|
Tiberius Christ posted:Hell yeah I always picked the techno-singularity I imagine a terrified granny in a nursing home being forcibly linked into the new supernet and going 2001 spacebaby insane Also the dark ages one is like full alt-right "get a rope." (Don't pick that one.) I liked the one where everything gets nuked and then the post-human survivors go to space. Best of both worlds IMO.
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 21:58
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 25, 2024 18:27 |
|
|
COMRADES posted:lmao Scratch a liberal... lol
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 22:00
|
|
|
Perry Mason Jar posted:Scratch a liberal... lol Come on now, we are having a civilized conversation here. No need to hurl slurs at each other.
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 22:02
|
|
|
COMRADES posted:I think it has some fundamental flaws to it but also I think a lot of people don't really get what it is? Afaik it's more about bottom to top community rule vs top down federal style rule. Either way they are allies against the bourgeois. Yeah, I honestly don't know what Communism is. All I know is I'm just another guy who grew up hearing "communism is bad" over and over again. I was a kid in the 80s and never heard otherwise.
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 22:07
|
|
|
central dogma posted:Yeah, I honestly don't know what Communism is. All I know is I'm just another guy who grew up hearing "communism is bad" over and over again. I was a kid in the 80s and never heard otherwise. They call it the Red Menace for a reason. Do not listen to their siren song, it leads to your country's destruction. They will later say "well we just had the wrong leaders, if we just had the right guy then it would all work out perfectly, let's try it again".
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 22:11
|
|
|
COMRADES posted:Yeah because if you live on $1.99 a day but suddenly now you live on $2.01 a day you are no longer in poverty. How much is it in kekistan currency?
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 22:13
|
|
|
It's just about who gets paid for the work. Is it the rich fucks who do literally nothing and collect billions (soon to be trillions) or is it the workers who sweat toil and sometimes even die in the Middle East and then can't even afford mental healthcare for their PTSD after watching their buddies get blown up fighting in a foreign land for the profits of the US defense contractors. It's just about optimal distribution of the results of our labor as a species collectively versus "ooh Steve Jobs is building the BIGGEST YACHT EVER LOL BUY SOME DIAMONDS." How many Einsteins/Teslas/Curies/etc. have we lost to stupid poo poo like lack of clean water I wonder. e: Flint still has lead water lol COMRADES fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Oct 27, 2017 |
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 22:14
|
|
|
central dogma posted:Yeah, I honestly don't know what Communism is. All I know is I'm just another guy who grew up hearing "communism is bad" over and over again. I was a kid in the 80s and never heard otherwise. yeah I eat rear end posted:They call it the Red Menace for a reason. Do not listen to their siren song, it leads to your country's destruction. They will later say "well we just had the wrong leaders, if we just had the right guy then it would all work out perfectly, let's try it again".  
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 22:19
|
|
|
Someone give me an actual existing communist country that provides me a better life than what I have in america as an individual making 60k a year.
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 22:20
|
|
|
central dogma posted:Yeah, I honestly don't know what Communism is. All I know is I'm just another guy who grew up hearing "communism is bad" over and over again. I was a kid in the 80s and never heard otherwise. Communism is when the government owns the means of production, like factories. Instead of a boss you've got a bureaucrat running things, you still have a wage and go to work and all that. There is no private ownership and the state owns everything, uses your labor to produce stuff, and keeps the profits from what it sells. Then they use that money to do cool stuff like give their citizens free healthcare, giant train networks and going to the moon, but all this is basically just state capitalism. Having one party in power though is a corrupt as you think and eventually the whole thing falls apart. European socialism is better but is still capitalist, look at the poo poo going down in the EU, Marcon in France just cut taxes on the wealthy by 70%, lol jesus. Current socialist reforms is for businesses to change to worker co-ops, so the workers own the means of their production and decide democratically what to do with the profits. Tiberius Christ fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Oct 27, 2017 |
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 22:20
|
|
|
BrutalistMcDonalds posted:yes! don't listen to the reds. they're dangerous and plot conspiracies. most importantly, do not be tempted by this wicked-killer-cool communist skeleton If you're trying to bait me into saying california is un-american and should either secede or be purged, you have succeeded.
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 22:21
|
|
|
Like seriously what is life like in the USSR at the height of its power?
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 22:22
|
|
|
Magius1337est posted:Like seriously what is life like in the USSR at the height of its power? at best it was like living in america, but a lovely part of it during the 1950s
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 22:24
|
|
|
Magius1337est posted:Like seriously what is life like in the USSR at the height of its power? If you ask the resident stalin dick sucker ITT it was a land of glory and sunshine until the evil West interfered.
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 22:24
|
|
|
Magius1337est posted:Like seriously what is life like in the USSR at the height of its power? north korea ain't exactly my ideal place but yeah Magius1337est posted:Someone give me an actual existing communist country that provides me a better life than what I have in america as an individual making 60k a year.
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 22:25
|
|
|
Democratic Socialism is the new dick sucking but this time Bernie's getting the knob slob
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 22:27
|
|
|
if you don't use the marxist vernacular (which i think is basically unreadable) and explain the basic idea behind it to a middle-aged woman who's worked at a big-box deli counter for the past 20 years you learn it's intuitive common sense. their bosses screw them over and they hate it and dream about stabbing them with the big ol' meat cutting knife
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 22:29
|
|
|
Perry Mason Jar posted:the massive and/or ubiquitous tent cities popping up all over the US are communist false flags Los Angeles is both expanding it's nice, massively neon lit buildings and seeing an EXPLOSION of tent cities in front of all said buildings, it's looking like some sci-fi dystopia.
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 22:31
|
|
|
yeah I eat rear end posted:If you're trying to bait me into saying california is un-american and should either secede or be purged, you have succeeded. I'd say you need Hollywood but I bet if CA broke off to form it's own country all the Hollywood producers would flee to America to get away from Californian rape charges Florida, the new capitol of trash movies
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 22:34
|
|
|
All I'm trying to say is that we should try and follow the Georgia Guidestones to the best of our ability. The prescription for a healthy world and society is literally written in stone, we just have to be brave enough to follow it.
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 22:34
|
|
|
Magius1337est posted:Someone give me an actual existing communist country that provides me a better life than what I have in america as an individual making 60k a year. How do you like smog?
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 22:35
|
|
|
"amazon killing retail is just disruption at work. and look at all the smartphones. socialism didn't invent that!" https://twitter.com/jessefelder/status/920662486172434438   quote:Since 1996, 40% of the U.S. population has seen their inflation-adjusted incomes decline. An additional 20% have stayed roughly flat. Meanwhile, the cost of college tuition, childcare, and healthcare went up 200%, 125%, and 120%, respectively. The proliferation of smartphones has no doubt exacerbated the problem. According to a Motley Fool estimate, roughly $340 billion of U.S. consumer spending has been diverted to cell phones and their service providers over the past decade. This leaves far-less disposable income for things like clothes, shoes, and electronics.
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 22:37
|
|
|
BrutalistMcDonalds posted:if you don't use the marxist vernacular (which i think is basically unreadable) and explain the basic idea behind it to a middle-aged woman who's worked at a big-box deli counter for the past 20 years you learn it's intuitive common sense. their bosses screw them over and they hate it and dream about stabbing them with the big ol' meat cutting knife Yeah it's kind of surprising really how often you get "well yeah duh that's just what I think every time I come in to work!" from people when you don't be all pretentious academic about it. e: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonid_Kupriyanovich
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 22:39
|
|
|
BrutalistMcDonalds posted:oh speaking of hour-long youtubes i got 20 minutes into this last night but the rest has to wait. kotkin is apparently a princeton historian who has the first volume of a massive stalin biography out. Paradoxes of Power is a loving sweet read and really opened my eyes about a lot of western propaganda around Stalin - in particular I saw him as a power hungry dictator that used the veil of communism to advance his own power. When in actuality he was probably the most dedicated revolutionary amongst old Bolsheviks Can’t loving wait until Waiting for Hitler comes out, I’m very interested in seeing Kotkin’s take on the Holodomor and the Great Purge
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 23:02
|
|
|
A Typical Goon posted:Paradoxes of Power is a loving sweet read and really opened my eyes about a lot of western propaganda around Stalin - in particular I saw him as a power hungry dictator that used the veil of communism to advance his own power. When in actuality he was probably the most dedicated revolutionary amongst old Bolsheviks
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 23:13
|
|
|
George Bush started an imperialist war over oil that killed a million Iraqis in 2003 but yeah let’s keep talking about Stalin’s crimes from 100 years ago 
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 23:19
|
|
|
6.5 million likely to starve or die of cholera in Yemen, which has the highest youth population in the world. That's capitalism, baby
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 23:21
|
|
|
Customers didnt really mind 3kg "mobile" phone but they found 20km extension cord somewhat heavy.Perry Mason Jar posted:6.5 million likely to starve in Yemen Perry Mason Jar posted:which has the highest youth population in the world Lady Morgaga fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Oct 27, 2017 |
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 23:24
|
|
|
Magius1337est posted:Like seriously what is life like in the USSR at the height of its power? Far better than life under the Romanovs
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 23:33
|
|
|
Perry Mason Jar posted:6.5 million likely to starve or die of cholera in Yemen, which has the highest youth population in the world. That's capitalism, baby How is it capitalism's fault? Aren't there a bunch of terrorists there?
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 23:34
|
|
|
Perry Mason Jar posted:6.5 million likely to starve or die of cholera in Yemen, which has the highest youth population in the world. That's capitalism, baby islam is a little older than capitalism
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 23:35
|
|
|
Lady Morgaga posted:Customers didnt really mind 3kg "mobile" phone but they found 20km extension cord somewhat heavy. I don't get it. Anyway I found a number: "It is a single index that summarizes the age distribution of a population. In 2015, the median age of the population of Yemen was 19.2 years."
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 23:36
|
|
|
Perry Mason Jar posted:I don't get it. Of course.
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 23:41
|
|
|
Magius1337est posted:How is it capitalism's fault? Rutibex posted:islam is a little older than capitalism There are decidedly not a "bunch of terrorists there". It's capitalism's fault because resource accumulation is behind almost every supposed religious or ideological war. Saudi Arabia is responsible for the genocide - the US sells them the arms to do it and would stay out of the way regardless, same for European powers and Israel that will just let it happen because of oil. If I'm not mistaken the US is set to become (or already is) involved militarily but that was one sentence I read in an article not about the conflict and I can't be arsed to look it up on my phone right now.
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 23:43
|
|
|
Perry Mason Jar posted:There are decidedly not a "bunch of terrorists there". It's capitalism's fault because resource accumulation is behind almost every supposed religious or ideological war. Saudi Arabia is responsible for the genocide - the US sells them the arms to do it and would stay out of the way regardless, same for European powers and Israel that will just let it happen because of oil. If I'm not mistaken the US is set to become (or already is) involved militarily but that was one sentence I read in an article not about the conflict and I can't be arsed to look it up on my phone right now. Isn't Iran giving the terrorists weapons in Yemen to attack Saudi Arabia?
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 23:44
|
|
|
Magius1337est posted:Isn't Iran giving the terrorists weapons in Yemen to attack Saudi Arabia? no
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 23:45
|
|
|
It's capitalism's fault because we openly support Saudi Arabia's totalitarian inhumane bullshit as long as they keep buying weapons from our companies which then just give profits to already super rich people who don't really need it.
COMRADES fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Oct 27, 2017 |
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 23:45
|
|
|
Nah man you don’t get it! America cares about human rights and democracy and that’s not just propaganda for population back homes *provides 100bn in arms to Saudi Arabia and Israel
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 23:48
|
|
|
yeah I eat rear end posted:This is a typical sheltered american college kid communist thing to say. If Trump all of a sudden started "liquidating" american citizens and it wasn't just idealist words on a page I think your tune would change pretty quick. they should maybe instead not hoard grain and murder farm animals to starve the country
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 23:49
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 25, 2024 18:27 |
|
|
It's truly bizarre that liberals accept every claim the state makes at face value. This is the most insane right now possibly, no evidence not even easily refuted "evidence" has been given for this one but here we are.
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2017 23:54
|
|