FURRY
Jul 10, 2006

[snarky comment]

Whatev
Jan 19, 2007

unfading

Zzulu posted:

theres a whole forum full of nerds who buy comix on this very website
they are a part of that tiny minority of weird looking consumers that actually buys comic books on the reg

limp dick calvin
Sep 1, 2006

Strepitoso. Vedete? Una meraviglia.
saga is good

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Whatev posted:

what do comic markets even look like these days? fuckin nobody buys comic books anymore. do they just have to cater to a shrinkingly small number of ultra nerds?

yes. i'd say over/under on age for dc/marvel comics purchasers is like 35 or 40, and probably 95%+ male

as for why this is, basically it's a combination of other more expensive media like tv and video games becoming popular as people got wealthier, and the ultranerds burning the industry to the ground by spending huge amounts of money on increasingly insular and convoluted jack kirby superhero comics and refusing to read anything else, so there was no incentive for anyone to make the stuff that normal people read like archie or disney or sports comics anymore. this is in like the late 60s, by the way, it's been a wasteland ever since

basically in 20 years the only reason marvel will still exist is to publish the official novelizations of superhero movies as marketing material

icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Aug 4, 2014

Tevryr
Dec 5, 2009

Whatev posted:

im a part of that tiny minority of weird fat/lanky looking spazoid rejects that actually buys comic/anime/hentai porno mag books on the reg of my parents credit card

Mikedawson
Jun 21, 2013

Whatev posted:

what do comic markets even look like these days? fuckin nobody buys comic books anymore. do they just have to cater to a shrinkingly small number of ultra nerds?

Pretty much, yeah.

Mikedawson
Jun 21, 2013

Oh and Bone was pretty good, I guess.

Whatev
Jan 19, 2007

unfading

icantfindaname posted:

yes. i'd say over/under on age for dc/marvel comics purchasers is like 35 or 40, and probably 95%+ male

as for why this is, basically it's a combination of other more expensive media like tv and video games becoming popular as people got wealthier, and the ultranerds burning the industry to the ground by spending huge amounts of money on increasingly insular and convoluted jack kirby superhero comics and refusing to read anything else, so there was no incentive for anyone to make the stuff that normal people read like archie or disney or sports comics anymore. this is in like the late 60s, by the way, it's been a wasteland ever since

basically in 20 years the only reason marvel will still exist is to publish the official novelizations of superhero movies as marketing material
Figures. I grew up in the 90s when the industry was truly dying and it started to no longer be a normal thing for kids to read comics.

the medium itself is fine, but comics are all about never-ending 50+ year old superhero serials. That ain't the sort of poo poo that is going to attract creative artists or talented writers.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

icantfindaname posted:

yes. i'd say over/under on age for dc/marvel comics purchasers is like 35 or 40, and probably 95%+ male

as for why this is, basically it's a combination of other more expensive media like tv and video games becoming popular as people got wealthier, and the ultranerds burning the industry to the ground by spending huge amounts of money on increasingly insular and convoluted jack kirby superhero comics and refusing to read anything else, so there was no incentive for anyone to make the stuff that normal people read like archie or disney or sports comics anymore. this is in like the late 60s, by the way, it's been a wasteland ever since

basically in 20 years the only reason marvel will still exist is to publish the official novelizations of superhero movies as marketing material

none of this is right except the shrinking market thing

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie
Jack KIrby's 4th World Stuff for DC Comics in the 70's.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Literally The Worst posted:

none of this is right except the shrinking market thing

how so? i'm not a comic book history expert but the end of newsstand distribution in favor of exclusively gooncave/comic shop distribution, along with the disappearance of all genres except superhero comics killed it from what i understood. why did westerns and romance and disney comics stop getting made? why did general public interest in superhero comics decline, if it even existed to begin with?

OMFG FURRY
Jul 10, 2006

[snarky comment]

icantfindaname posted:

how so? i'm not a comic book history expert but the end of newsstand distribution in favor of exclusively gooncave/comic shop distribution, along with the disappearance of all genres except superhero comics killed it from what i understood. why did westerns and romance and disney comics stop getting made? why did general public interest in superhero comics decline, if it even existed to begin with?

video games are a way better way to get your male power fantasy needs satisfied

Bold Robot
Jan 6, 2009

Be brave.



maus

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
couple quick points

1) comics were on a decline in general after the decency hearings cut a bunch of genres (crime and horror most notably) off at the knees (because they were mostly a way to put EC out of business, EC mainly survived on MAD for years and they did so partly by switching to a magazine format and thus not having to follow the code)

2) "increasingly insular and convoluted" comics werent actually a thing in the 60s, things would be referenced and continuity would be followed but the books didn't actually tie into one another, the first major crossover as we know it now wasn't until the 80s and the crisis on infinite gently caress you buy our poo poo wasn't until the 90s (the first mulit-issue story though was in the 60s, it was the galactus trilogy)

als the change to solely direct distribution is a whole loving mess in and of itself that has a lot to do with the fact that the logistics of actually getting comics to a place on time were a colossal loving mess for basically forever, it wasn't just because they decided one day "let's focus on shops over newsstands"

also the implication that nobody actually ever cared about superhero comics despite it being the longest existing genre of comics to come about after the actual creation of comics (not counting the first comics which were actually reprinted sunday comics) is p fuckin dumb given the last 76 years

BENGHAZI 2 fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Aug 4, 2014

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
also part of the problem right now irl in 2014 is that DC specifically is focusing on their base of 35-40 yo dudes and not even remotely attempting to entice other people to read their comics meanwhile ms marvel #1, about a muslim girl and written by a queer person, has gone to like seven or eight printings and sold even more than that in digital

Tevryr
Dec 5, 2009
woah

Tevryr
Dec 5, 2009
so you collect comic books huh?

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Whatev posted:

what do comic markets even look like these days? fuckin nobody buys comic books anymore. do they just have to cater to a shrinkingly small number of ultra nerds?

Sadly, yes. DC is especially bad about this. Marvel is ok, but only just.

Tevryr
Dec 5, 2009
i could probably print my own pirated copies of pdf loving files of superman on an inkjet and staple them together for way way less than retail

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Tevryr posted:

i could probably print my own pirated copies of pdf loving files of superman on an inkjet and staple them together for way way less than retail

this just in sky blue water wet pirated poo poo sells for less than actual

Tevryr
Dec 5, 2009

Literally The Worst posted:

this just in sky blue water wet pirated poo poo sells for less than actual

i've got a pretty good printer buddy. and a lot of staples.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Literally The Worst posted:

couple quick points

1) comics were on a decline in general after the decency hearings cut a bunch of genres (crime and horror most notably) off at the knees (because they were mostly a way to put EC out of business, EC mainly survived on MAD for years and they did so partly by switching to a magazine format and thus not having to follow the code)

2) "increasingly insular and convoluted" comics werent actually a thing in the 60s, things would be referenced and continuity would be followed but the books didn't actually tie into one another, the first major crossover as we know it now wasn't until the 80s and the crisis on infinite gently caress you buy our poo poo wasn't until the 90s (the first mulit-issue story though was in the 60s, it was the galactus trilogy)

als the change to solely direct distribution is a whole loving mess in and of itself that has a lot to do with the fact that the logistics of actually getting comics to a place on time were a colossal loving mess for basically forever, it wasn't just because they decided one day "let's focus on shops over newsstands"

also the implication that nobody actually ever cared about superhero comics despite it being the longest existing genre of comics to come about after the actual creation of comics (not counting the first comics which were actually reprinted sunday comics) is p fuckin dumb given the last 76 years

okay so apparently more and more continuity, references and multi-issue stories doesn't count as insularity before an arbitrary date in 198X because reasons. apparently superhero comics being around the longest means they were necessarily popular with the general public and not just ultranerds.

and finally the ever popular handwave of 'it's the comics code's fault' is ridiculous. the most popular stuff were romance, archie and disney comics, not smut and gore porn. and you didn't answer the question of why that stuff stopped being published?

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BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
your a tard

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