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friendly 2 da void posted:It's weird how slanted the national narrative is against the democrats. Here's an angle that I don't see enough of: This is a good take I hadn't considered. Crazy how long it's been.
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Also, I know everybody is sad about Beto and Gillum, I'm sad too but today is for doing the god drat macarena on one particular political graveJunior G-man posted:GET
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CmdrRiker posted:Back when I was young and naive I was rooting for Trump to win the GOP nomination because I thought there was no way in hell anyone would actually vote for him on election day. I learned a lot since then. Ehh, I grew up close enough to NYC that I've always been fairly aware of how trash he is
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It’s looking very likely that Tester holds his seat and that is a very very big break for the Democrats.
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AlBlaybleCharacter posted:If I make appropriate adjustments to the av it will be recognizable. I'm already sunk cost on the name I really think you should switch back. Have you seen Clerks 2? You're trying to "reclaim" "NPC." It won't work, and if a bunch of folks get vaguely-interchangeable NPC avatars and keep them, it'll end up furthering right-wing messaging.
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Tibalt posted:Funny how The Bringer Of Derails survived and voted for Bart while Heidi lost. Bredesen's "Taylor Swift Sez: Vote Judge Kavanaugh" approach getting mercilessly curb-stomped will hopefully be a lesson on-par with Jon Ossof
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Tibalt posted:Funny how The Bringer Of Derails survived and voted for Bart while Heidi lost. They're very different races, but I think it's important to look at why Manchin, Tester (potentially) and Brown (people keep forgetting him but I think he's the most important to look at because he just crushed it while being a pretty solidly good Democrat) cruised to re-election while their states stayed solidly red, but McCaskill/Hetikamp/Donnelly lost, mostly pretty badly.
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Someone up thread asked if GOP Senators would block all Dem SCOTUS nominees in 2020. McCain and others promised they would do so if Clinton won in '16. They 100% will. They already said they would.
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:We obviously convinced some of them, otherwise Sherrod Brown wouldn't have won in Ohio while Mike DeWine won the governorship. Well, that did require Sherrod Brown supporting an unpopular position (Trump's steel tariffs) AND the GOP running an absolutely terrible candidate.
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eke out posted:for anyone curious about subpoena power issues, here's a great read about how House Republicans successfully won cases allowing them to subpoena a ton of political documents then spent this year furiously trying to get the judge to take back her holding once they realized they'd be losing power well thats good news. Unzip and Attack posted:Someone up thread asked if GOP Senators would block all Dem SCOTUS nominees in 2020. McCain and others promised they would do so if Clinton won in '16. they would have anyway. at best last night we would have broke even with them.
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evilweasel posted:They're very different races, but I think it's important to look at why Manchin, Tester (potentially) and Brown (people keep forgetting him but I think he's the most important to look at because he just crushed it while being a pretty solidly good Democrat) cruised to re-election while their states stayed solidly red, but McCaskill/Hetikamp/Donnelly lost, mostly pretty badly. I don't know enough about the losing candidates to say why they lost but I think a perception of authenticity helped all of the winning ones.
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Long live the new flesh! I am pretty pumped. Looking forward to Benghazi 2.0.
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Loving all the posts with friends in rural NV about daggum Washoe and Clark counties deciding everything. No poo poo? That's where the people live. Sorry the 9k people in Churchill who split 7k-R/2k-D don't override the ~170k votes in Washoe and ~600k votes in Clark. Now imagine if your candidate won the popular vote and still lost 
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:We obviously convinced some of them, otherwise Sherrod Brown wouldn't have won in Ohio while Mike DeWine won the governorship. I think looking at Brown and figuring out how he did what he did is the most important lesson of this election. Because not only did he cruise to re-election, it was never really in doubt. I kinda wanted Brown to run in 2020 (though for some reason he has never seemed interested) but now that OH has a Republican governor I don't think you can afford to give up the seat.
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evilweasel posted:I think looking at Brown and figuring out how he did what he did is the most important lesson of this election. Because not only did he cruise to re-election, it was never really in doubt. Klobuchar also way outperformed in rural regions and among voters who should, by all rights, have gone to Trump. I think she and Brown have a lot in common.
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Chard posted:I want so badly to unclench, let my guard down... i would to an extent. the senate loss sucks but it shows we have the raw numbers out there when 2020 rolls around for trump so it might be even bigger turn outs. we have the house and they will do investigations. we had a ton of wins for the left and minorities of all stripes. some red states got redder. but blue dogs lost badly so the partisan divide is fortifying.
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evilweasel posted:They're very different races, but I think it's important to look at why Manchin, Tester (potentially) and Brown (people keep forgetting him but I think he's the most important to look at because he just crushed it while being a pretty solidly good Democrat) cruised to re-election while their states stayed solidly red, but McCaskill/Hetikamp/Donnelly lost, mostly pretty badly. the truth... Is in the middle of this 12 page document on potential candidates and strategies for the AZ race
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evilweasel posted:I think looking at Brown and figuring out how he did what he did is the most important lesson of this election. Because not only did he cruise to re-election, it was never really in doubt. I don't think you can really draw conclusions from long-term incumbents holding on in red states. Red state voters are authoritarians and white, male, long term incumbents are Authority. I mean maybe there's a better reason in the data but I suspect that's the root of it. McCaskill and Heitkamp don't check all those boxes, just some of them.
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My Twitter Account posted:
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sean10mm posted:The electorate breaking D+9 is great news FOR REPUBLICANS LOL 
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https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/1060201592106835968 Otherwise known as 'hearings into obvious crimes'.
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Solkanar512 posted:Trump presser in like 20 minutes. Take a drink every time he says the word "obstruction"
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I really think you should switch back. Have you seen Clerks 2? You're trying to "reclaim" "NPC." It won't work, and if a bunch of folks get vaguely-interchangeable NPC avatars and keep them, it'll end up furthering right-wing messaging. Yeah I'm trying to be a good sport but you're right. I'll go with what I was originally going to do this month
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Junior G-man posted:GET Yeah this. Thank goodness Wisconsin finally pulled their poo poo together
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Can the House do any kind of investigation into potential voter fraud/illegal disenfranchisement in Georgia and Florida?
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Oxxidation posted:the tea party is over because the tea party is now in control of all the country's major levers of power, most likely indefinitely I feel like this would have been a way better take if Dave Brat, the actual real-life herald of the Tea Party, the Trumpist OG candidate who ran on Pure Trump Forever, hadn't lost his seat to an explicitly progressive anti-Trump candidate less than 24 hours ago. "The rightward shift they pushed for was completed" -- a native american lesbian just smashed a republican incumbent in Kansas. She wasn't running to the right of him. Also, the tea party is not "in control of all the country's major level of power", that's just pure disinformation. Is your commitment to despair so strong that you've contorted yourself into believing that the House of Representatives does not represent a major level of power?
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^^^ Preach, comrade.eke out posted:looking forward to the subpoenaed documents into this fiasco too ``Troops instead are expected to call the deployment of nearly 8,000 active-duty troops along three border states by phrases such as “in Support of Orange-faced Baboon” or “in Shitface We Trust” the officials said.``
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Solkanar512 posted:Trump presser in like 20 minutes. We all know what hes gonna say.
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Martian posted:Can the House do any kind of investigation into potential voter fraud/illegal disenfranchisement in Georgia and Florida? Probably! Congress has broad power to regulate elections (for federal offices, at least), and what you can regulate, you can investigate.
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CuddleCryptid posted:Take a drink every time he says the word "obstruction" That’s a pretty big word.
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A 9 point win is a wave. You can’t spin that. It’s the largest margin of victory in a midterm since the 70s. It’s just that our Senate system is broken because of the Red States. But we broke through the gerrymandering and picked up crucial governships. Trust me, if we had pulled it out in Florida people would be feeling a whole lot different about everything.
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