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Tae posted:You have to be specific and also post what's available to your card pool because "aggro" has a million meanings. Xorm aggro. My deck is a few pages back. I lose almost every matchup against necro. Once they start getting their ridiculous 6 life incorporeals and lifedrain creatures out I'm pretty much helpless. I don't get what I'm doing wrong.
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# ? Nov 22, 2013 05:53 |
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Yeah, I see the deck. You're so low on magic with it. Not just spells, which is fine to kinda forgo, but you have no magic creatures. I mean, yeah, Succubus and Lillim, but they're not that great for damage, but staying around. Consider swapping a few creatures out for magic counterparts?
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# ? Nov 22, 2013 05:58 |
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6 life incorporeal? The only high level incorporeal played from a high level is Banshee, you're just losing to jank.
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# ? Nov 22, 2013 06:04 |
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Tae posted:6 life incorporeal? The only high level incorporeal played from a high level is Banshee, you're just losing to jank. I think I am probably overreacting, it just feels like I can't get rid of anything they play.
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# ? Nov 22, 2013 06:07 |
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I'd like to play a 2 out of 3 series with a goon right now, if anyone is interested. I need practice. I'm on right now. Any takers?
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# ? Nov 22, 2013 06:11 |
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Dahbadu posted:I'd like to play a 2 out of 3 series with a goon right now, if anyone is interested. I need practice. I'm on right now. Any takers? Sure I guess.
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# ? Nov 22, 2013 06:13 |
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Mirthless posted:How the hell am I supposed to deal with Necro as an aggro player? I feel like every creature in their set has more HP than my highest damage attackers and infect effects that make attacking or defending a futile effort. Am I missing something, or is aggro just not supposed to win against this faction? It seems every game by turn 3 my opponent has 18 life worth of creatures on the board and has removal'd every big attacker I have. As Inferno rush, going against a Necro deck is really dicey for me. If I get a good draw with fast drops and decent removal I'm usually good, but it can backfire too. Good use of Town Portal/Teleport is key too, if you're using a hero with access to Prime. I feel your pain though, Necro is no fun for me to see across the board. Edit-- Someone mentioned a lack of magic creatures in your deck, but there really aren't many options for that in Inferno. You're better off swinging at them with a melee or lilim/succubus, then finishing them off with a fire bolt. Bussamove fucked around with this message at 06:22 on Nov 22, 2013 |
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Mirthless posted:Xorm aggro. My deck is a few pages back. I lose almost every matchup against necro. Once they start getting their ridiculous 6 life incorporeals and lifedrain creatures out I'm pretty much helpless. I don't get what I'm doing wrong. gently caress you. gently caress every Inferno player that make up 70% of my games. Trying to loving stabilize against a ton of 4+ toughness beaters that survive my AE, and of course all the shooters are magic to wreck my incorporeals. Necro might have the answers to everything in the inferno package, but it's still on the bad side of the threat/answer problem. Too many of the infero dudes just go over the top of the non-trump necro dudes. At best I'm looking at a grindy game that risks losing to the random triple shock/pao hands. Necro has more CA in the midgame, but it's creatures still fall behind overall. jetz0r fucked around with this message at 09:33 on Nov 22, 2013 |
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Bussamove posted:Edit-- Someone mentioned a lack of magic creatures in your deck, but there really aren't many options for that in Inferno. You're better off swinging at them with a melee or lilim/succubus, then finishing them off with a fire bolt. No, shoot them with the Fire Bolt then finish them with the creature. Doing it the other way round incurs retaliation damage.
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# ? Nov 22, 2013 09:44 |
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So I played a bunch of games against Tae's Sanctuary deck. I only won 1 out of like 6. Half of it was back luck and bad playing, but after speaking with Tae, I realized I needed to tweak my deck a bit. It's really awesome to have someone to playtest and practice against. Thanks Tae!
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# ? Nov 22, 2013 09:51 |
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Is your T stuck to your J or something. edit: Oh you fixed it.
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# ? Nov 22, 2013 09:52 |
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Please add Chronomaster (both Steam and UPlay) to the list. And goddamn if reserving cards for decks you aren't playing isn't going to get annoying when deckbuilding.
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# ? Nov 22, 2013 10:04 |
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Jedit posted:No, shoot them with the Fire Bolt then finish them with the creature. Doing it the other way round incurs retaliation damage. Goddamn, of course I meant that-- I have no idea why I typed it the other way.
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# ? Nov 22, 2013 10:25 |
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So I ended up starting as Necro on accident. Clicked on them thinking it would offer a pop-up with details and found myself with a shiny new deck. Read that I should be ditching the one for one poo poo, but should I change my hero out or grab any creatures in particular from the Altar? And I apparently pulled a shiny card, it's got a lit up spinning border and distortion on the background. Can you trade with players or something or is it just something to gawk at? edit: ign is heretic464 really wish I could change my uplay name. Nebiros fucked around with this message at 11:26 on Nov 22, 2013 |
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Nebiros posted:So I ended up starting as Necro on accident. Clicked on them thinking it would offer a pop-up with details and found myself with a shiny new deck. Read that I should be ditching the one for one poo poo, but should I change my hero out or grab any creatures in particular from the Altar? Gawk at it, then chuck it in the Pit once you have 1000 cards. There's also achievements for owning 50 base set premiums and building a deck entirely from premium cards, but it's not worth working for.
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# ? Nov 22, 2013 11:26 |
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Well that's level 15 reached and Void Rising continues to disappoint on cards. 88 cards left to Singles.
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# ? Nov 22, 2013 13:18 |
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Dahbadu posted:Today I also dueled Noi Albinoi (ImperialMIght in-game), another highish ELO goon. We had some great, very close games. He ended up taking the series, but I'm pretty sure there were times there he didn't think he would. Good games! That last one was super tense. I thought I had lost it as my outburst of swearing could testify to but luckily - I saw a way through. Both of us on low hp. It really could have gone either way. Opened my eyes to the potential of Academy! I am always happy to duel other goons. I still need to get that achievement so doing it legit or cheesing it, is no bother.
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# ? Nov 22, 2013 13:25 |
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Is there any site that keeps track of the infernal pit card of the hour?
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# ? Nov 22, 2013 15:55 |
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Toshimo posted:Is there any site that keeps track of the infernal pit card of the hour? Momcards.fr is a French site with an English translation, which tracks the Pit and also lets you specify a list of cards where it will email you if they go up on the pit.
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# ? Nov 22, 2013 16:09 |
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I'm down to play some cards with goons, in as Ataru_13
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# ? Nov 22, 2013 16:37 |
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JoshTheStampede posted:Momcards.fr is a French site with an English translation, which tracks the Pit and also lets you specify a list of cards where it will email you if they go up on the pit. Do you have a direct link? That site is pretty much impossible to navigate by phone and my work is unsurprisingly choking on .fr domains.
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# ? Nov 22, 2013 17:01 |
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Toshimo posted:Do you have a direct link? That site is pretty much impossible to navigate by phone and my work is unsurprisingly choking on .fr domains. http://www.momcards.fr/ but you need to make an account before you can use the My Infernal Pit feature.
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# ? Nov 22, 2013 17:03 |
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Mirthless posted:How the hell am I supposed to deal with Necro as an aggro player? I feel like every creature in their set has more HP than my highest damage attackers and infect effects that make attacking or defending a futile effort. Am I missing something, or is aggro just not supposed to win against this faction? It seems every game by turn 3 my opponent has 18 life worth of creatures on the board and has removal'd every big attacker I have. As someone who plays an incorporeal necro deck, lilim and fireball are the bane of my existence. gently caress those 2 cards, op as all hell (I need my own inferno deck).
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# ? Nov 22, 2013 17:21 |
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Possibly a stupid question, but does anyone know how to unlock the locked cards in the Altar? Do I just need to be a higher level, or are the specific requirements that must be met? Edit: Never mind, I'm an idiot, a quick glance through the achievements answered my question.
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Ataru13 posted:Possibly a stupid question, but does anyone know how to unlock the locked cards in the Altar? Do I just need to be a higher level, or are the specific requirements that must be met? Look at your achievements. You need to own 200 cards from a specific set to unlock it in the Altar.
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# ? Nov 22, 2013 17:40 |
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Man, I would make so many more decks and probably wind up buying so many more cards if they would let you use a card in multiple decks. I get that they don't do that so you buy more cards to have the conveinience of not swapping commons around but it achieves the opposite. I already swap fire spells between two decks, and when I consider making another one I am always like mah I'd have to blow up this deck to get the earths and this deck to get the creatures etc. I'd probably be spreading myself thin collecting every faction if I could share the spells between them.
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# ? Nov 22, 2013 18:03 |
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Man, I hit the same Sandalphon Tower of Oblivion combo deck twice in a row last night. I'm amused by the whole thing (I'd hahave probably got him down the second time if my deck wasn't a pile; I had him to 2 before he stabilized), but man I don't think I'd want to take it tto regular ranked games. It would be a Tournament thing only. 40 minute Solitaire would get old.
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# ? Nov 22, 2013 19:01 |
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So I'd like to talk about a positive experience I had with MMDoC Customer Support this week. If you read the OP, it's mentioned that I bought 3 Song of the Long card with wildcards. This really did happen. That's 48 wildcards down the drain, and I felt sick to my stomach. I bought them because I didn't know, at the time, you could only have one Unique card in your deck. There's nothing in the GUI or tutorial to provide that information. I submitted a question/ticket with Ubisoft Customer Support. After a couple of days, I received a non-templated response from the support staff. Here's his response: quote:Hi seanbas, Anyways, I'm impressed.
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# ? Nov 22, 2013 19:17 |
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Did they take the extra 2 cards back or did they refund the wildcards AND let you keep/pit the extras?
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# ? Nov 22, 2013 19:18 |
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JoshTheStampede posted:Did they take the extra 2 cards back or did they refund the wildcards AND let you keep/pit the extras? I'm posting this just to share a positive experience, not so people can figure out ways to abuse the process and essentially punish a good deed (not saying you're going to do this, I just hope it doesn't happen). What went down is I got 1 Song of the Lost from a box, I bought 3 additional ones from the Altar, giving me 4 total. I was refunded 32 out of 48 wildcards, and they let me keep the extra Song of the Lost cards. So yeah, I can pit them when I want. But honestly, the gold they Pit for isn't much, and I would rather have 16 wildcards!
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Dahbadu posted:I'm posting this just to share a positive experience, not so people can figure out ways to abuse the process and essentially punish a good deed (not saying you're going to do this, I just hope it doesn't happen). What went down is I got 1 Song of the Lost from a box, I bought 3 additional ones from the Altar, giving me 4 total. I was refunded 32 out of 48 wildcards, and they let me keep the extra Song of the Lost cards. So yeah, I can pit them when I want. But honestly, the gold they Pit for isn't much, and I would rather have 16 wildcards! Yeah, I wouldn't even pit them for gold, I would just wait until I wanted the card on offer since epics bump up the percentage a lot.
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# ? Nov 22, 2013 19:30 |
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The lack of magic school info in the OP is bugging me. Because I'm a lazy person, I was hoping I could crowd source this. If one of the more knowledgeable, highish ELO goons (Josh, Tae, Noi, Jedit, etc.) want to write some blurbs (no more than a few sentences each) for a school or two, I can add them to the OP.
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# ? Nov 22, 2013 19:44 |
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So I am just about to break 900 ELO with an academy deck I am loving the poo poo out of. It's using Gazal's active plus Dragon Golems to recur the gently caress out of really good control/removal spells. (Soul Reaver, Shadow Image, Puppet Master, Curse of the Netherworld, etc) Ironically, the people who complain about this deck are the ones playing Necro and recurring all their stupid spitters and banshees with atropos. I guess it's only broken if it's used against them. Anyway, here's my deck list....I'm getting crushed by Sanctuary and sometimes Haven, and could use some tweaking advice. Hero: Gazal, Heral of the Void Events: (I know I can make much better choices here, open to suggestions) 2 Week of Knowledge 2 Celebration 2 Week of the Weaponsmith 2 Hail storm Creatures: 3 Scholar 4 Spirit-bound Djinn 4 Wizard Tutor 4 Rakshasa 3 Wizard Apprentice 1 Blind Brother 4 Rakshasa Raja 1 Titan 3 Arcane Archer 2 Rakshasa Scout 2 Dragon Golem 3 Djinn 1 Djinn Mentor 1 Nur, Spellweaver Spells: 3 Death Seals 2 Cursed Bound 4 Soul Reaver 2 Shadow Image 1 For Whome The Bell Tolls 2 Puppet Master 1 Curse of the Netherworld 1 Void Ripple Fortunes: 2 Favorite Spell 61 cards total Anyway, I'm thinking I'll probably cut For Whom The Bell Tolls since it sits in my hand 90% of the time, but I'm not sure if I should make some changes to my creature base. Would love some playtesting and or advice from my fellow goons. In-game name is Ylide
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Dahbadu posted:The lack of magic school info in the OP is bugging me. Because I'm a lazy person, I was hoping I could crowd source this. If one of the more knowledgeable, highish ELO goons (Josh, Tae, Noi, Jedit, etc.) want to write some blurbs (no more than a few sentences each) for a school or two, I can add them to the OP. I can write something up for fire, but I'm working on a statement of purpose for graduate school, so it'll be after that. e: Ylide posted:61 cards total Sorry, I don't have time to look over this at the moment, but always try to limit your deck to 59 cards for efficiency.
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# ? Nov 22, 2013 19:54 |
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Hello, fellow Academy player! I really like your deck, Ylide. I used to run 4 Rakshasa myself. After playtesting a bit last night, I took some out and replaced them with Pao Deathseekers. So that's something you can try and see how it works. Also, I'd run 1 Spellstealer Wizard. After testing, not only do you get to play a copy of their spell for free, it also steals it (removes it from their side of the board). So it's like, oh wow, you just played Might of Nature Mr. Inferno deck. Thanks brah! Yeah, 59 cards is recommended for your deck. So I posted Void Ripple earlier in this thread, and people were dissing it, but I'm glad to see someone else using it. It's helpful, isn't it? Really good against Atropos + Adar-Malik (that Necro hero that can recur), and it has overall flexibility for end-game. I'm working on work projects for most of the day. But over the weekend I'll be on. Hopefully we can duel. I'd love to duel another Academy player. Dahbadu fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Nov 22, 2013 |
# ? Nov 22, 2013 19:58 |
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I started playing this yesterday and I'm at ~750 Elo with my Inferno rush deck and still winning most of my games. Necro can be annoying depending on my draw - I try to mulligan for a hand heavy on Succubus/Lilim/spells. The other factions haven't seemed difficult in terms of having mechanics that thwart me. Garant, Seeker of Discord 1 Week of Knowledge 1 Market of Secrets 2 Week of Weaponsmiths 4 Month of the Dancing Flames 4 Maniac 1 Dark Assassin 4 Succubus 4 Demented 4 Pao Deathseeker 4 Juggernaut 1 Pit Fiend 4 Lilim 2 Ravager 4 Fire Bolt 2 Inner Fire 2 Teleport 2 Town Portal 4 Fireball 4 Gold Pile 2 Altar of Destruction 2 Hall of Torment The Week of Knowledge should become another Market of Secrets and the Pit Fiend should be another Dark Assassin once I pick up a few more wildcards. I'm open to suggestions if there's anything obvious that I could improve. e: my IGN is SandwichCrisis if anyone wants to add me fantastic in plastic fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Nov 22, 2013 |
# ? Nov 22, 2013 20:11 |
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I'm pretty new not only to this game, but TCGs in general; if anyone has any sort of deck building advice (or knows where to find some) that isn't outlined in the OP, I'd appreciate it.
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# ? Nov 22, 2013 20:11 |
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Sorry again for leaving you hanging seanbas, I totally forgot I left my client logged in! I can't comment too much on Academy since I've never played it, but I will echo putting Paos in because they go well in most every deck. I finally saved my wildcards to get Phrias last night. I think I'm in love. Also got a premium Adar-Malik out of packs so I might have to put a Necro deck together if I have the card base for it.
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# ? Nov 22, 2013 20:18 |
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Bussamove posted:Sorry again for leaving you hanging seanbas No worries, Bussamove. And welcome to 1000+ ELO!
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# ? Nov 22, 2013 20:23 |
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Dahbadu posted:The lack of magic school info in the OP is bugging me. Because I'm a lazy person, I was hoping I could crowd source this. If one of the more knowledgeable, highish ELO goons (Josh, Tae, Noi, Jedit, etc.) want to write some blurbs (no more than a few sentences each) for a school or two, I can add them to the OP. The notable spells here are the direct damage ones as well as Inner Fire (+2 creature damage until end of turn). The Forbidden Flame is a must have, as it is a great board reset, and Fire Bolt and Fireball provide good damage for the cost. The rest of the spells can be good, but they are situational or easy to avoid altogether. Obviously feel free to make any changes, or if people wish to dispute what I stated, explain why and let's discuss.
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