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baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Uh

Our hot dogs come in cans. If you want American style in plastic packages, head to the chiller section friend!

I don't know what a posh dog is but I don't think you're meant to eat it

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ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
i think he's referring to jumbo frankfurters

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

I call them big hot dogs

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Pochoclo posted:

Let's leave the whole politics thing out of the way for a sec, I have a really important question: do you have normal hot dogs here in the UK? All I've seen so far is these massive "posh dogs" and sausages. I guess what I want is "american style"?

Frankfurters? Yeah, we have those. Check a supermarket, or a fast-food place if you want 'em ready-made.

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
Not the long ones. I think this is the most illustrative picture I can muster



I just haven't found any, but maybe I was looking for the wrong form factor. I guess I'll have to spend some real time at the Tesco/Waitrose. Definitely none at the M&S

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

Tesco's definitely does them.

Biggus Dickus
May 18, 2005

Roadies know where to focus the spotlight.

Prince John posted:

Isn't the difference that Chrome doesn't offer encryption of its password database with a master password?

Well neither (at least by default) do the others really - otherwise you would have to enter the master password every time you wanted to access an individual one.

It would be like incorporating KeePass into your browser which sounds like a pretty good idea to me.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Party Boat posted:

Mr Biffo's still writing online

http://www.digitiser2000.com

By 'eck and he's as good as ever: http://www.digitiser2000.com/main-page/10-grossly-underrated-playstation-games

"10 Grossly Underrated PS Games" and it's a list of 10 very underrated PS games including personal favorite of mine Jumping Flash.

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
what the hell, M&S really does call them Posh Dogs



that's a bit of work going into convincing middle-class people that it's okay to eat hot dogs

yea just look for the jumbo frankfurters at Sainsbury's

ronya fucked around with this message at 18:04 on May 13, 2017

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Pochoclo posted:

Not the long ones. I think this is the most illustrative picture I can muster



I just haven't found any, but maybe I was looking for the wrong form factor. I guess I'll have to spend some real time at the Tesco/Waitrose. Definitely none at the M&S

Literally anywhere (even a corner shop) will have those in tins - look near the beans. They might not be exactly as long (you can get taller cans sometimes) but those are our basic hotdogs. But a lot of places have frankfurters in their deli-like section or whatever

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

Pochoclo posted:

Definitely none at the M&S

M&S is for retired old people and Daily Mail readers

Except the iced spiced buns, they're nice

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Don't really know what you were expecting at M&S. Posh dogs sounds about right for them. Do your shopping at the Co-op

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

Miftan posted:

Don't really know what you were expecting at M&S. Posh dogs sounds about right for them. Do your shopping at the Co-op

Coop own brand posh salt and vinegar crisps phwoah what an experience

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

MrL_JaKiri posted:

Coop own brand posh salt and vinegar crisps phwoah what an experience

Coop own brand stuff isn't bad and gives me loads of money back, plus a tiny bit to charity which I like. They also have the nicest cashiers, followed by sainsburys

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
Two of my local coops cashiers are in the Labour party, one is a blairite councillor and the other is a socialist and they have massive arguments about it in the shop

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

baka kaba posted:

Literally anywhere (even a corner shop) will have those in tins - look near the beans. They might not be exactly as long (you can get taller cans sometimes) but those are our basic hotdogs. But a lot of places have frankfurters in their deli-like section or whatever

Having lived for a decade in the US, jarred hot dogs are literally one of the most 'what in the actual gently caress' things when I came back here. BRITAIN YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG.

Herta hotdogs are ok, though we lack the correct length buns to accommodate them. Costco do an own-brand kosher hot dog that is ok I guess if you happen to fulfil the criteria to sign up with them. Ye OIde Oak 'US Style' hotdogs are an international insult on the same level as Olde English Malt Liquor.

Edit: Or marry an American who is president of her local sorority chapter in the UK and thus has contacts with lots of Americans on US Air Force bases in the UK and can thus source Nathans brand etc from their PX. Note: availability of such americans is limited.

feedmegin fucked around with this message at 18:32 on May 13, 2017

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Frankfurters are naff.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

feedmegin posted:

Having lived for a decade in the US, jarred hot dogs are literally one of the most 'what in the actual gently caress' things when I came back here. BRITAIN YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG.

Herta hotdogs are ok, though we lack the correct length buns to accommodate them. Costco do an own-brand kosher hot dog that is ok I guess if you happen to fulfil the criteria to sign up with them. Ye OIde Oak 'US Style' hotdogs are an international insult on the same level as Olde English Malt Liquor.

Edit: Or marry an American who is president of her local sorority chapter in the UK and thus has contacts with lots of Americans on US Air Force bases in the UK and can thus source Nathans brand etc from their PX. Note: availability of such americans is limited.

Did someone say "weird European versions of American foods"?

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
M&S food is not that expensive, they make their money on the posh wine.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Where the gently caress is Jeremy Hunt and why aren't the papers calling for his resignation?

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer
Just lol at anyone who lives where you have a choice of where to shop

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.
Those digusting severed penises in jars we call hot dogs are revolting. Gimme a sausage-inna-bun any day.

Strom Cuzewon posted:

Where the gently caress is Jeremy Hunt and why aren't the papers calling for his resignation?

Doing what he normally does when the NHS is undergoing something caused by his toxic loving touch - avoiding the press.
If strikes, critical underfunding, the NHS being labelled as an humanitarian crisis by the Red Cross don't prompt calls for his resignation, nothing will loving budge him.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

Pesky Splinter posted:

Those digusting severed penises in jars we call hot dogs are revolting. Gimme a sausage-inna-bun any day.

Buy one or... I'll cut my throat?

endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009

by Fritz the Horse

Scikar posted:

Where do you get the time from to cover for doctors on training when there is already a 20% staff shortfall? How do doctors work in the meantime while only some of them have been trained for the new system?

It's not uncommon to find that there exists only one model of device in the world to perform a particular test, in which case it is likely to be made in exactly the same way now as it was when it was first invented. So your proposal now includes in some cases funding the production of an entirely new device just so it can do the exact same job but electronically integrated (not that I would mind necessarily, my company exists to do exactly this but you're on another planet if you think this is trivial). "Conform or die" is possibly the most crass approach you could take - suppose the only device that tests for a disease which is obscure, but fatal if untreated, doesn't work with your new system. What point do you choose to decide when enough people could die that it is worth the expense? Hint: if your answer is 1 death is too many then your costs for this are somewhere along the lines of 'astronomical'.

See, when you make sloppy strawmen by not reading the discussion you're replying to it's easy to get outraged.

But no, my argument was solely "we have the technology", not "the NHS has the budget". The EU now has a very good set of notes on this very problem, and the technological expertise can be readily hired.

My entire point was "this disaster is solely on the Tories (and New Labour) being penny wise and pound foolish, because we already know how to patch and upgrade and manage and migrate computers".

EDIT: Your very company does this thing. It's not hard to do, and you can presumably be contracted to do this very thing and reliably succeed. It's time-consuming and expensive, but doesn't require any solutions we don't know how to build.

EDIT the second: And as I well know, solving this situation fast would have an astronomical price tag... but incidents like this aren't cheap either. People die, and the question is "how much IT budget can we put in to prevent needless death?".

endlessmonotony fucked around with this message at 19:08 on May 13, 2017

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer
*travels on rickety bus that may or may not have an ancient curse on it, for an hour and arrives at tiny Sainburies local* Ahhhh civilization.

Quotey
Aug 16, 2006

We went out for lunch and then we stopped for some bubble tea.

quote:

Where the gently caress is Jeremy Hunt and why aren't the papers calling for his resignation?



alternatively, perhaps slightly more relevant one i found while looking for the hammock:

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

I don't think you can really blame this one on Labour at all. When they were last in power XP was still a supported operating system.

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.

Bobstar posted:

Buy one or... I'll cut my throat?

Guaranteed no rat. 100% organic. All pork shaved before mixing.

endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009

by Fritz the Horse

Irony Be My Shield posted:

I don't think you can really blame this one on Labour at all. When they were last in power XP was still a supported operating system.

Not challenging the Tories on their bullshit on the budget is plenty to blame them for.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Regarde Aduck posted:

*travels on rickety bus that may or may not have an ancient curse on it, for an hour and arrives at tiny Sainburies local* Ahhhh civilization.

Oh, so you live somewhere where there are buses, eh, posh boy? :smuggo:

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

Pesky Splinter posted:

Guaranteed no rat. 100% organic. All pork shaved before mixing.

Right book and everything :hfive:

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.

Bobstar posted:

Right book and everything :hfive:

Favourite book too :hfive:

Scikar
Nov 20, 2005

5? Seriously?

endlessmonotony posted:

See, when you make sloppy strawmen by not reading the discussion you're replying to it's easy to get outraged.

But no, my argument was solely "we have the technology", not "the NHS has the budget". The EU now has a very good set of notes on this very problem, and the technological expertise can be readily hired.

My entire point was "this disaster is solely on the Tories (and New Labour) being penny wise and pound foolish, because we already know how to patch and upgrade and manage and migrate computers".

EDIT: Your very company does this thing. It's not hard to do, and you can presumably be contracted to do this very thing and reliably succeed. It's time-consuming and expensive, but doesn't require any solutions we don't know how to build.

EDIT the second: And as I well know, solving this situation fast would have an astronomical price tag... but incidents like this aren't cheap either. People die, and the question is "how much IT budget can we put in to prevent needless death?".

I'm not invoking a strawman at all, my entire point is that it is not the technical aspect which causes NHS IT projects to fail, it's the part where you have to rapidly train all of the staff who don't have any spare time available for it. The NHS needs more doctors and nurses so that you can safely take some of their time for this training. You can make the IT budget as big as you want and the project will still fail because the clinical staff still won't have the spare capacity to transition over to using it.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Regarde Aduck posted:

*travels on rickety bus that may or may not have an ancient curse on it, for an hour and arrives at tiny Sainburies local* Ahhhh civilization.

i have a tesco express at the end of my road with a grocery store next to it and a sainsburies and lidl within walking distance if you don't mind a bit of a long walk

i have a car though so i drive to them

endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009

by Fritz the Horse

Scikar posted:

I'm not invoking a strawman at all, my entire point is that it is not the technical aspect which causes NHS IT projects to fail, it's the part where you have to rapidly train all of the staff who don't have any spare time available for it. The NHS needs more doctors and nurses so that you can safely take some of their time for this training. You can make the IT budget as big as you want and the project will still fail because the clinical staff still won't have the spare capacity to transition over to using it.

... so you're angrily agreeing with me?

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

endlessmonotony posted:

... so you're angrily agreeing with me?

No they're saying your "it's simple guys, like technology #whoa" thing you've been on this whole time is dumb

It's a big job, it's complicated, it's hard to get right, it's tough to actually implement it in the real world. You've had multiple people pointing out the difficulties they face in even minor changes in their own trusts and offices

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
It's really simple we need to disrupt the nhs tech paradigm with some new apps and a ball pit. Tech to the rescue once again!

Praseodymi
Aug 26, 2010

Pesky Splinter posted:

Favourite book too :hfive:

If you're talking about Night Watch then yeah, it's the best.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Oberleutnant posted:

It's really simple we need to disrupt the nhs tech paradigm with some new apps and a ball pit. Tech to the rescue once again!

Hmm I think I've worked out where Jeremy Hunt is hiding

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

ronya posted:

what the hell, M&S really does call them Posh Dogs



that's a bit of work going into convincing middle-class people that it's okay to eat hot dogs
David Cameron hosed a Posh Dog.

MikeCrotch posted:

Two of my local coops cashiers are in the Labour party, one is a blairite councillor and the other is a socialist and they have massive arguments about it in the shop
Sounds like a sit com plot.

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