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njsykora posted:God I expect to see Toyota execs spitting blood in anger if they can't get Le Mans this year. I have an image of them trying to find a japanese driver to do Cup so they can win Daytona now. IIRC the reason they bailed on Indy in the first place was the reasoning of it "not creating headlines". I don't know if Hamlin winning got them any like they were expecting? Could be wrong on that. (perhaps mean't in the US, not internationally) .
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FuzzySkinner posted:If this was 1993? IndyCar Series 2017: Takuma Sato's Indy Kamikaze Racing: Only on Panasonic 3DO
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WindyMan posted:IndyCar Series 2017: Takuma Sato's Indy Kamikaze Racing: Only on Panasonic 3DO I'm seeing the rocking fmv intro in my head now.
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https://twitter.com/IndyCar/status/869735658755158016 owns.
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Just realized that in those crash clips, you can see Roger Yasukawa (5 500 starts, now Sato's spotter) and Kosuke Matsuura (4 500 starts, one of the screaming announcers on the Japanese TV coverage). Hideshi Matsuda (4 500 starts) is the other announcer in the clip. Plus Hiro Matsushita (4 500 starts) has been Sato and all of those dudes primary sponsor and benefactor for decades. Pretty cool that 5 of the 9 Japanese drivers to ever start had some involvement with the eventual win. The other 4 are Hattori, Takagi, Mutoh, and Nakano. Hattori runs a K&N NASCAR team, Mutoh and Nakano still run in SuperGT. Dunno about Takagi. Before sunday, he had the highest ever finish for a Japanese driver in the 500.
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Btw Sato's move of the race has to be one that the TV cameras unfortunately kinda missed. With 22 to go, Sato goes three wide on the outside into one, and passes Castroneves and Ed Jones to move into 2nd. I feel like you could SEE Jones/Helio thinking "thats Sato, and he WILL NOT let off" before backing off themselves. What an incredible pass. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_JTJ_hznhQ&t=10417s
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Cygni posted:Btw Sato's move of the race has to be one that the TV cameras unfortunately kinda missed. With 22 to go, Sato goes three wide on the outside into one, and passes Castroneves and Ed Jones to move into 2nd. I feel like you could SEE Jones/Helio thinking "thats Sato, and he WILL NOT let off" before backing off themselves. What an incredible pass. The TV cameras showed it. The morons in the booth totally missed it as it was happening and kind of went back to it as an afterthought after they realized they missed it.
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Yeah I let out a hell of a whoop when he pulled off that pass.
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WindyMan posted:The TV cameras showed it. The morons in the booth totally missed it as it was happening and kind of went back to it as an afterthought after they realized they missed it. Cheever - "now this is what we call in indycar 'an overtake' this is important as the goal of the race is to finish before the other cars. Now, a car is..."
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https://twitter.com/nascarcasm/status/869612852449075200
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rear end struggle posted:Cheever - "now this is what we call in indycar 'an overtake' this is important as the goal of the race is to finish before the other cars. Now, a car is..." See, overtaking a car is like adding credit to your credit card...
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rear end struggle posted:For me the most amazing thing was Bourdais's crash. The fact is he hit the wall in the same place in almost the same way that Gordon Smiley did. Traveling faster too. Smiley's body was liquified and Bourdais will race again. If that isn't a testament to something. Delayed, but I don't think the DW12 was designed with the ability to mount a halo or similar device without serious compromises. I do recall reading somewhere (maybe here, maybe elsewhere) that it's the main safety shortcoming of it. I could also be wrong there. Obviously, with Jules and Justin's crashes, combined with the incident at Pocono last year and Dixon's this year where a car went on top of another car, the halo is inevitable, not just for the car getting launched, but the car doing the launching (both the launching cars nearly had the drivers hit in the head).
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I'd like them to add head protection before I see someone land on the wall helmet down on live TV.
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I think we all do. We'll see it soon enough in either F1 or Indy. Hopefully not too late, like they usually are 
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Wehrlein could have easily been killed in his crash at Monaco this weekend. Tire barriers aren't exactly soft.
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iospace posted:I think we all do. We'll see it soon enough in either F1 or Indy. It's already too late
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Knowing ims though I'm sure they'll just up the speed as it has the illusion of safety exists and then there will be a tony renna style crash that kills 80 spectators and the sport will end
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What I think was funny about the Sato victory was everyone predicting he'd do a 1982 "Kevin Cogan"-style wreck on Alonso at the start. Turns out you know...he ends up winning the race. This does feel like an "upset". While Taku ran very well during the month, and has historically had drives like this before? It always seems his aggressive style has bite him in he rear end sadly. (Perfect examples being the 2004 Canada GP Qualifications and the 2013 Indy 500). He ran well and put himself in the position to win the race. But I didn't think he'd be able to pull it out in the end. I thought ultimately his engine would blow and we'd see Helio getting number 4. But the Speedway is very bizarre with 20 laps to go It "picks" the winners, and ultimately it picked Sato to be the champion. Still? A very bizarre race. Ed Jones almost won the drat thing. A rookie in a Dale Coyne car. Not to mention Max Chilton who was routinely used as a punchline in the f1 thread But that's Indy This seems like one of those races we'll look back on and go "Wait.That actually HAPPENED?" in a lot of ways FuzzySkinner fucked around with this message at 08:15 on May 31, 2017 |
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Cygni posted:The other 4 are Hattori, Takagi, Mutoh, and Nakano. Hattori runs a K&N NASCAR team, Mutoh and Nakano still run in SuperGT. Dunno about Takagi. Before sunday, he had the highest ever finish for a Japanese driver in the 500. Takagi raced Super GT/Super Formula for a few years, I think he even won a Super GT championship, and now is the team director for the #38 ZENT Cerumo Lexus team in Super GT, which I believe is also leading the championship so far this season.
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FuzzySkinner posted:Not to mention Max Chilton who was routinely used as a punchline in the f1 thread It should be noted, for those of you who don't follow F1, that Chilton is not at all worthy of being used as a punchline. He's just an average pay driver. Arguably slightly above average since he basically doesn't crash. For a race where the goal is to stay out of trouble and be in the right place at the end, it's not particularly surprising that he did well.
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May 31, 2017 12:13
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FuzzySkinner posted:It "picks" the winners, and ultimately it picked Sato to be the champion. I can't count the number of drivers and other people I've heard say that the Speedway "picks" the winners, and I happen to completely agree with that. You need a decent car and skill to put yourself in position to win, but ultimately the racing gods determine the winner. If you've ever wondered how to get seats at Indy, this map shows what kind of seniority you need for all the various sections
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rear end struggle posted:It's already too late True  wicka posted:It should be noted, for those of you who don't follow F1, that Chilton is not at all worthy of being used as a punchline. He's just an average pay driver. Arguably slightly above average since he basically doesn't crash. For a race where the goal is to stay out of trouble and be in the right place at the end, it's not particularly surprising that he did well. He did race for Marussia, so yeah, saying Max was bad based on F1 would be a mistake (same with Rossi. Both were on teams that had no chance. AS IN THE SAME TEAM). iospace fucked around with this message at 14:09 on May 31, 2017 |
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KingShibby posted:I can't count the number of drivers and other people I've heard say that the Speedway "picks" the winners, and I happen to completely agree with that. You need a decent car and skill to put yourself in position to win, but ultimately the racing gods determine the winner. A/B/E penthouse seats are loving amazing. Only chance I'll ever get at those is Carb Day.
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Crossover post, ish: http://www.racer.com/wec-le-mans/item/141042-kanaan-to-sub-for-bourdais-at-le-mans TK is taking Bourdais spot at Le Mans 
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Always wanted to see Vin Diesel in Le Mans
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wicka posted:It should be noted, for those of you who don't follow F1, that Chilton is not at all worthy of being used as a punchline. He's just an average pay driver. Arguably slightly above average since he basically doesn't crash. For a race where the goal is to stay out of trouble and be in the right place at the end, it's not particularly surprising that he did well. Yeah he's no Lance Stroll.
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harperdc posted:Takagi raced Super GT/Super Formula for a few years, I think he even won a Super GT championship, and now is the team director for the #38 ZENT Cerumo Lexus team in Super GT, which I believe is also leading the championship so far this season. Takagi was a talent that never matured sadly. He was definitely the best Japanese driver that came to CART. What happened to Naoki Hattori? Did he retire after 2005? Human Grand Prix fucked around with this message at 15:22 on May 31, 2017 |
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Let's look at points shall-  1st Helio - 245. 2nd Pagenaud, Sato, and Dixon - 234 (not doing tiebreakers) 5th Rossi - 190 Honda is only 3 points back of Chevy too (gotta love double 500 points) e: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5VPBb3EmGE&t=30s iospace fucked around with this message at 17:44 on May 31, 2017 |
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KingShibby posted:If you've ever wondered how to get seats at Indy, this map shows what kind of seniority you need for all the various sections
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What seating gets you the best view of the pits?
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Norns posted:What seating gets you the best view of the pits? Front row of the paddock penthouse. Your kids will love that view when they grow up.
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Bentai posted:And this is why I'll probably never end up going. Why not? I was able to get two tickets in the green section of A no problem with zero seniority a couple years back - middle of box 1. I liked them better than my dad's current seats at the very top of box 34 which is technically in that 25+ year seniority area - the problem there is the upper deck obstructs your view of any monitors. Norns posted:What seating gets you the best view of the pits? C, Paddock, and A all have good views of the pits. The south end of A is right around pit exit. I'd still recommend being as far south in A as possible, though. Passing mainly happens entering 1 and entering 3, so you want a good view of those areas. C and Paddock would have a poor view of 1, and the cars coming down the straight blow by so quickly there isn't a whole lot to see.
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Bentai posted:And this is why I'll probably never end up going. Pfft I've had the same seats literally on the Yard of Bricks for 3 years now, it may only be 8 rows up but they're perfect for all the pre-race & post-race pageantry. Seats aren't meant to be sat in for the entirety of the race, they also come with GA and walking around the infield is the best part Norns posted:What seating gets you the best view of the pits? For little to no seniority, Tower Terrace and Paddock Box are great
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Human Grand Prix posted:What happened to Naoki Hattori? Did he retire after 2005? Around that time, I believe. Another guy who warrants mention is Hideki Noda, who was the only Japanese driver to win an American open wheel sanctioned event before Sato (Indy Lights race at Portland in '97, which was no small feat considering the Lights field that year)
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rear end struggle posted:Knowing ims though I'm sure they'll just up the speed as it has the illusion of safety exists and then there will be a tony renna style crash that kills 80 spectators and the sport will end just saying, you are starting down a path of posts that led everyone itt to hate me save a few and if you continue down this logical path you will suffer the same fate I have
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VikingSkull posted:just saying, you are starting down a path of posts that led everyone itt to hate me save a few and if you continue down this logical path you will suffer the same fate I have Was your argument the cars needed to slow down, or that we didn't need additional safety cuz gently caress it people will die anyway?
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Fauxhawk Express posted:Around that time, I believe. http://www.champcarstats.com/atlantic/year/1989e.htm King Hiro technically beat him when he won races in the Atlantic/Pacific Series in 1989 at Long Beach. (SCCA sanctioned, but I still count it) Roger Yasukawa also won a race in the Atlantics in 2002 at Milwaukee.
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Norns posted:Was your argument the cars needed to slow down, or that we didn't need additional safety cuz gently caress it people will die anyway? if you think it's the latter you've never read any of my posts in any racing thread, I'm probably the only person in any of them that can say "I've seen someone close die 50 yards from me"
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