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I don't understand why people are so into Esports, which should probably not be considered a sport in the first place. It's not fun to sit around and watch somebody play video games for hours when you could be doing it yourself. At least with real sports you are seeing the worlds' best athletes do things that you can't possibly imagine doing yourself. I can't throw a football 50 yards to a precise location, but I can make Mario jump on a turtle. Video games are cool. Esports are pretty dumb. Twitch personality should not be a profession, but in TYOOL 2017 it somehow is.
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If you can't lift your own body weight you are worthless garbage
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Jun 11, 2017 15:28
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Lol, i am constantly lifting my own body weight
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Jun 11, 2017 15:34
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dead gay son posted:but I can make Mario jump on a turtle. Look at Mr. Tough guy over here thinks he's better than me because I can't make Mario do the thing? gently caress you pal. I'm coming for you.
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Jun 11, 2017 15:34
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You're right, but also wrong in that watching real sports is also a waste of time
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Jun 11, 2017 15:35
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Pube Factory posted:Lol, i am constantly lifting my own body weight No you're not
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Jun 11, 2017 15:47
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Why do other people like different forms of entertainment than me? I think they're stupid.
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Jun 11, 2017 15:48
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What if that turtle is really hard to jump on?
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Jun 11, 2017 15:52
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When I was young(er) I always hated waiting for my turn playing Nintendo with friends. Esports feel exactly like that.
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Jun 11, 2017 15:56
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i am an esports hall of famer
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Jun 11, 2017 15:57
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Teikanmi posted:i am an esports hall of famer more like reeeeeeeesports
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Jun 11, 2017 15:58
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Deadspin started an esports spin off site that desperately tries to make sweaty nerds pounding buttons seem exciting. It's still better than Deadspin itself, at least.
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Jun 11, 2017 16:00
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Esports is killing video games. Multiplayer games aren't allowed to be fun anymore, everything has to be super competitive and only accessible/enjoyable by people who are playing it like multiple hours per day. Back when games were simpler like Lords of the Realm 2 or Trophy Bass 2 you could play in tournaments and actually stand a chance without a huge amount of "skill" and people generally were friendly and wouldn't call you a "human being" every 5 seconds. Why can't games be like that anymore?
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Jun 11, 2017 16:08
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yeah I eat rear end posted:people generally were friendly and wouldn't call you a "human being" every 5 seconds. that's definitely not how I remember it
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Jun 11, 2017 16:12
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yeah I definitely remember Quake II and Tribes as very casual and friendly communities
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Jun 11, 2017 16:16
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My favorite part of esports is the stock photo they take of all the players crossing their arms to look bad rear end in a sport where everyone is either severely underweight or overweight
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Jun 11, 2017 16:17
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Cashews of chaos sound pretty good
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Jun 11, 2017 16:25
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yeah I eat rear end posted:Back when games were simpler like Lords of the Realm 2 or Trophy Bass 2 you could play in tournaments and actually stand a chance without a huge amount of "skill" and people generally were friendly and wouldn't call you a "human being" every 5 seconds. Why can't games be like that anymore? Same except instead of games it's "going out in public" or "visiting my own family"
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Jun 11, 2017 16:26
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all entertainment is a waste of time if u think about it
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Jun 11, 2017 16:27
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yeah I eat rear end posted:Esports is killing video games. Multiplayer games aren't allowed to be fun anymore, everything has to be super competitive and only accessible/enjoyable by people who are playing it like multiple hours per day. Back when games were simpler like Lords of the Realm 2 or Trophy Bass 2 you could play in tournaments and actually stand a chance without a huge amount of "skill" and people generally were friendly and wouldn't call you a "human being" every 5 seconds. Why can't games be like that anymore? it's actually just the opposite, the need to get twenty million people hooked on your game and keep it popular and accessible is killing any serious attempt to make competitive games instead of compromised twaddle that doesn't really work for casuals either games from the era you're talking about were actually much better for competition because developers weren't sophisticated enough to squeeze all the unintended depth out of Tribes or StarCraft: Brood War or whatever
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Jun 11, 2017 16:32
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This guy looks like he should be sponsored primarily by the manufacturers of shovels and lime.
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Jun 11, 2017 16:36
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*decrepit old man voice* In myyyyy day (says grandpa op while his dentures fall off like a pathetic fossil) WeeeeEeeE playyyeeeed the video game!!!! WeeeEeEE did NOT watch others play yh vidrogameeeee
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsJfLKtGlfw
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Jun 11, 2017 16:42
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I find most sports to be void of entertainment value, personally, but they generate jobs and money so I'm willing to tolerate them.
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Jun 11, 2017 16:48
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I think it was funny when ESPN hosted the dota 2 championship or something thinking people would watch it on ESPN instead of twitch. Also expecting someone who has no clue what dota is to watch several matches, what a brilliant plan.
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Jun 11, 2017 17:09
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everything is a waste of time OP so i think you have a flawed premise
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Jun 11, 2017 17:15
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Other than watching top level Koreans slug it out in Brood War, Esports are quite bland.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:it's actually just the opposite, the need to get twenty million people hooked on your game and keep it popular and accessible is killing any serious attempt to make competitive games instead of compromised twaddle that doesn't really work for casuals either People say this but it isn't consistent with the reality I am experiencing. There was competition and rankings back then but the communities were much smaller and people tended to be more friendly since you probably all know each other. I only have experience with early strategy games (not starcraft, like LOTR2 and AOE) and and the aforementioned Trophy Bass 2, maybe it wasn't like that in FPS games  Besides, my point was that games shouldn't be made to be competitive first before any other goal. They are entertainment, they should be fun.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:People say this but it isn't consistent with the reality I am experiencing. There was competition and rankings back then but the communities were much smaller and people tended to be more friendly since you probably all know each other. I only have experience with early strategy games (not starcraft, like LOTR2 and AOE) and and the aforementioned Trophy Bass 2, maybe it wasn't like that in FPS games actually, they are art. but really, I think these two ideas of competitive and fun are not like mututally exclusive. Unless by competitive you mean purely the idea of making a game into something that would work great as an esports game. I.e. "ttrying to make an esports game", which is kind of a separate idea from just plain making a video game, IMO. Because like, "competitiveness" is what makes video games what they are, and not just like fancy books or movies. The fact that you, the player, can lose the game, is one of the most significant defining features of the medium.
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Bitch Boy Sports
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SHISHKABOB posted:actually, they are art. I mean competitive in the sense of esports - like everything lately has to have a ladder and a MMR and rankings. It takes a lot of the fun out of games when you just make it a "climb the ladder and get the cool symbol by your name" and little else. e: In old games you could just filter out the overly good people by doing things like in AOE where you could just put "no rush 1 hr" or something. With matchmaking systems in things like hearthstone or SC2 or whatever you find people that are playing the same decks or doing the same builds as people several ranks ahead of where you are. You very rarely encounter other people that are truly "casual". yeah I eat ass fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Jun 11, 2017 |
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it's enjoyable to watch if you know what's going on, because you spend hours every day playing that same game i quit playing dota and also quit watching it and now it's all different baseball's rules don't change every 6 months and i get to use my rocking chair while listening to the game
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*pushes glasses up* well I was CAL-IM in CS1.6 and was on several Everquest server first raids from Kunark through PoP. I also was on server first raids for MC in WoW, as well as qualifying pretty highly on the old PvP title ranking system.... But than I got a division 1 baseball scholarship and into a college strength program and girls started touching my penis alot and lol you loving nerds
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yeah I eat rear end posted:Besides, my point was that games shouldn't be made to be competitive first before any other goal. They are entertainment, they should be fun. Competition is fun. There is absolutely nothing exclusive about those goals. All I'm saying is games should have a clear purpose and audience in mind instead of trying to please everyone. Like any other form of art or entertainment games with a singular vision are way more interesting, and you'll have more fun with something that's designed to be what you wanted than with something that's triangulated to be just inoffensive enough that no demographic hates it.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Competition is fun. There is absolutely nothing exclusive about those goals. Not when you're constantly outmatched by even the lowest rank people because they all play several more hours per day than you are willing to. I guess my complaint is more about the matchmaking system than competitiveness in general.
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I do not have a problem with E-sports though I think it qualifies poo poo is hard to play and perform well at.just cause younarent sweating doesn't mean m7chntbh. Like chess isn't a physical contest...idk ifnyounwould call it a sport.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:Not when you're constantly outmatched by even the lowest rank people because they all play several more hours per day than you are willing to. I guess my complaint is more about the matchmaking system than competitiveness in general. Honestly you'd find a lot of competitive diehards who don't like matchmaking either, although not for exactly the same reasons.
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