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Death Panel Czar
Apr 1, 2012

Too dangerous for a full sensory injection... That level of shitposting means they're almost non-human!

Ok Comboomer posted:

Apparently the Crush Mini gets really good reviews on MusiciansFriend? I didn't know people really loved anything in the orange crush line. Its definitely kawaii
I got my mom the 15W Crush as a christmas gift a couple years back and it seemed pretty legit for the price. I also like how the 120W head sounds, although I’ve never owned one.

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Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



gently caress, I wanna be cool like Trevor Peres of Obituary and use a Strat thru a Rat. It blows me away how they sound every time - especially live thru their JCM 800/900's. Like... just amazing.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

Mr. Humalong posted:

Hi, I have a question that I figure some of you may be able to help me with. I work 16 hours a day basically every day and my job involves a lot of sitting around killing time, so I’ve been debating the idea of taking a cheap guitar and a small amp into work and practicing during my downtime. Problem is, I have no idea how cheap I can go before it would become a detriment to my practicing and I’m not sure what a decent, portable amp would look like. I’m a bass player trying to get better at guitar (honestly you have too many strings) and with bass almost any amp works. I know that’s not quite the case in this situation, and I really don’t think I could get away with using my giant Ampeg.

Anyone have suggestions? Would one of those tiny 1w amps be a decent enough choice? If so, which would you recommend? I don’t trust reviews on merchant sites.

If it''s just noodling at work maybe one of these?
https://voxamps.com/en-gb/series/headphone-amps-en-gb/

Siivola
Dec 23, 2012

Vintersorg posted:

gently caress, I wanna be cool like Trevor Peres of Obituary and use a Strat thru a Rat. It blows me away how they sound every time - especially live thru their JCM 800/900's. Like... just amazing.


An HSS strat is a tiny bit cheaty but oh man I wish I was half as cool.

Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
I mean, that's more or less been Andreas Kisser's setup of choice for his Strats as well, and Sepultura, even without the Cavaleras, has always been crushing it live.

WorldIndustries
Dec 21, 2004

Mr. Humalong posted:

Hi, I have a question that I figure some of you may be able to help me with. I work 16 hours a day basically every day and my job involves a lot of sitting around killing time, so I’ve been debating the idea of taking a cheap guitar and a small amp into work and practicing during my downtime. Problem is, I have no idea how cheap I can go before it would become a detriment to my practicing and I’m not sure what a decent, portable amp would look like. I’m a bass player trying to get better at guitar (honestly you have too many strings) and with bass almost any amp works. I know that’s not quite the case in this situation, and I really don’t think I could get away with using my giant Ampeg.

Anyone have suggestions? Would one of those tiny 1w amps be a decent enough choice? If so, which would you recommend? I don’t trust reviews on merchant sites.

I love my THR 10 and now that the new models are out you can find the originals used for under 200 pretty easily. The THR II series seems cool but more for the phone control and features like that.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
I got a good deal on a used audio interface today and bought the basic version of bias fx2 then whoops spent like 4 hours loving with amps and pedals

Captain Apollo
Jun 24, 2003

King of the Pilots, CFI
Why doesn’t the THR have a looper built in.

Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Something dumb just occurred to me: Why the gently caress are some tone-chasers obsessed with Metallica and their 80's guitar tone? Like it's probably a combination of bias (I don't much care about Metallica outside of "Dyers' Eve", my favorite song of them) and a little bit of insomnia talking here, but wasn't their tone decidedly mundane?

Lumpy
Apr 26, 2002

La! La! La! Laaaa!



College Slice

Wark Say posted:

Something dumb just occurred to me: Why the gently caress are some tone-chasers obsessed with Metallica and their 80's guitar tone? Like it's probably a combination of bias (I don't much care about Metallica outside of "Dyers' Eve", my favorite song of them) and a little bit of insomnia talking here, but wasn't their tone decidedly mundane?

I still love the ..And Justice For All tone. Don't you judge me for chasing it!! *goes and chases tone in corner*

But seriously, I think that album (which might not be the 80's tone you are referring to) was the first "OMG HEAVY AS gently caress METAL" thing many people got into. It was the gateway drug to earlier Metallica and the other heavy stuff of the time, so I imagine there is a lot of nostalgia involved. At least there is for me!

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

Wark Say posted:

Something dumb just occurred to me: Why the gently caress are some tone-chasers obsessed with Metallica and their 80's guitar tone? Like it's probably a combination of bias (I don't much care about Metallica outside of "Dyers' Eve", my favorite song of them) and a little bit of insomnia talking here, but wasn't their tone decidedly mundane?

Cause they're loving idiots.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

Fun option: because the bass is gone so you only hear guitars, drums and vocals, which makes the guitar tone seem fuller? Idk, I hate listening to that album because I like bass.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

Bass is so good, I need to pick one up someday

Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Brawnfire posted:

Bass is so good, I need to pick one up someday
Do it. Just take into account that strings are hella expensive.

Been purchasing strings a lot more often now that I have a main and a backup 8-string and use them more frequently, and it surprises how it's... like 15-to-20 bucks of difference between that and a 4-string set for bass.

Simone Poodoin
Jun 26, 2003

Che storia figata, ragazzo!



Just get flats or tapes and never change them imho

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

I see a fair number of inexpensive Ibanez basses around here, are they decent enough to start with?

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Brawnfire posted:

Bass is so good, I need to pick one up someday

Mustang Bass is best bass. Seafoam Green is best color. Short scale basses for wayward guitar goons

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Brawnfire posted:

I see a fair number of inexpensive Ibanez basses around here, are they decent enough to start with?

Yes, but I recommend playing around with basses in person if possible. You really want to buy something that feels good to play and hold. I ended up with a Gretsch Junior Jet 2 because of how nice it fit me when I tried it at a store, combined with having an awesome tone for a short scale.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Brawnfire posted:

I see a fair number of inexpensive Ibanez basses around here, are they decent enough to start with?

Try out a Yamaha TRBX304, they're cheap, very well made for the price, very well and sound great. I'd be getting one myself if I wasn't already on the hook for a bass. And the Gretsch is a fantastic bass too, definitely try that out.

MockingQuantum
Jan 20, 2012



Definitely try out basses before buying, neck dive is real and may be a deal breaker depending on your build/patience for learning to deal with it.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

I'm going to ask a question that I probably already know the answer to, but... are there decent acoustic-electric basses? I'm far more of an acoustic person than an electric person, both in terms of play and visual aesthetic, and I've seen some very attractive-looking acoustic basses out there. I'm a soft, folk singer-songwriter so I don't think I'd need anything too punchy, and the option of playing around with it without plugging it in is nice, and I'd be able to plug it into my interface for recording... I don't know, keeping my options open at present.

Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
I've recorded several bands with several types of acoustic/acoustic-electric basses across the years. The Bass that made the biggest impression on me was a relatively cheap Alvarez (AB60CE? It's in the storage rn, don't have it with me atm) that several people used in the span of like 3 years so I got convinced that it did the job well enough that I decided to buy one for the studio and even when I've sold a bunch of my equipment, it's one of the things that survived my 2017 purge. I think you can grab one of 'em somewhere in the 300 range used. Pretty solid little fuckers. :)

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Brawnfire posted:

I'm far more of an acoustic person than an electric person, both in terms of play and visual aesthetic, and I've seen some very attractive-looking acoustic basses out there.

lol

all acoustic bass guitars are for weebs. only upright bass is ok

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

Ok Comboomer posted:

lol

all acoustic bass guitars are for weebs. only upright bass is ok

Like... anime people? Why?

DOPE FIEND KILLA G
Jun 4, 2011

Brawnfire posted:

I'm going to ask a question that I probably already know the answer to, but... are there decent acoustic-electric basses? I'm far more of an acoustic person than an electric person, both in terms of play and visual aesthetic, and I've seen some very attractive-looking acoustic basses out there. I'm a soft, folk singer-songwriter so I don't think I'd need anything too punchy, and the option of playing around with it without plugging it in is nice, and I'd be able to plug it into my interface for recording... I don't know, keeping my options open at present.

i have a warwick alien 5 string. its cool

Huxley
Oct 10, 2012



Grimey Drawer
Get a U-bass.

Simone Poodoin
Jun 26, 2003

Che storia figata, ragazzo!



Huxley posted:

Get a U-bass.

This is the correct answer, the U-Bass is awesome

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

My friend has one of those and swears by it... It's kind of fun but not quite as oomphy as I prefer

Mr. Humalong
May 7, 2007

Booyah- posted:

I love my THR 10 and now that the new models are out you can find the originals used for under 200 pretty easily. The THR II series seems cool but more for the phone control and features like that.

Definitely going to look into this. Appreciate all the other posts replying to me as well but I’m on mobile and quoting multiple people is a hassle.

As for the guitar, I’m hearing good things about Harley Benton. Would this be a good idea? My home guitar is a Squier so it’s not like I’m playing a $3000 American guitar or anything, but I don’t want to end up playing an early 00s Rogue-tier guitar if that makes sense.


Also for basses you really want to make sure the neck and bridge are solid. Everything else is pretty subjective, but those two are definite determiners of quality.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

Brawnfire posted:

I see a fair number of inexpensive Ibanez basses around here, are they decent enough to start with?

I got one of these for about £200



Ibanez ATK-200-TP
|t has a dual humbucker active pickup so gives me loads of sounds, which is what I wanted cos I am no bass player but wanted to record stuff, I have been really happy with it.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Brawnfire posted:

I'm going to ask a question that I probably already know the answer to, but... are there decent acoustic-electric basses? I'm far more of an acoustic person than an electric person, both in terms of play and visual aesthetic, and I've seen some very attractive-looking acoustic basses out there. I'm a soft, folk singer-songwriter so I don't think I'd need anything too punchy, and the option of playing around with it without plugging it in is nice, and I'd be able to plug it into my interface for recording... I don't know, keeping my options open at present.

You should probably try one out, I dunno if they'd be loud enough for you - especially as accompaniment, but maybe they would! But they don't project or cut through anything like, say, an acoustic guitar - they just don't put out enough energy, especially if you're not playing up the neck

Another option is to get a lil' portable bass amp, they can be surprisingly loud (indoors anyway), and use that for an electric bass or to beef up the sound of an electro-acoustic one. And honestly I think instrument designs get way more creative with basses, for some reason - if you see something weird it's way more likely to be a bass. (Same goes for seeing something with a billion knobs) So if it's aesthetic you're going for, there's a lot of options out there

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

I've tried some in-store and, yeah, they are a bit on the quiet side. Obviously I'd love an upright double-bass but those cost a poo poo ton.

But aesthetically speaking, for some reason I just love a hollow/semihollow body. I pulled the trigger on picking up a Firefly for the semi-hollow quality.

Simone Poodoin
Jun 26, 2003

Che storia figata, ragazzo!



Brawnfire posted:

But aesthetically speaking, for some reason I just love a hollow/semihollow body.

:same:

If you're like me and hate money, you can get one of these



It won't work at all acoustically if you're playing with someone else, but it's gorgeous!

creamcorn
Oct 26, 2007

automatic gun for fast, continuous firing

Brawnfire posted:

I'm going to ask a question that I probably already know the answer to, but... are there decent acoustic-electric basses? I'm far more of an acoustic person than an electric person, both in terms of play and visual aesthetic, and I've seen some very attractive-looking acoustic basses out there. I'm a soft, folk singer-songwriter so I don't think I'd need anything too punchy, and the option of playing around with it without plugging it in is nice, and I'd be able to plug it into my interface for recording... I don't know, keeping my options open at present.

no, acoustic basses loving suck. they're not loud enough acoustically to hear in a band context, and they're not particularly fun to play solo imo (the timbre just isn't great). if you want something in the lower registers for what you're doing, just play the low strings of an electric guitar. or the aforementioned u-bass with rubber strings, those things are awesome!


Simone Poodoin posted:

Just get flats or tapes and never change them imho

this is the pro move, i've had the same pair of flats on my main bass for 2 years now and they just keep getting tastier-sounding. jamerson used the same pair for like ten years while playing on 95% of motown's output, and sent the string back to the company when it finally broke and asked for it to be welded back together. the gunk brings the funk (and the bacteria, wash your hands post-playing if you do this)

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

BonHair posted:

Fun option: because the bass is gone so you only hear guitars, drums and vocals, which makes the guitar tone seem fuller? Idk, I hate listening to that album because I like bass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mwxzcUPKD0

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.
I've always been a geetar player so dumb bass question:

Can you plug a bass into a guitar amp? I imagine you could you'd just get a pretty lovely bass response compared to a proper bass amp?

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Or just do what I'm doing and have flats on one bass and roundwounds on another. In the scheme of things bass strings aren't really that expensive unless you're a mad slapper who needs bright steels and gig most nights. It will come down to the tone you want to maintain and you're going to experiment with strings a great deal anyway in the course of finding that out anyway.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Zaphod42 posted:

I've always been a geetar player so dumb bass question:

Can you plug a bass into a guitar amp? I imagine you could you'd just get a pretty lovely bass response compared to a proper bass amp?

You can and I have done it, but it sounds like crap and supposedly you risk damaging it if you turn it up too much because it's not built for the kind of tone you're putting out. I would only consider it suitable for low-volume practice if you have nothing else.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
You need a lot more wattage for bass too to shift the air and drive the speakers, so even though a bass can sound good through something like my Bluesbreaker you can't get the volume, it craps out way before that

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Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Just do the irresponsible thing: :byodood: "Get a Bassman!"

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