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Y'all ever get sad when thinking about how Valve has no intentions of making real video games again? I spent a healthy chunk of my adolescence obsessively reading the Combine Overwiki. I loved everything about this universe of games. The overarching sense of dread in the police state setting, the way you interacted passively in the story around you, the grotesque aliens, the loving Magnum Revolver, The loving Gravity Gun. The sounds and aesthetics from the series are ingrained into my subconscious, I'll never forget the noise of buttons being pressed or doors swishing open or the shotgun being reloaded. I love this gay dead series with all my heart and soul, and I'm so incredibly heartbroken that there's more or less no hope of a return to it. Also remember Gmod? That poo poo owned too.
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More recent, but I am sad we have already passed the greatest class based shooter in TF2.
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Nov 18, 2019 07:01
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NienNunb posted:Y'all ever get sad when thinking about how Valve has no intentions of making real video games again? I spent a healthy chunk of my adolescence obsessively reading the Combine Overwiki. I loved everything about this universe of games. The overarching sense of dread in the police state setting, the way you interacted passively in the story around you, the grotesque aliens, the loving Magnum Revolver, The loving Gravity Gun. The sounds and aesthetics from the series are ingrained into my subconscious, I'll never forget the noise of buttons being pressed or doors swishing open or the shotgun being reloaded. I love this gay dead series with all my heart and soul, and I'm so incredibly heartbroken that there's more or less no hope of a return to it. I knew the sequel to Half Life 2 was doomed. I called it the MOMENT they talked about the story continuing in 'episodic' format. I said "that sounds like some bullshit that won't work" I said "I bet they'll start it and never finish it" If I got a couple of dollars every time I was right about something like this I'd probably have enough money to finance Half Life 2: Episode 3 myself. Also available at a store near you: lots of people's half-finished projects they are likely not to finish since they'll have a hard disk crash/team falling out/lose interest/snort all the money (now referred to as Early Access). Still, it really is bizarre that the Half-Life series, of all things, would suffer such an ignominious end.
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Nov 18, 2019 12:18
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I'm more sad that the modding scene never took off in quite the same way for HL2 compared to 1. I think HL1 holds up pretty well, and that Black Mesa is a pretty good remake, but that vanilla 2 isn't great today - MMod makes it pretty dang good, though. TF2 before the 1000 types of weapons for each class was an extremely good and balanced game, and it wasn't terrible even after the class updates. It'd be nice to get sequels to Portal or Half-Life, but I don't think pretty much anyone is still at Valve that made those original series, and with the way Valve's structure works with projects I don't see them ever being made.
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Nov 18, 2019 15:11
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It is real sad now to listen to the developer commentary on these games. They used to care so much.
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Nov 18, 2019 15:16
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i have a lot of good memories as a kid with hl1/2 & trying out all of the insane hl mods (especially the multiplayer ones) on my family's horrible compaq with dial up. maybe that discussion belongs somewhere else
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Nov 18, 2019 15:37
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I remember naively thinking that they'd get past the curse of 3s by putting Portal 3, HL2E3, HL3, L4D3 and TF3 in the Orange Box 2. The Orange Box is still one of my favorite all-time game purchases. 
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Nov 18, 2019 16:02
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Hearing Doritos Pope talk in that NoClip documentary about how he wanted to show off at the very least a new G-Man model when they honored Half Life at the video game awards and how Valve gave a limp dick response about how they'd have to dig it up somewhere was heartbreaking.
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Nov 18, 2019 16:06
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Portal and Portal 2 were both great games. Not sure I want a Portal 3, though.
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Nov 18, 2019 21:01
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A new Half-Life game has been announced, 
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Nov 19, 2019 01:09
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What dark powers do I have?
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Nov 19, 2019 01:30
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Taintrunner posted:A new Half-Life game has been announced, *Monkey's paw curls*
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Nov 19, 2019 16:22
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfRiedxPQhs
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Nov 20, 2019 21:48
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Well how about that, a definitive reason to finish setting my HTC Vive back up after my move. I only have *does some calculations* two years to finish before the delayed release!
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Nov 21, 2019 00:47
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I complained about this somewhere else too but it sucks that the Black Mesa remake removed the ichtyosaur's roar, also they dumbed down the tentacle boss' AI. The thing I like most about HL is how all the enemies felt like real creatures, like they all had their own primitive instincts that you had to try to understand to avoid getting hit by them
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Nov 21, 2019 18:49
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I’m really glad Valve decided to make a prequel to a story they left on a cliffhanger twelve years ago. That’s great.
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Nov 26, 2019 04:47
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Valve will never make the sequel people want.
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Dec 8, 2019 04:46
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Sad goon story: so like over a decade ago I was getting ready for my master's defense, and was a total wreck of a human being. Lots of people go crazy while trying to complete a master's and don't finish; turns out the only thing I had staving off the nervous breakdown was the idea of completing my masters, go figure Things were so bad that for the only time in my life I was flirting with serious substance addiction, drinking just to get away from the pain. When I was alone in the evenings, I'd drink and play various Half-Lives, especially 2. I really don't know why; I guess shooting Example: In HL2 episode one, there's a laundry that is filled with exploding barrels. My story for this was the combine in the early part of its occupation tried to ID ways to win over the populace, and one of these was cars and gasoline. Thanks to the Combine's bio-engineering skills, they engineered microbes that ate algae and poo poo gasoline. This produced millions and millions of barrels of gas; so much so that soon people had started the 1940s practice of drycleaning with gasoline again. And that's why there was a poo poo ton of explosive barrels everywhere - in the end the Combine produced so many goddamn barrels people were just stashing it in sewers just to get rid of the stuff. Anyway, fortunately I eventually realized that I was drinking the pain away and stopped drinking and went out and got help and back on the brain pills. I defended my masters, had my nervous breakdown. But I'd had played all the HL lots and lots by then, and so now I have this fan-fiction legendarium in my head with the rich inner lives of these silent protagonist characters who might as well be AFGNAP (Ageless Faceless Gender Neutral Adventure People). Untreated mental illness: the hidden costs Nebakenezzer fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Dec 8, 2019 |
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Dec 8, 2019 19:05
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I've been starting to work my way through Black Mesa. I think I played a chunk into it sometime in the past when it was free, but I kinda want to get through it now since it'll be complete soon. Really neat seeing the re-imagining of the early areas I remember, but there's definitely some parts where I can't tell if it's different or I just don't remember how things were. In On a Rail, I remember being able to shoot stuff to switch tracks, but couldn't figure it out in Black Mesa, but apparently I didn't need to do that to get through. (Or they just reworked the chapter a bit?) Grunt AI seems questionable at times, I've had them just stand there not shooting on occasion (causing me to mistake them for dead) and one time I saw two grunts attempting to charge my position, only to get stuck on a traffic cone. Assassins are total bastards though, which seems accurate. Ogmius815 posted:I’m really glad Valve decided to make a prequel to a story they left on a cliffhanger twelve years ago. That’s great. I'm fairly glad they didn't make their big VR show-off game the resolution to a decade long cliff hanger.
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Dec 9, 2019 19:42
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On a Rail in particular got completely redesigned from what it was in the original.
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Dec 9, 2019 20:15
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Did people even like Episodes 1 and 2? While I'm not really as into HL2 as some people, I can't really imagine "sorta the same game but very short" was a well received idea after first two games were so revolutionary.
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Dec 21, 2019 09:02
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Dec 21, 2019 09:06
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I tried ep1 but the platforming and longass zombie sections at the beginning bored me and i gave up The zombies in HL are good when placed in certain unexpected spots to ambush you but whole sections of just zombies and headcrabs get boring, same as if you were to make a whole section with just barnacles Shibawanko fucked around with this message at 11:12 on Dec 21, 2019 |
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Dec 21, 2019 11:05
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Vookatos posted:Did people even like Episodes 1 and 2? Valve clearly didn’t
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Dec 21, 2019 14:35
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Shibawanko posted:I tried ep1 but the platforming and longass zombie sections at the beginning bored me and i gave up FYI, the with bit the zombies and dark tunnels is the middle of Ep1. It's short.
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Dec 21, 2019 15:26
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People were kind of disappointed with Ep1's length to price ratio when it first came out (though playing through all of HL2 in one go, it's still fun with some neat scenarios) but Ep2's pretty much considered the best campaign in that series, I think.
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Dec 21, 2019 17:53
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I always thought it was weird when HL2 came out and it was treated as the best thing ever when the original game is still better.
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Dec 24, 2019 16:11
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they are both the best thing ever but for different shooter generations, imo
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Dec 24, 2019 16:22
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Dash Rendar posted:they are both the best thing ever but for different shooter generations, imo 
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Dec 24, 2019 17:53
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Groovelord Neato posted:I always thought it was weird when HL2 came out and it was treated as the best thing ever when the original game is still better. Yeah the first game was much better in retrospect, HL2 I enjoyed at the time but would probably not replay
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Dec 24, 2019 19:01
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I still like HL2 better but they sort of have different styles, and both are exemplary of their own style.
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Dec 25, 2019 01:06
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The movement in the GoldSrc engine is a lot better and the closed environment works much better.
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Dec 25, 2019 01:26
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I think I'd rather play HL1 again over HL2, but's definitely easy to say that thinking of the early sections of HL1 and not some of the middle and later sections that drag a bit. I can't help but feel a bit unimpressed by the gunplay in HL2. It was fine at the time, but something about the guns always felt just...weaker then HL1. The lack of some interesting high-end weapons (Tau, Gluon) was also disappointing, but the suped up gravity gun does make for a great segment. I feel like I also got a lot more mileage out of HL1 modding and expansions. I remember playing a bunch of Opposing force Deathmatch, among stuff like Sven Co-op, The Specialists, Rocket Crowbar, Jakin' Bacon, and probably a bunch of others i'm forgetting. HL2 was mostly just garry's mod. (and a lot of it.) I feel like I barely played HL2 DM, and I just can't think of many other big mods that I ever spent time with? I remember looking forward to seeing all the HL1 mods I liked in HL2 form, but it mostly just never happened. Oxyclean fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Dec 25, 2019 |
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Dec 25, 2019 02:15
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Yall every think about how I posted this thread and the next day they teased Half Life Alyx? That was weird!!!!
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Dec 25, 2019 02:24
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Oxyclean posted:I think I'd rather play HL1 again over HL2, but's definitely easy to say that thinking of the early sections of HL1 and not some of the middle and later sections that drag a bit. The gunplay is that game's biggest problem yeah. The main pistol felt like nothing and killing combine guys isn't as satisfying as blowing up a marine and gibbing him. The physics were fun but I just don't think HL2 is nearly as good as 1. 1 was incredible, remember that tentacle boss or the scary fish? I think it also has way better level design, headcrabs are better hidden and I like how quiet everything is, it's just you in a mostly abandoned structure. HL2 was full of boring outdoor racing segments with antlions, a lot of noise and bells and whistles but it just wasn't as great.
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Dec 25, 2019 03:22
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Having replayed HL2 with MMod recently, yeah, it does have a lot of weaknesses, the shooting being one of them. I don't know if MMod just acts as a placebo, but it felt like the guns handled better and were more punchy even though everything still ate bullets. Valve also really relied on their setpieces, which were effective, but the inbetween stuff just blurred together. Chapters like Water Hazard and Ravenholme were especially guilty of that. Great that Black Mesa is essentially "complete", but I probably won't be getting to it anytime soon. I played the free mod many years ago, so I don't know how much the retail version has changed, but I guess I'll wait until everything about Xen has been smoothed out.
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Dec 25, 2019 18:55
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There are some pretty great "story" mods that try to address the fact that Valve stopped making episodic content. Minerva is a gem of a game where you play as a Combine soldier going against thier programming. The level design in that one is real loving tight and it has a great moody atmosphere. Black Mesa is also great and I look forward to finally trying Xen. Transmission Element 0 (I think that's what it's called). It's real short but it has some great gameplay ideas and a great ending set piece against a bunch of tripods running through a small apartment block. Prospekt has some solid set pieces too if you get it on sale. It kinda sucked on release, so it has mixed reviews, but it's been patched a bunch and is pretty solid now. It's the Adrian Shepard returns mod. The biggest tragedy for me is that Lost Squad has probably been abandoned. It promised disco headcrab zombies and I wont lie and say I wasnt looking forward to that...
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Dec 25, 2019 20:06
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I am also someone who loved the boat and car sections of HL2, so grain of salt etc. etc.
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Dec 25, 2019 20:34
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Dash Rendar posted:I am also someone who loved the boat and car sections of HL2, so grain of salt etc. etc.  Highway 17 owns and I will fight anyone who says otherwise.
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DontMockMySmock posted:Highway 17 owns and I will fight anyone who says otherwise. gently caress that house though. You know what house. You all know what house.
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