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Nanpa posted:I'm downloading the beta now, is this a good Anno like 1404/2070 or a bad one? I never played the last one because it sounded terrible and over simplified It's a good one. Maybe even the best.
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Jizz into Darkness posted:Its not quite a worldwide simultaneous release, they released a map of the times: So one could play a full day earlier by VPNing to Australia/Japan? Nice. e: I'ts probably really simple, but how do you activate seeds? I remember in 1404 you had to left click them after slotting them in your warehouse but it doesn't seem to be working in the beta. Ojetor fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Apr 14, 2019 |
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Apr 14, 2019 03:44
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I know this is me literally complaining that this Anno is too Anno, but doesn't it seem like there is way more to micromanage and juggle this time around? My attention is constantly being split between what my fleets doing, an expedition, quests, and the perpetual treadmill of building a city on at least 2 old world islands. When the game started asking me to build in the New World it overwhelmed me - it's like, now play a second game just as deep and demanding as the first game but we won't pause the first game and you have to manage them both while competing with AI that will take all the islands and out-build you if you aren't on point. Some kind of commuter dock so my workforce can freely wander islands would go a long way in making the micromanagement more tolerable. I think this game might be too much for me if some more concessions to usability aren't made.
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Apr 14, 2019 04:41
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The Bramble posted:Some kind of commuter dock so my workforce can freely wander islands would go a long way in making the micromanagement more tolerable. I think this game might be too much for me if some more concessions to usability aren't made. There is a commuter dock at Tier 4 so I think it isn't available in the open beta? It effectively lets population be a map-wide factor rather than island based.
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Apr 14, 2019 04:51
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Nanpa posted:I'm downloading the beta now, is this a good Anno like 1404/2070 or a bad one? I never played the last one because it sounded terrible and over simplified It's like 1404 with a good chunk of QoL improvements from 2070 and the multiple concurrent map technology from 2205. They even brought back the fuckton of decorations from 1404 AND gave them an actual mechanical bonus even. The Bramble posted:I know this is me literally complaining that this Anno is too Anno, but doesn't it seem like there is way more to micromanage and juggle this time around? My attention is constantly being split between what my fleets doing, an expedition, quests, and the perpetual treadmill of building a city on at least 2 old world islands. When the game started asking me to build in the New World it overwhelmed me - it's like, now play a second game just as deep and demanding as the first game but we won't pause the first game and you have to manage them both while competing with AI that will take all the islands and out-build you if you aren't on point. Yeah this is the Anno I'd say benefits the most from the ability to run a faction in multiplayer mode. Especially when you get to the new world. I'm definitely gonna have to turn off at least one pirate when doing a sandbox game after launch.
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Apr 14, 2019 06:06
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Ships can fire both broadsides independent of each other. The pirate den has some obnoxious line of sight issues that blocks ships from firing, after sniping off the outer turrets I sailed a fleet in and melted the remainder rather quickly. A lesson to the devs would be if you make the ceasefire cost x2.5 than it did in 1404, and the NPC still demands money when they "surrender", I'm going to murder the pirates every time. I can make a fleet in one third of the time it takes to make 50k. I actually liked the corsairs and the barracudas stole loot instead of destroying ships every time. Something I like is that there's travel time to dodge cannonballs and less surprisingly, mortar shells, the projectiles are no longer a purely visual effect. I imagine big bertha is a turret that can be built by engineers or investors since there's ship items that reduce damage from it. Alkydere posted:It's like 1404 with a good chunk of QoL improvements from 2070 and the multiple concurrent map technology from 2205. They even brought back the fuckton of decorations from 1404 AND gave them an actual mechanical bonus even. The decorations have interactions with entities, that's been missing from anno since 1404. Decorations are lame if there aren't little people waddling over to appreciate them. Speaking of little details, one of my favourite little touches is that the school's clock displays your system time.
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Apr 14, 2019 06:22
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Yeah, the way the game handles broadside fire isn't the best, but it's 100x better than 1404's "advance, stop all movement to bring guns to bear, catch back up" stupidity. And each individual shot on the screen being an individual shot in game is cool and a massive game changer. The Anno devs had a combat video where they showed it off how the Ship of the Line is equivalent to the biggest, meanest steam ship if you use it right. The steam ships have slow firing, but powerful cannons on turrets, and then he had a Ship of the Line drive between the the battleships (or whatever they were called) and suddenly it was able to bring all 54 cannons to bear. And yeah, the best thing is the fact that the cities are so animated. The decorations just add to that, and when you get a festival going, gently caress yeah its party time!
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Apr 14, 2019 06:35
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1404 ships turned quickly at least, there have been bunch of times now where ships in 1800 can fire at ships when I micro them to turn about 10° but if I issue an attack order they will refuse to fire until they're in close quarters which is dangerous and a nuisance when you're trying to defeat superior numbers with carefully distributing damage.
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Apr 14, 2019 07:45
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skeleton warrior posted:It’d be nice if I found a way to say how much total stuff my people wanted in food and goods, but I guess I’m back to watching the warehouse indicators https://nihoel.github.io/Anno1800Calculator/ This might help? I'm not sure where they're getting the figures from but it's been pretty accurate so far.
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Apr 14, 2019 08:44
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The beta has convinced me to get the game. I might also pick up Anno 2205 if I can find it cheap, but I'm trying to decide between is and 2070? Which is better?
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Apr 14, 2019 11:00
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Communist Bear posted:The beta has convinced me to get the game. I think a lot of people in the thread might recommend 1404, though I really like 2070. (The Scifi near-future, post global warming setting was what actually drew me into the series, not having paid it much attention previously.) Anno 2205 is very different from 1404/1800/2070 though, with a larger focus on streamlining things and possibly oversimplifying them. It's a neat game on it's own, but it's not a game that's well liked by the anno crowd. Also if you look at cd-key sites you could easily pick up 2070 or 2205 with all dlc for around 15-20ish bucks. e: like: https://www.kinguin.net/category/748/anno-2070-complete-edition-digital-download/ https://www.kinguin.net/category/58854/anno-2205-ultimate-edition-uplay-activation-link/ for example. But if you like Anno 1800, then 2070 would be the most similar one, and more along what you expect. Though 2205 has the same kind of multi-map gameplay as 1800, though across half a dozen maps at the same time, in the late-game. SubNat fucked around with this message at 11:21 on Apr 14, 2019 |
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Apr 14, 2019 11:16
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Yeah I had 2070 a while back (cant seem to find it on my account weirdly) and enjoyed it. Was just wondering if 2205 was better...but doesn't look like it. Think I'll pick up it and 1800 through uplay.
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Apr 14, 2019 12:07
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2205 is way worse than 2070, but honestly i wouldn't advise picking up both an older game and the new one at the same time. generally the anno's are all similar enough that it would probably lead to burning out on them
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Apr 14, 2019 13:05
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Ctrl Shift R is first person mode. Haven’t tried it yet but should be cool.
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Apr 14, 2019 13:06
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Beta convinced me too. Before now I'd only had exposure to Anno 1404. What's the store to buy it on? I know it's still on sale on Steam for another few days, otherwise you can buy it on Uplay and... Epic?
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Apr 14, 2019 14:00
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Greenmangaming has both versions for 15% off. You get a Ubisoft code.
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Apr 14, 2019 14:35
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Davincie posted:2205 is way worse than 2070, but honestly i wouldn't advise picking up both an older game and the new one at the same time. generally the anno's are all similar enough that it would probably lead to burning out on them No such thing surely! 
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There were a handful of things where I liked how either 1404 or 2070 did things a little better, but I know I just need to shake that off and take the new game for what it is, especially since some of that stuff was like Venice additions and what not. I'm excited for Tuesday, I kind of stopped right when I got to level 3 to keep that part intact for the full game.
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Apr 14, 2019 15:07
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Soooo how many of y'all have opened up spreadsheets for this game? 
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Davincie posted:2205 is way worse than 2070, but honestly i wouldn't advise picking up both an older game and the new one at the same time. generally the anno's are all similar enough that it would probably lead to burning out on them 2205 isn't worse exactly, it's just a different game. If you liked the parts it removed, then obviously you'd see it as worse, but personally I was always more into the building than the competition so a truly-solo game was nice. Not that it didn't have its problems though, like the time it took to switch between maps or the lack of meaningful logistics. Or when they added invasions in a patch but not defense buildings so they wound up being just another annoyance to deal with.
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Apr 14, 2019 15:44
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Yeah 2205 wasn't perfect but as a pacifist single player I enjoyed it.
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Apr 14, 2019 15:55
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So I got a ship mortar from farming graves' ships and it's probably one of the better ship items I've seen other than some epic rarity captains. Less impressive was this:  A ship item that turns cannons into flamethrowers for a few volleys, -40% damage, -50% range for 10 seconds of 100% increased attack speed is not a good tradeoff, especially if you're fighting against the wind.
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Apr 14, 2019 16:08
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God damnit, I was all prepared to make a stand and not buy this because I have too much to play and not nearly enough time as it is but this beta's really really good. 
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Apr 14, 2019 16:20
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Gotta say the beta caught me too. Only stopped playing because progress won't carry over.
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Apr 14, 2019 18:17
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I'm trying to get into the open beta but it keeps asking for a CD Key! What do, help, I want to play with the pretty toys so bad
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Delacroix posted:So I got a ship mortar from farming graves' ships and it's probably one of the better ship items I've seen other than some epic rarity captains. I remember getting a mortar or two in the closed beta, they made cleaning out the pirate cove pretty drat easy without taking much in the way of damage, since you could just chill on the backside of the isle and mortar the guns out without being in danger.
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Apr 14, 2019 18:29
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axelord posted:Gotta say the beta caught me too. Only stopped playing because progress won't carry over. Ditto. I was all excited to see the steam stuff but since the final citizen levels aren't in I'm gonna wait and not burn myself out. Delacroix posted:So I got a ship mortar from farming graves' ships and it's probably one of the better ship items I've seen other than some epic rarity captains. At least it wasn't the dynamite I picked up. Yeah I'll just...set this one over here.
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I think I've had a pretty good run with the beta; only wish at this point the full game was coming out tomorrow instead of Tuesday now. Looking forward to the later tiers being unlocked and finally having access to steamships. Will be so liberating no longer being at the mercy of the wind - which no matter where you want to go is always blowing in the wrong direction. Game had pretty solid performance as well, guess those extra weeks paid off as promised. The game ran smoothly for the most part after tweaking the settings and still looked fantastic. Most of the bugs I did run into were related to fire stations for some reason. Managed to get this once:  Also had fire stations that tried to dispatch nurses and police officers instead of firefighters, and because of that they wouldn't actually fight nearby fires. Hopefully that is resolved with the fixes they've been busy with for the Day 1 Patch.
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Apr 14, 2019 22:42
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Is there a pre-load for the full game? And if so does anyone know when it'll be available?
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Apr 14, 2019 23:06
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Mayveena posted:Is there a pre-load for the full game? And if so does anyone know when it'll be available?
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First-person mode sure is something  https://www.reddit.com/r/anno/comments/bd3lbw/walking_the_streets_first_person_view_footage
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Apr 14, 2019 23:15
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PancakeTransmission posted:Yes. Now (uPlay). It has also been available for pre-load on Steam since yesterday if you've pre-ordered it there. edit: webmeister posted:First-person mode sure is something Psychotic Weasel fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Apr 14, 2019 |
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Mayveena posted:Is there a pre-load for the full game? And if so does anyone know when it'll be available?  e:fb
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Apr 14, 2019 23:27
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Well GMG has not provided a key so no pre-load for me 
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Apr 14, 2019 23:59
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If there's eventually DLC, will that also be available on Steam?
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Ofaloaf posted:If there's eventually DLC, will that also be available on Steam? They guaranteed it on the store page. I guess sales/discount down the line depend on how much influence the devs actually have compared to the publisher. (I'm not against a steam competitor btw cause Valve got lazy as gently caress, Epic just seems to be making dumb choices.)
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Mayveena posted:Well GMG has not provided a key so no pre-load for me 
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gently caress, same we have another day before it’s a thing though
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Apr 15, 2019 01:09
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I went through all the trouble of buying all the shares of an island and then buying out the island which in total cost me over 2,000,000 gold and 100 influence and when you get the island under your control, everything on it gets destroyed. Also, once I had all the shares of the island purchased, the owner declared war on me anyway. Just taking their islands by force is WAY less expensive and far easier to do.
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webmeister posted:First-person mode sure is something There are some limitations, you can run, sprint and jump but you can't jump over fences to run in fields/enclosures and meet the people.
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