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Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


kuive posted:

Are there any vendor agnostic or Debian / Ubuntu Linux certifications that are worth the cost/effort?

I've thought about it but I'm leaning more towards the RHCSA however I do know one guy who went through the Intro to Linux course on EdX and he said that going through that was enough to get his LPIC-1. I'm mostly taking it so I so I can at least have some kind of linux history background and not feel so lost when it's discussed.

evol262 posted:

The RHCSA, RHCE, and analogues are relatively vendor-neutral. Yes, there are Red Hat-isms, but the vast majority of stuff you do cross-applies to other distros, and none of the LPIC stuff or anything else comes close.

What do you mean it doesn't come close?

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evol262
Nov 30, 2010
#!/usr/bin/perl

Tab8715 posted:

What do you mean it doesn't come close?

I mean that LPIC-1/2/3 don't map nicely on to RHCSA or RHCE, and the RHCA track is far more technical than anything LPIC offers (RHCE is about on par with some of the LPIC-3 stuff). LPIC-1 is a waste of time. RHCSA will teach you far more than LPIC-1 and maybe LPIC-2. Plus, much as I like open software, some of the stuff the LPIC uses (samba+openldap instead of AD or IPA/RHDS, etc) you will never, ever see in the real world.

The LPIC is fine for a "I want to be a helpdesk guy" cert. Or "I'm the only IT guy for a small shop and I want to know how to do everything Linux related with only Stallman/Debian approved tools". It's a really poo poo "I want to be a Linux admin/engineer at a large shop" (where large is defined as "uses Linux for real-world stuff") track.

FISHMANPET
Mar 3, 2007

Sweet 'N Sour
Can't
Melt
Steel Beams
What is Micorosoft Certified Systems Engineer translate to these days? I'm applying for a job where they want you to have one within 9 months of hire, but obviously that doesn't exist anymore, so I'm wondering what they might actually want.

DrAlexanderTobacco
Jun 11, 2012

Help me find my true dharma

FISHMANPET posted:

What is Micorosoft Certified Systems Engineer translate to these days? I'm applying for a job where they want you to have one within 9 months of hire, but obviously that doesn't exist anymore, so I'm wondering what they might actually want.

Edit: Slightly misinformed on my part; Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer has been replaced by Microsoft Certified Solutions Engineer; Instead of focusing on, say, Server 2008R2, they now focus on a wider area of infrastructure. Server, Desktop, Butt etc. If the company you're applying to doesn't have one in mind just match up what's available to what your company specialises in/what you'll be doing in your job.

DrAlexanderTobacco fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Sep 2, 2014

inignot
Sep 1, 2003

WWBCD?
Passed CCIE-RS written this weekend. Ugh...v5.

rock2much
Feb 6, 2004

Grimey Drawer

inignot posted:

Passed CCIE-RS written this weekend. Ugh...v5.

Congrats! Eventually I want to get this. How many months of suffering (studying) did you put in?

inignot
Sep 1, 2003

WWBCD?
It was just the written.

CarebearViolator
Apr 7, 2011

Wake up!!
Anyone heard anything about this Certified Ethical Hacker (CEH) courses? I'm really interested in heading toward some kind of Forensics cert, and a number of places I've looked into so far seem to have this kind of "hacking" training course are required to get into the actual Forensics courses...

any thoughts and links would be appreciated!
~cv

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Now that I'm getting heavily into the security field, I'm wondering if Cisco certifications are even worth pursuing anymore outside of a career-broadening fashion (which pretty much stops at the CCNP level).

Bloodborne
Sep 24, 2008

CarebearViolator posted:

Anyone heard anything about this Certified Ethical Hacker (CEH) courses? I'm really interested in heading toward some kind of Forensics cert, and a number of places I've looked into so far seem to have this kind of "hacking" training course are required to get into the actual Forensics courses...

any thoughts and links would be appreciated!
~cv

GCFA or GNFA certs? Check them out here under the SOC/Intrusion Detection path. Each of those courses are like :5500bux: though including the cert attempt so I hope your work believes in developing you and have training budgets or you've got deep pockets.

https://www.sans.org/media/security-training/roadmap.pdf

You can go down the list of courses here to figure out what you need to take as prereqs depending on your level of experience.

psydude posted:

Now that I'm getting heavily into the security field, I'm wondering if Cisco certifications are even worth pursuing anymore outside of a career-broadening fashion (which pretty much stops at the CCNP level).

Are you able to take any of the SANS courses in the above pdf? I have a hardon for taking their courses right now so pretty much all my answers are that. 504 or 511 are my next up.

Bloodborne fucked around with this message at 11:53 on Sep 3, 2014

inignot
Sep 1, 2003

WWBCD?

psydude posted:

Now that I'm getting heavily into the security field, I'm wondering if Cisco certifications are even worth pursuing anymore outside of a career-broadening fashion (which pretty much stops at the CCNP level).

Depends on what aspect of security you're doing. The networking knowledge you'll get from Cisco certs will certainly be of value for layer 2 hardening, firewalls, vpns, ids/ips, full packet capture, and network forensics. It's not going to help with host level forensics on a windows box, or reverse engineering malware though. The aforementioned SANs roadmap is a good thing to look at.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

I'll be managing the appliances, doing forensics, implementing rules, and assisting the infrastructure and analysis teams. I'll also be doing a good bit of integration using Ruby. I mean, I've already got a CCNP and worked as a catch-all network engineer in a campus and DC environment, so I'm basically set on R&S. I plan on knocking out the CISSP soon, but that's more of a management-level certification. I'll check out some of the SANS stuff.

Haydez
Apr 8, 2003

EVIL LINK
I'm still waiting for the EC Council to 'approve' me passing the CEH. It's going to delay me starting at WGU for another month because of them. I can't even get them to respond to my e-mails now. I think flying to Kuala Lumpur is an easier option right now.

Wish I didn't shoot myself in the foot by taking it before going to school. I figured it'd be nice to get it out of the way. drat it.

TKovacs2
Sep 21, 2009

1991, 1992, 2009 = Woooooooooooo

TeamIce posted:

So I took ICND1 a few days ago, passed it, found it stupidly easy - was done in about 35 minutes and scored 920/1000 on it.

I've got a structure in place with my boss for a few guaranteed raises on my next 3 certifications -

-CCNA
-finishing my MCSA (need 70-685, already have my 70-680)
- Sonicwall Network Security Basic Administration (we use Sonicwall for a lot of our clients)

If I want to just bang one out and hit my next raise with him, what's going to be my best bet? I've got Todd Lammle's book for the CCNA, which had the first 14 chapters for ICND1, and the last 7 chapters for ICND2. Given that the page count on the ICND2 part is about half that of the ICND1, which I went from starting study to finishing the test in the span of about 2 weeks, could I expect to pull off the ICND2 in a similar timeframe if I study 2-3 hours a day?

I've also read some people advocating taking the 200-120 CCNA composite exam to make things easier to pass, since it will include some questions from the ICND1 - anyone done this?

On the other hand that, I imagine the Sonicwall certification would be fairly easy, looks like it's only about 12-14 hours of actual training material.

The SonicWall basic admin test is open book/open Internet. It could not be easier.

Stan S. Stanman
Nov 18, 2009
I think I asked this question already, but I can't seem to find the post anywhere. Sorry for asking again!

I've finally finished reading through some cissp study guides. Could anyone suggest a good source of practice exams?

TeMpLaR
Jan 13, 2001

"Not A Crook"
I know it's been brought up before, but I want to study for the VCAP-DCD. This looked like a pretty good resource: http://thesaffageek.co.uk/vsphere-5-study-resources/vcap5-dca-dcd/

Anyone have any tips about these? I passed my VCP with 95%+ and feel pretty strong in VMware. How long did others study for? How hard was the exam?

Bone
Feb 15, 2007

We're boned.
I asked this earlier in the thread but I didn't get a response, so I figured I'd try again:

Once you pass the A+ 801, how
long can you wait to take the 802
before it expires? I just passed the 801
and am going to take the 802 in like a
month, so I just want to make sure I have
time.

OhDearGodNo
Jan 3, 2014

Bone posted:

I asked this earlier in the thread but I didn't get a response, so I figured I'd try again:

Once you pass the A+ 801, how
long can you wait to take the 802
before it expires? I just passed the 801
and am going to take the 802 in like a
month, so I just want to make sure I have
time.

I don't have an answer, but you'll be fine with a month between.

Mrit
Sep 26, 2007

by exmarx
Grimey Drawer
Passed my CCENT today with a 947, much easier than expected. Should have my CCNA by January, and then need my Security+ in the spring. But I was wondering if there is much call for IT people with MS, Cisco, and CompTIA certs. My current job requires the CompTIA and I really enjoy both the Cisco and Microsoft lines. Is it ultimately better to specialize or have broad certs across the major vendors?

Pantology
Jan 16, 2006

Dinosaur Gum

TeMpLaR posted:

I know it's been brought up before, but I want to study for the VCAP-DCD. This looked like a pretty good resource: http://thesaffageek.co.uk/vsphere-5-study-resources/vcap5-dca-dcd/

Anyone have any tips about these? I passed my VCP with 95%+ and feel pretty strong in VMware. How long did others study for? How hard was the exam?

I used this and the notes from the vSphere Design Workshop class. The Official VCAP5-DCD book should be a good substitute for the latter.

It's a grueling test. Very long, very deep, and the handful of Visio-style design questions can be real time sinks. Lot of superfluous description in the questions--you need to figure out exactly what they're asking, and what they're not. I know a VCDX that passed on his forth try, so definitely don't underestimate it.

BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006

Bone posted:

I asked this earlier in the thread but I didn't get a response, so I figured I'd try again:

Once you pass the A+ 801, how
long can you wait to take the 802
before it expires? I just passed the 801
and am going to take the 802 in like a
month, so I just want to make sure I have
time.

I think you have almost 3 years to take the second part.

MrBigglesworth
Mar 26, 2005

Lover of Fuzzy Meatloaf

Mrit posted:

Passed my CCENT today with a 947, much easier than expected. Should have my CCNA by January, and then need my Security+ in the spring. But I was wondering if there is much call for IT people with MS, Cisco, and CompTIA certs. My current job requires the CompTIA and I really enjoy both the Cisco and Microsoft lines. Is it ultimately better to specialize or have broad certs across the major vendors?

That is completely job and company dependent. For me I have so much going on with Cisco that another dept handles MS stuff.

OhDearGodNo
Jan 3, 2014

Mrit posted:

Passed my CCENT today with a 947, much easier than expected. Should have my CCNA by January, and then need my Security+ in the spring. But I was wondering if there is much call for IT people with MS, Cisco, and CompTIA certs. My current job requires the CompTIA and I really enjoy both the Cisco and Microsoft lines. Is it ultimately better to specialize or have broad certs across the major vendors?

Depends on what your needs are or where you see yourself.

I live around a ton of DoD contracts, so I have a sec+ and now CCNA. I'm going to finish with a VCP and CCNA DC before moving on from my position. In addition I've done self study in the storage+ curriculum as well as MPLS and BGP courses.

If you look at that from an overview you can paint an environment in which I'm positioning myself to be in.

Digitalpope
Feb 12, 2007

For those in the Stanly VCP class right now, I'm hoping I'm not missing something obvious for the next set of classes / labs...mine are still on topic 9.

quicksand
Nov 21, 2002

A woman is only a woman, but a good cigar is a smoke.
Passed the ICND2 with a 960 the other day. Was really worried going into it, but it was way better than I expected.

Now to work on the VCP-DT and get that before March when my VCP-DCV expires.

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003
I just realized the DoD are requiring S+ certification now, so I've already bought the book to study. Is there a reliable place to pick up discounted test vouchers from? I'll pay the full amount if I have to, but I'd prefer to save a few bucks. My Google is failing me for some reason...

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

berzerkmonkey posted:

I just realized the DoD are requiring S+ certification now, so I've already bought the book to study. Is there a reliable place to pick up discounted test vouchers from? I'll pay the full amount if I have to, but I'd prefer to save a few bucks. My Google is failing me for some reason...

Google is failing you because discounted vouchers aren't really a thing anymore for the major vendors for the tests that have been out a while.

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003
Nuts. $300 it is then...

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

berzerkmonkey posted:

Nuts. $300 it is then...

Welcome to comptia certifications!

TeamIce
Mar 16, 2004
LET JESUS FUCK YOU


Just did ICND2. Found it way easier than ICND1 - took me 20 minutes, 986/1000.

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

Sickening posted:

Welcome to comptia certifications!

No poo poo - I took the A+ and Net+ back when they were "for life." Now I see there is a three-year cycle because "that's what business demands." I'm sure it has nothing to do with CompTIA needing more money to justify its existence... :argh:

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


Holy poo poo, I just got my Stanly Community College - VMware vSphere Course but...

quote:

However, before proceeding, please review the following information:
VMware training is only available to individuals who may be a student in full or part time education, unemployed, career changers or trying to improve their knowledge and are paying for the training themselves. It is not for companies or corporate entities to obtain training for their employees – those individuals must go to a commercial VMware training offering through a VMware authorized commercial training center.

:smith:

I don't see the college listed under approved vITA schools either... EDIT - It's there but you really have to search for it :P

Gucci Loafers fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Sep 9, 2014

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Tab8715 posted:

Holy poo poo, I just got my Stanly Community College - VMware vSphere Course but...


:smith:

I don't see the college listed under approved vITA schools either... [b]EDIT[[b/] - It's there but you really have to search for it :P

What are you sad about exactly?

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Unless your work is paying for your class you're fine:

"trying to improve their knowledge and are paying for the training themselves."

And if they are paying for it then just lie if anyone asks. They Stanly course is basically a rubber stamp already and I'm surprised it's allowed to exist sometimes. Nobody is going to scrutinize why you're taking this course because everyone already knows why.

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


Welp, I registered and it told me it's processing...

From what I've heard, more than once, the classes too are a racket and teach you next to nothing. Are there mandatory class times or anything?

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

Tab8715 posted:

Welp, I registered and it told me it's processing...

From what I've heard, more than once, the classes too are a racket and teach you next to nothing. Are there mandatory class times or anything?

The official ICM classes teach you maybe half of what you'd need to know to actually pass the VCP. They are there so that VMware can make more money off of their certifications.

Digitalpope
Feb 12, 2007

NippleFloss posted:

The official ICM classes teach you maybe half of what you'd need to know to actually pass the VCP. They are there so that VMware can make more money off of their certifications.

I'm guessing that the best way to cover the other half is to use the exam blueprint and backfill the gaps?

Dr. Kayak Paddle
May 10, 2006

New job offer wants me to get my CISSP within 90 days of higher. I've been studying casually with the sybex book and itpro.tv . their material makes the test seem fairly basic though. Anyone here have any insight as to the scope/depth of the material?

Is it mile wide / inch deep like compTIA exams or is it pretty in depth?

OhDearGodNo
Jan 3, 2014

Digitalpope posted:

For those in the Stanly VCP class right now, I'm hoping I'm not missing something obvious for the next set of classes / labs...mine are still on topic 9.

Check the syllabus. He can't release all the labs right away, they are staggered over the next few weeks.

Hell I'm only on lab 6 but that's just been because over been insanely busy.

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evol262
Nov 30, 2010
#!/usr/bin/perl

DirtyFalcon posted:

Is it mile wide / inch deep like compTIA exams or is it pretty in depth?

From what I've heard, there's no real way to know whether you'll have an exam which focuses on one section a mile deep or an inch deep on all 10 with no real way to predict. I know a few CISSPs, and only one who passed the first time. The others walked in banking on network/crypto/Dev questions and got hammered on DR/legal/etc.

Last time I talked about it was a few years ago, so maybe it's changed a bit, but I would go over the whole book and multiple sample exams if I were in your situation.

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