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its 2014, where the gently caress is my icloud alac? who listens to compressed audio anymore? sincerely kotex ps if youre still listening to 256kbps this is the thread for u to come out of the closet
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i only listen to spotify and audible
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:its 2014, where the gently caress is my icloud alac? who listens to compressed audio anymore? let me put this into perspective for you: blu-ray, the highest quality consumer level format puts their video at around 25-50 megabits per second. Audio gets barely 1.5mbps and there are 6+ channels of audio being compressed. people see better than they hear
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rear end cobra posted:i only listen to spotify and audible pagancow posted:let me put this into perspective for you:
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they will never sell 48+k to the masses. they will never sell lossless audio anymore. it's just going to keep getting worse and worse. enjoy your lossy audio formats
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Dec 2, 2014 17:54
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also twenty dollar earbuds that are more easily heard by the person sitting next to you
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Dec 2, 2014 17:56
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:the 2014 equivalent of only listening to top40 radio stations through a crappy boombox i even listen to it through my earpods and it sounds good to me so idgaf
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Dec 2, 2014 17:56
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you know how vinyl affectionately enjoy the crackles and pops of a worn record? I liisten to 24kbps audio for the same reasons
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Dec 2, 2014 18:33
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they call me tinny tim
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Dec 2, 2014 18:34
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Egan Yardley posted:you know how vinyl affectionately enjoy the crackles and pops of a worn record? I liisten to 24kbps audio for the same reasons i listen to low bit rate techno so i can hear more sibilance on the hi hats
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Dec 2, 2014 18:36
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anything more than 16 bit 44.1 khz is literally a waste, there is no extra information being stored https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIQ9IXSUzuM
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Dec 2, 2014 18:39
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stream ur music thru roger wilco
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Egan Yardley posted:you know how vinyl affectionately enjoy the crackles and pops of a worn record? I liisten to 24kbps audio for the same reasons listen on youtube at 144p e: the windows movie maker template adds warmth!
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Dec 2, 2014 18:48
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A Wheezy Steampunk posted:anything more than 16 bit 44.1 khz is literally a waste, there is no extra information being stored not true man. it depends on what was recorded and how it was recorded. try listening to a well recorded french horn at 96kHz 24 bit vs 44.1kHz 16 bit on good speakers/headphones
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Dec 2, 2014 19:13
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lol iTunes getting sued
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i didn't watch the whole thing, but that video doesn't seem to be about not having an audible difference between 44.1 vs 96, but about stair stepping and how that's not a representation of the final analogue waveform
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LP0 ON FIRE posted:i didn't watch the whole thing, but that video doesn't seem to be about not having an audible difference between 44.1 vs 96, but about stair stepping and how that's not a representation of the final analogue waveform keep watching because he talks about how it's possible to recreate an identical signal with 16/44.1 and why additional bits don't help
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LP0 ON FIRE posted:not true man. it depends on what was recorded and how it was recorded. try listening to a well recorded french horn at 96kHz 24 bit vs 44.1kHz 16 bit on good speakers/headphones also i'd like to see a large group ABX test this
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LP0 ON FIRE posted:not true man. it depends on what was recorded and how it was recorded. try listening to a well recorded french horn at 96kHz 24 bit vs 44.1kHz 16 bit on good speakers/headphones there is no audible difference. http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/Nyquist-Theorem
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Dec 2, 2014 19:33
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I find these $1,200 speaker cables "dancable"
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Blackula69 posted:there is no audible difference. isn't there some audiophile forum that bans people for mentioning AB and ABX testing?
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since installing these solid mahogany volume controllers my livingroom now has three wooden knobs
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A Wheezy Steampunk posted:isn't there some audiophile forum that bans people for mentioning AB and ABX testing? quote:In summery ABX double-blind testing does not prove that everything sounds the same as real sonic differences are easily heard in casual listening. No, instead what ABX double-blind testing proves is that human subjects do not have the ability to compare three sonic events sequentially with any statistically significance, revealing a deficiency in short-term sonic memories of our species. and furthermore
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flakeloaf posted:and furthermore lmbo
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flakeloaf posted:and furthermore lol
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LP0 ON FIRE posted:a well recorded french horn at 96kHz 24 bit vs 44.1kHz 16 bit on good speakers/headphones also i don't mean to pile on you in particular but this statement is the easiest thing in the world to weasel out of "well then it must not have been well recorded" "well then you must not have good speakers/headphones"
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Blackula69 posted:there is no audible difference. well here's a question: do you think it is ever important to record at 96kHz vs 44.1? because.. A Wheezy Steampunk posted:keep watching because he talks about how it's possible to recreate an identical signal with 16/44.1 and why additional bits don't help depending on what you're recording, and how you are capturing the sound, and the amount of sounds that are playing out of one channel, i think you could have aliasing problems bouncing from 44.1 16 bit to 44.1 16 bit vs bouncing from 96 24 bit to 44.1 16 bit
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A Wheezy Steampunk posted:also i don't mean to pile on you in particular but this statement is the easiest thing in the world to weasel out of also bad A/D and D/A converters
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if i understood that video correctly, 16/44.1 is informationally identical to an input analog signal within the full range of human hearing
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LP0 ON FIRE posted:i think you could have aliasing problems bouncing from 44.1 16 bit to 44.1 16 bit vs bouncing from 96 24 bit to 44.1 16 bit i don't know enough about how audio editing works to answer this but hopefully someone does because that's an interesting question
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A Wheezy Steampunk posted:i don't know enough about how audio editing works to answer this but hopefully someone does because that's an interesting question same, but i should since i went to school for audio recording 11 years ago. i really don't think it's fair for me to debate too much about this unless i can quote the exact science, but i swear that can make a difference. has to do with fundamental frequencies or something. one sine wave at any frequency up to 20kHz for 44.1 vs 96... yeah probably no difference. but multiple sounds i believe there is IF it's captured at a higher sampling rate than 44.1
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oh my god
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since it's at least usable as a power strip i'd say it's less terrible than the "here's a literal bag of rocks you just kinda sit on your equipment ahtt makes it sound better we swear $500 please" thing
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and the best part ladies, i don't see a ring
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pagancow posted:let me put this into perspective for you: i thought blu-rays had lossless audio on par with the studio masters or whatever that means.
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A Wheezy Steampunk posted:if i understood that video correctly, 16/44.1 is informationally identical to an input analog signal within the full range of human hearing 16/48 is full range of young adult human hearing. It starts to decay in the high frequencies around age 34
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akadajet posted:i thought blu-rays had lossless audio on par with the studio masters or whatever that means. Blu-ray can do 24/192k PCM audio but only 6 channels of it.
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