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Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven
Many on the far-right believe that elements of the CIA are plotting the overthrow of Donald J Trump by creating an "American Spring" this summer. George Soros is also reportedly involved.

Are you a Bad enough dude to overthrow the President?

Or...

Would a CIA coup destroy American democracy?

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Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Montasque posted:

destroy American democracy?

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Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
My opinion is similar to the one put forward in the first reply, honestly.

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

*extremely moderate voice* but what about our institutions

lamentable dustman
Apr 13, 2007

🏆🏆🏆

i think being a part of a real live coup could be kind of cool, hopefully a military dictator is put in place

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
wouldn't it be "american summer", if it's in the summer

fabergay egg
Mar 1, 2012

it's not a rhetorical question, for politely saying 'you are an idiot, you don't know what you are talking about'


if a cia-backed military coup attempts to depose democratically elected president donald j. trump, i hope we can all conclude that actually, trump is cool & good. the cia, after all, never overthrows a bad person, except at the behest of a worse one.

walgreenslatino
Jun 2, 2015

Lipstick Apathy
Weary of overthrowing the democratically elected leaders of our adversaries and allies, the Serious People have decided to give our ghoulish security apparatus a taste of the absolute power it's lusted after for six decades

This can not possibly go wrong, as certainly they will relinquish power after a short transitional period, since after all it's Her Turn

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 26 days!)

No. Coups are bad.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
If you look at governments that the CIA implements they actually look an awful lot like Trump

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
The only CIA action I'd support against trump is some agent pushing him down the stairs

ugh its Troika
May 2, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
how is the CIA going to overthrow the government, it's not like they can dispatch tom cruise to throw some gum on his windshield or some poo poo

The Ol Spicy Keychain
Jan 17, 2013

I MEPHISTO MY OWN ASSHOLE
If we're going down that route then I'd rather have a full on socialist revolution

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

Will it effect video games

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

Scent of Worf posted:

If we're going down that route then I'd rather have a full on socialist revolution

Exactly. Cia replacing trump with someone slightly nicer and saner doesnt remove the large Repub majorities in congress, fix gerrymandered districts, or force the public to grow up and stop being idiots who would just elect someone else like trump in another decade.

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Best Giraffe posted:

if a cia-backed military coup attempts to depose democratically elected president donald j. trump, i hope we can all conclude that actually, trump is cool & good. the cia, after all, never overthrows a bad person, except at the behest of a worse one.

Unironically this.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

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Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

Fallen Hamprince posted:

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So you're pro CIA coup?

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Montasque posted:

So you're pro CIA coup?

oh heavens think of the damage it would do to americas institutions, only some of which are designed to preserve slavery in perpetuity

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

Fallen Hamprince posted:

oh heavens think of the damage it would do to americas institutions, only some of which are designed to preserve slavery in perpetuity

I like the Smithsonian system of museums.

the black husserl
Feb 25, 2005

probably. the cia are loving vile, but somehow bannon is even worse.

he's everything i hate about the cia and more. i shudder to think of what an intelligence agency would look like if it was ran by him. god bless the cia for not going along with this, if they were on trump's side we would be 100% no questions hosed. better than the devil we know.

the black husserl
Feb 25, 2005

i also think we are going straight to hell at lightspeed after the first brown person kills more than 3+ people after a gun or bomb so that motivates a lot of my thinking

Lindsey O. Graham
Dec 31, 2016

"We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."

- The Chief

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Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Scent of Worf posted:

If we're going down that route then I'd rather have a full on socialist revolution

The CIA in this case are modest technocrats and civil servants overthrowing the ghoulish face of late finance capitalism. It is Socialisms

Honestly when Jeb! said Donald would no longer be a contender by day X I thought his dad's CIA buddies would kill Trump but I guess they are cucks?

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

"thank god trump saved democracy from the cia" i say whitely as i present my voter id to the voter fraud prevention agency officers guarding the only polling station in my heavily gerrymandered congressional district

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
The CIA does not care about the any of concerns of the people who are anti-trump. In many regards, it's historic policies/actions are well in line with Trumpism.

Their only concern with Trump will be a) the Russia connection, b) whether or not Trump is as isolationist as he says he is and c) if his ignorance of world affairs is going to constrain their freedom of action in any way

More likely, Trump will throw the IC a bone, and everything will plod along just fine. If Trump crosses the line on any 3 of those things, the cia will collaborate with the house/senate gop to neuter Trump/impeach.

A coup is not necessary nor desirable. The military-industrial complex already owns the system, why would they overthrow it?

the black husserl
Feb 25, 2005

i don't think the CIA has any beef with trump's policy, i think they just hate him because hes a greasy rear end in a top hat.

good.

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

rudatron posted:

The military-industrial complex already owns the system, why would they overthrow it?

An illusory Revolution to draw out and purge the most radical elements while producing social catharsis. Look at Egypt.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
better a dumb president than being ruled by laynard wearing deep state dorks

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
The paranoid fantasies of the alt right simply express their belief that soros/sjw/jews control everything, and not the liberty loving right wing Moral Minority, and that's why America is poo poo.

The more inconvenient truth is that America is poo poo precisely because right wing idiots and fascist sympathizers, have been implementing their policies in America unopposed, for the last couple of decades. Yet this has, strangely, only lead America into being a kleptocratic dystopian hellhole. Just like leftists said it would.

So you see the alt-right's problem - they either have to admit leftists were right, and that right wing economic policy is corporate feudalism that leads to suffering and death, that makes the rich richer and kills the poor, while destroying the environment and society, that capitalism is death and that the communists were right

or, they have to create a fantasy world were the not-decimated american left runs everything, including the very organizations that brutally repressed left wing political groups in America and across the world.

So, naturally, they live in the fantasy world.

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

not only would i op, but i am currently doing so

ugh its Troika
May 2, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

rudatron posted:

The paranoid fantasies of the alt right simply express their belief that soros/sjw/jews control everything, and not the liberty loving right wing Moral Minority, and that's why America is poo poo.

The more inconvenient truth is that America is poo poo precisely because right wing idiots and fascist sympathizers, have been implementing their policies in America unopposed, for the last couple of decades. Yet this has, strangely, only lead America into being a kleptocratic dystopian hellhole. Just like leftists said it would.

So you see the alt-right's problem - they either have to admit leftists were right, and that right wing economic policy is corporate feudalism that leads to suffering and death, that makes the rich richer and kills the poor, while destroying the environment and society, that capitalism is death and that the communists were right

or, they have to create a fantasy world were the not-decimated american left runs everything, including the very organizations that brutally repressed left wing political groups in America and across the world.

So, naturally, they live in the fantasy world.

Sir, this is an Arby's.

Lindsey O. Graham
Dec 31, 2016

"We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."

- The Chief

Fallen Hamprince posted:

"thank god trump saved democracy from the cia" i say whitely as i present my voter id to the voter fraud prevention agency officers guarding the only polling station in my heavily gerrymandered congressional district

Fuligin
Oct 27, 2010

wait what the fuck??

"No friend ever served me, and no enemy ever wronged me, whom I have not pissed upon in full"
-future inscription upon the Donald J. Trump Memorial Mausoleum and Hotel Mortiplex

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

no

Slamhound
Mar 27, 2010
The CIA is mad because installing incompetent, degenerate, piss-guzzling dictators is something America does to other countries, not itself.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
yes because its what america deserves

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Montasque posted:


Would a CIA coup destroy American democracy?

breaklaw
May 12, 2008
Would it really be a coup though? Wouldn't it be more like they "persuade" him to resign for personal reasons? Does blackmail really count as a coup? It happened in Qatar not too long ago but that's a monarchy so it doesn't really count.

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Stinky Wizzleteats
Nov 26, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 8 hours!
he could get impeached and refuse to leave office and it would still be a "coup", I guess you could say not all coups are bad.

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