sky shark posted:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...445d_story.html

Literally no other journalists will confirm the use of human shields as HAMAS uses hospital as headquarters. Literally. None.

Hello even a Finnish reporter got prissy when she was quoted that rockets were being fired from next to the hospital where she was bc it went against the narrative she was pushing about civilians suffering (but her "professionalism" made her mention it in a single line.e)

sky shark posted:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...445d_story.html

Literally no other journalists will confirm the use of human shields as HAMAS uses hospital as headquarters. Literally. None.

quote:

Hello even a Finnish reporter got prissy when she was quoted that rockets were being fired from next to the hospital where she was bc it went against the narrative she was pushing about civilians suffering (but her "professionalism" made her mention it in a single line.e)

sky shark posted:

Why aren't there more stories about what HAMAS is doing it is a mystery
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opi...b194667245b07d8

Neurolimal posted:

Can you link this premium content for us, I'm curious as to if its source is literally the exact same journalist (like all the pro-israel sites seem to be using)

sky shark posted:

Tldr HAMAS threatens reporters and confiscated their equipment. Reporters posting anything vaguely questionable about HAMAS getting death threats

Neurolimal posted:

And even if they were more permanent rocket launching bases, you don't level hospitals.

Neurolimal posted:

"At the Shifa Hospital in Gaza City, crowds gathered to throw shoes and eggs at the Palestinian Authority’s health minister, who represents the crumbling “unity government” in the West Bank city of Ramallah. The minister was turned away before he reached the hospital, which has become a de facto headquarters for Hamas leaders, who can be seen in the hallways and offices."

This is the entirety of hospital hits for that article. A passing phrase in a very slanted article.


She said she "heard rockets fired nearby", didn't see them, didn't find any proof of them being fired (it's not like the launching base disappears immediately upon being launched), and no other journalist saw this rocket launch from the hospital, in spite of it being a rocket launch

This is all incredibly moot anyways, because just like I have said before, and Panzeh has said this very page, rocket launching bases are mobile, and can be moved from the launched site in a couple of hours. Shelling the hospital does nothing.

And even if they were more permanent rocket launching bases, you don't level hospitals.

Neurolimal posted:

Could you please post the article, so that we may see if it sources the same one-source for this "Hamas is threatening journalists and taking their equipment"

It should be rather easy for you to do.

sky shark posted:

On a a mobile so no. Click the link. Oh wait it's an opinion piece citing three reporters so you'll hardware like you do everything else with your brilliant nuh uh rebuttals

illrepute posted:

I can't see the article, it's behind a paywall.

Fucitol posted:

Rockets are capable of being launched from dirt mounds w/o a supporting structure, esp. pissant tiny rockets.

Bolow posted:

The only "successful" counter-insurgency I can even think of is Chechnya and that involved basically killing every military aged male in the region and it didn't even really work then

Neurolimal posted:

I didn't know quassams could be launched without the launching base, thanks for that info. (this isn't meant to be sarcastic)

Fucitol posted:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aceh_War

iirc, britain brutalized malaysia as well to quell their insurgency

Fucitol posted:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aceh_War

iirc, britain brutalized malaysia as well to quell their insurgency

maffew buildings posted:

Guys I'm starting a social justice volunteer brigade to help Hamas. We're meeting at Starbucks and also we're disbanding when I find out Sally is loving that jock rear end in a top hat Tavis and then the priority will social justice getting stoned at a My Morning Jacket concert. Who's with me?

Neurolimal posted:

i'd rather just throw money at charities and attend protests with cool dudes like normal finkelstein

sky shark posted:

Wouldn't be surprised if they didn't have a couple of these nearby
http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/15337/meet-spear-israels-newest-vehicle-mounted-mortar-system/
As the are supposed to be tits for counterbattery

Btw godholio these are being fielded in Afghanistan on sf bases so here's another example of Israeli military tech coming back to us

Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:

ps how much % of your parent's income are you donating to the poor muds?

maffew buildings posted:

Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:

ps how much % of your income are you donating to the poor muds?

Neurolimal posted:

pretty tiny amount of my income, maybe a few hund a year to various charities (not just palestinians)

Neurolimal posted:

pretty tiny amount of my income, maybe a few hund a year to various charities (not just palestinians)

sky shark posted:

Wouldn't be surprised if they didn't have a couple of these nearby
http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/15337/meet-spear-israels-newest-vehicle-mounted-mortar-system/
As the are supposed to be tits for counterbattery

Btw godholio these are being fielded in Afghanistan on sf bases so here's another example of Israeli military tech coming back to us

maffew buildings posted:

How many of these charities are based in the country you live in to help the people that live in it?

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well you probably paid for the propellant on one of those pissrockets so thats pretty neat

Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:

well you probably paid for the propellant on one of those pissrockets so thats pretty neat

Neurolimal posted:

good, I hope it lands directly on top of an rear end in a top hat settler's head

maffew buildings posted:

What's the total number of dead you need for one unit of Hitler? Are we using six million Jews, or do we count the other undesirables? How many Hitler's are in a Stalin? How many Pol Pots in a Hitler?

Neurolimal posted:

do you think hitler would be proud, mortified, or endlessly amused that the descendants of a significant portion of the people he persecuted ended up turning around and building their own concentration camps to house undesirable semites

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Forty questions for the international media in Gaza

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/07/31/forty-questions-for-the-international-media-in-gaza/

1. Have you or any of your colleagues been intimidated by Hamas?

2. Do you feel restricted in your ability to ‘say what you see’ in Gaza?

3. How do you feel about the Spanish journalist who said Hamas would kill any journalist if they filmed rocket fire?

4. Has Hamas pressured you to delete anything you have published?

5. Has Hamas ever threatened to take your phone, laptop or camera?

6. Has Hamas ever taken the phone, laptop or camera of a colleague in Gaza?

7. Have you seen Hamas fighters in Gaza?

8. If yes, why have you not directly reported Hamas fighting activity when you are eye-witnesses in Gaza, but rather indirectly reported about what the IDF says they Hamas has done?

9. Are you scared to publish photos of Hamas operatives on your Twitter page, or broadcast images of Hamas fighting and aggression on your news channel?

10. Have you published any photos of terrorists launching rockets in Gaza? If so, are these images being turned down by your newspaper or broadcaster?

11. Have you thought of interviewing the traumatised residents of southern Israel?

12. When Israeli authorities say that most of the dead in Gaza are terrorists, and Hamas says most of the dead in Gaza are civilians, how do you differentiate?

13. When Hamas Health Ministry statistics contradict Hamas’ own propaganda and reveal that mostly men of fighting age have died so far in Gaza, does it give you pause for thought?

14. Is an underage armed terrorist still counted as a terrorist or a child when killed? Or both? Do you explain to your readers how this is possible?

15. Have you put to Hamas spokespersons that firing rockets from civilian areas in a war situation will draw return fire and lead to the death of civilians?

16. Nick Casey of the Wall Street Journal tweeted: “you have to wonder with the shelling, how patients at Shifa hospital feel as Hamas uses it as a safe place to see media.” Never mind wondering; did you ask any patients how they feel?

17. And how do you feel about the fact that Casey subsequently deleted his tweet?

18. Russia Today journalist Harry Fear mentioned rocket-launching sites near his hotel. Have you noticed any terrorists or terror bases near your hotel?

19. How do you feel about Fear’s expulsion from Gaza, for tweeting about the rocket launches from civilian areas? Are you worried that you might also be expelled from Gaza?

20. Did you see any Hamas terror personnel inside Al-Shifa hospital?

21. Have you interviewed a Hamas spokesperson inside Al-Shifa?

22. Have you seen any rocket-launching sites in or around the vicinity of a hospital?

23. Have you interviewed hospital staff or patients as to how they feel about their buildings being used for terror activity?

24. Hamas’ command and control bunker is underneath Al Shifa hospital. Is this worth reporting? Have you asked to gain access to it, so you can interview Hamas commanders?

25. French newspaper Liberation reported that Hamas’ Al Qassam offices are next to the emergency room at Shifa hospital, before deleting the article. Was the reporter right to delete the article, and will the information appear in the media at some point still?

26. When the missile hit Al-Shati hospital where children were killed, did you see Hamas operatives collecting the debris of the fallen Palestinian rocket, as Gabriel Barbati reported? Did Barbati pick up on something you missed?

27. Barbati prefaced his tweet by writing “Out of Gaza, far from Hamas retaliation.” Will you also report differently about Gaza when you are out of Gaza, far from Hamas retaliation?

28. Can live journalism by reporters who are scared of retaliation from the authorities they are reporting about really count as pure journalism, or is journalism in that context fundamentally compromised?

29. Have you seen or heard evidence of Hamas using civilians as human shields, by forcing or “encouraging” them to stay inside or enter into a building that has received a knock on the roof?

30. Have you seen or heard evidence of Hamas storing weapons inside schools, houses, flats, mosques or hospitals?

31. Have you interviewed Gazan residents to find out if they have – or know someone who has – a tunnel dug underneath their house? How do they feel about this?

32. Have you tried to interview any of the parents of the 160 Palestinian children who died building the terror tunnels?

33. Have you asked Hamas spokespersons why they are setting out to murder children by firing rockets towards civilian populations?

34. Have you interviewed any UNRWA officials about why Hamas are storing weapons in their schools, and how the weapons got there?

35. Are you currently investigating how Hamas rockets ended up in UNRWA schools?

36. Are you currently investigating why UNRWA returned rockets to Hamas and their police force?

37. When Hamas breaks a ceasefire with Israel – as it has done 6 times – how easy is it to report on this from Gaza?

38. Is there any anti-Hamas sentiment in Gaza, and how is it expressed?

39. Were you aware that Hamas chose to execute dozens of anti-war protesters in Gaza, and did you not consider this to be worth
reporting?

40. Is international media reporting from Gaza free from pressure and intimidation, or is there a real problem – and if so, how will you address it?

Omi-Polari posted:

Neurolimal posted:

41. Does Hamas gently caress dogs?

42. When did Satan join Hamas?

43. When Hamas needs to get the last few innocent souls from their entrapment jars, do they tap the bottom or shake it?