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Achmed Jones posted:The bass thread here in ML says that playing a bass through a guitar amp will blow it out in the first post. I believe y'all when you say it won't, but it'd be cool to not spread misinformation Dang that OP hasn’t been edited in almost 10 years. It does mention my bass teacher from back then though so that’s pretty cool.
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Everything I have heard makes it sound like it depends on what the amp is and how loud you're blasting it, so maybe it is on a case by case basis? I kinda just assumed trying it through a decent sized/quality combo amp would be fine on low volume but if I tried playing my active bass through my tiny Boss Katana mini that I might get an unfortunate situation. I literally don't know anything so don't listen to me I went out and tried a handful of guitars I've never played before cause my criteria for what I want to get are very the opposite of my current/past guitars and to my luck the one I liked playing most was the cheapest rear end Squier bullet telecaster in the store. I didn't just buy that one even though it was the best color (pastel turquoise) cause I like buying stuff second hand and also the knobs turned really scratchy and I wasn't sure if that was something I could fix or not. Is the affinity line tele better than the bullet line? I've heard people say the affinity teles are better than the affinity strats quality wise but I got no clue if that's true or not. Would just look for the standard line but for teles at least the vast majority I find in stores are either bullets or much more expensive fenders.
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Mar 15, 2020 03:01
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The Affinity line is pretty good! And I don't mean "good for the price". Like legit Fender's been realizing what Gibson has been dropping the ball on that if you get a deece 2-to-3-hundred bucks guitar and the fucker is solid, that's how you get someone hooked to them buying more down the road. My girlfriend updated from her butterscotch blonde Affinity Tele she got like 2 years ago to a Squier Jim Root Tele just at the beginning of this year (when we also started going out) after she realized that the few lessons I gave her sank in and she started loving playing guitar. She's been even considering getting locking tuners because she fell in love with the Jim Root tele even more. This is not even remotely an isolated thing. Another friend went on a slightly different tangent in that he started playing with a... modern? contemporary? whatever, he splurged a little bit more the first time and got himself a double humbucker tele for like 350. Last year he updated to the Jazzmaster that has active pickups and a tune-o-matic bridge. Again, no-loving-brainer. Chinese/Indonesian Squiers and LTD's have been legit for about 3 to 5 years now.
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Mar 15, 2020 03:20
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What's the difference between playing a bass through a guitar amp and using an octave pedal (or playing an 8 or 9 string) through the same amp? Why is one more dangerous than the other?
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Mar 15, 2020 03:31
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I got my THR10II today and this is all I ever needed for my use case, turns out I never needed a Champion 40 and a Rumble 75 and now I'm gonna get rid of them. Well I might keep the rumble, if the THR on bass mode can't keep up on a jam with others, still need to test that.
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Mar 15, 2020 03:38
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Spanish Manlove posted:I want a boss katana but for bass. Basically a cheap rear end amp with a bunch of ampeg models and effects https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MicroCubeBsRX--roland-micro-cube-bass-rx-bass-amp
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Mar 15, 2020 03:40
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Lester Shy posted:What's the difference between playing a bass through a guitar amp and using an octave pedal (or playing an 8 or 9 string) through the same amp? Why is one more dangerous than the other? As far as 8-strings...  I have an Ormsby HypeGTR 8 and an Ibanez RG8 (not pictured) and they both sound fine through guitar amps, even if I have to dial the Bass off the EQ almost completely so it can proper Djent. Playing Stoner/Doom/Sludge with 8-string guitars and some real bass on EQ has been surprisingly fun, though!
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Mar 15, 2020 03:47
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Wowporn posted:I've heard people say the affinity teles are better than the affinity strats quality wise but I got no clue if that's true or not.
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Mar 15, 2020 03:53
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Wark Say posted:The Affinity line is pretty good! And I don't mean "good for the price". Like legit Fender's been realizing what Gibson has been dropping the ball on that if you get a deece 2-to-3-hundred bucks guitar and the fucker is solid, that's how you get someone hooked to them buying more down the road. It's not just Fender, Ibanez and Yamaha figured this out years ago, they were eating Fender's lunch too before Fender wised up. I'd still pick up a G&L Tribute ASAT that's on par with a Fender MIM Player in specs at the lower price even at my awful Aussie exchange rate (which is about to get much worse).
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Mar 15, 2020 06:35
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Picked up a new guitar yesterday. Someone was selling a Seagull S6 Folk w/ hard case for $300 and I snagged it for $275. If the serial number data I found is accurate, it was built last August and is like new. I have a 25yr old full-size S6 that has a fairly large hole in the back from an accident I had 15 years ago so I'm happy to get one in better shape. That said, I was pretty surprised at how high the action is. The neck is straight so I guess I may be looking at taking it in for a set up to get the bridge and nut adjusted. Is it typical for acoustics from reputable makers to ship with high action?
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Mar 15, 2020 06:41
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That's good to hear. I think the least frills tele will work for me cause I specifically want something with single coils, hard tail bridge and no lock in tuners. I found a really nice one for cheap on reverb that's actually at a shop in my city so I'm gonna run over there in the 2 hours they're open on Sunday and hope they still have it. Anime Reference posted:I have no idea either but it seems logical that a cheapo hardtail would be easier to live with than a cheapo trem. Yeah I guess that makes sense, I didn't realize until I started looking for a hardtail how many guitars have trems that seem unnecessary. I'm wondering if there's anything about the string through body that'll cause unexpected problems but it seems like mostly benefits ewe2 posted:It's not just Fender, Ibanez and Yamaha figured this out years ago, they were eating Fender's lunch too before Fender wised up. I'd still pick up a G&L Tribute ASAT that's on par with a Fender MIM Player in specs at the lower price even at my awful Aussie exchange rate (which is about to get much worse). I looked at some G&L tributes for a minute just cause Marissa from Screaming Females played one on fishcenter
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Mar 15, 2020 08:32
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Wowporn posted:I'm wondering if there's anything about the string through body that'll cause unexpected problems but it seems like mostly benefits
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Mar 15, 2020 09:52
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The Muppets On PCP posted:somehow that got mangled into people thinking a bass through a guitar amp will somehow mess things up. the guitar amp isn't somehow magically putting out more signal than it's designed for if you plug a bass into it Don't djent through your grandpa's vintage tweed amp.
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Mar 15, 2020 10:42
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Siivola posted:Don't djent through your grandpa's vintage tweed amp. if it's plugged into a cab that can handle the actual output, it'll be fine it might not sound great, but it won't hurt anything
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Mar 15, 2020 11:49
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ewe2 posted:It's not just Fender, Ibanez and Yamaha figured this out years ago, they were eating Fender's lunch too before Fender wised up. I'd still pick up a G&L Tribute ASAT that's on par with a Fender MIM Player in specs at the lower price even at my awful Aussie exchange rate (which is about to get much worse). Siivola posted:An overdriving power amp puts out more power than its nominal wattage rating, because amp power is calculated from a clean signal. Any sufficiently hot signal will do that, obviously, but basses were hotter than guitars for the longest time and amps didn't have enough headroom to keep the power section clean. 
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Electronics wise, how are the various Squiers? I also want a hardtail SS tele, and I'm basically looking at either an Affinity, a CV or a MIM Fender. And the CV, which would be my choice, only comes in colours I don't love... But if the Affinity has decent playability and non-terrible pickups, I might go for one of those.
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Mar 15, 2020 13:26
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Spent most of last night learning how to change classical guitar strings. Frustrating + rewarding.
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Mar 15, 2020 13:37
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ewe2 posted:It's not just Fender, Ibanez and Yamaha figured this out years ago, they were eating Fender's lunch too before Fender wised up. I'd still pick up a G&L Tribute ASAT that's on par with a Fender MIM Player in specs at the lower price even at my awful Aussie exchange rate (which is about to get much worse). So you’re all telling me that if I want an official Orange Tele, my best bet is a Squier affinity rather than a MIM? I knew Squier became a Very Good Brand like a decade and a half ago but I didn’t know the Affinity line was that good. Figured you needed to spend $250 minimum and go for vintage modified or something.
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Mar 15, 2020 13:49
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BonHair posted:Electronics wise, how are the various Squiers? I also want a hardtail SS tele, and I'm basically looking at either an Affinity, a CV or a MIM Fender. And the CV, which would be my choice, only comes in colours I don't love... I had an Affinity for a couple of weeks and sent it back in favor of a CV. The Affinities have the same string spacing as the standard Teles but the nut and neck are narrower. Something about it didn't feel right to my hands. You might not notice or might even prefer it, but it's a notable point of comparison.
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Mar 15, 2020 13:50
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The Muppets On PCP posted:if it's plugged into a cab that can handle the actual output, it'll be fine
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Ok Comboomer posted:So you’re all telling me that if I want an official Orange Tele, my best bet is a Squier affinity rather than a MIM? I knew Squier became a Very Good Brand like a decade and a half ago but I didn’t know the Affinity line was that good. Figured you needed to spend $250 minimum and go for vintage modified or something. As a funny addendum, my bandmate in the post-rock/post-metal band three piece I play in did recently purchase a MIJ Mustang and she said it's the best loving guitar she's ever had, though, even compared to all the expensive custom guitars she has (an Aristides 070, a PRS Custom 24 and a Mayones 8-string that she sorta regrets getting because she has small hands). Even funnier than that is that, the main 2 guitars she uses for our live shows are an LTD Eclipse with an Evertune bridge and the Fall Out Boy singer's Gretsch; and she got both for, like, under 1500. She's probably changing that soon, because the Mustang seems like it was made for people like her.
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I was kind of confused by the idea of a guitar being too big until I started trying hollowbodies and discovered that yes, guitars can be too big. Bizarrely, when I tried a Mustang it felt fine but when I tried a Duo-Sonic it felt too small. Don't they have the same body?
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Mar 15, 2020 14:44
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I like how the earliest amps had a bunch of inputs not because they were thinking of people running complex signal chains but because everyone in the band was supposed to plug into the same amp.
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Mar 15, 2020 14:50
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Anime Reference posted:I was kind of confused by the idea of a guitar being too big until I started trying hollowbodies and discovered that yes, guitars can be too big.
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Mar 15, 2020 14:56
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Ok Comboomer posted:So you’re all telling me that if I want an official Orange Tele, my best bet is a Squier affinity rather than a MIM? I knew Squier became a Very Good Brand like a decade and a half ago but I didn’t know the Affinity line was that good. Figured you needed to spend $250 minimum and go for vintage modified or something. It all comes down to the QC now. And I also think the real common denominators are Cort and Samick. Gibson/Epiphone are off doing their own thing but Cort/Samick make most of the guitars for everyone and the best way to get good QC is to support their factory process for your brand. Leaving it up to dealers/retail is bad business, it's not their job and they can least afford to send anything back, they're there to sell the stuff not fix it. Companies that jump on the factory QC bandwagon have had that investment repaid many times, it's practically the reason why G&L and Epiphone survived the CITES block (I shudder to think how many guitars/basses were lost). After that, it comes down to what you want in the guitar, but at least at the base level you get something that is far better made than anything I've seen since the 1980's when I got started.
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Wark Say posted:Also, the frets. Like my bandmate is tiny and she has small hands. Don't know the deal about the Duo-Sonics, though. Is that one of the offsets Fender started making in 2018-2019, right?
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Anime Reference posted:I was kind of confused by the idea of a guitar being too big until I started trying hollowbodies and discovered that yes, guitars can be too big. From what I remember, the Mustang is an offset and the Duo-Sonic isn't. Looking at pictures I can spot the difference, subtle but it's different.
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Anime Reference posted:It was a recent reissue, I can't remember if it was a Squier or a Fender. It wasn't on the same trip so it's possible I just wasn't feeling tiny guitars that day. Recent reissue of the Duo-Sonic are Fender MIMs. I got one online from Adorama Camera for $319, but the current asking price is somehow 500-600? Now they're listed as part of the "Player" line, but that wasn't on the listing I bought from last year. Mustang has slightly more of a "offset" curve to the body but seems totally the same otherwise. I would not pay anywhere near what they are asking for one of these. The back of the neck on mine is satin, but the fretboard is somehow glossy? Speaking of questionably-priced Fenders, Chicago Music Exchange has some MIM Jazzmasters for sale with proper JM pickups and the vintage bridge. The $799 seems way too high for two of the colors, but they're letting the Ice Blue ones go for $649 at this exact moment. That amount of premium might be explainable for better pickups and Alder body over the Squier CV or J Mascis. edit: a link might be appreciated: https://www.chicagomusicexchange.co...lusive/24012435
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Baron von Eevl posted:I like how the earliest amps had a bunch of inputs not because they were thinking of people running complex signal chains but because everyone in the band was supposed to plug into the same amp. I like how everyone used like 15W amps until the 60s with all the screaming fans, and then we got a loudness war on our hands
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creamcorn posted:no, acoustic basses loving suck. they're not loud enough acoustically to hear in a band context, and they're not particularly fun to play solo imo (the timbre just isn't great). i concur. i would strongly advise against buying an acoustic bass guitar unless you are camping with your bandmates every weekend https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPHXNhcseJs creamcorn posted:if you want something in the lower registers for what you're doing, just play the low strings of an electric guitar. or the aforementioned u-bass with rubber strings, those things are awesome! i have to disagree.. speaking as someone who has to listen to it sometimes, i don't like the uke bass at all theres a band around here that uses the uke bass, and they're always feeding back non stop at EVERY show. they seem nice, and their songs are good, but they are on my naughty list because of this. the volume of each string is way out of balance too, the thickest string is much louder than the others. i dont think that ubass player notices or cares? but you might be able to run it thru a compressor to sort that out that band needs an upright bass player, or they need to just bite the bullet and play a normal electric bass guitar when playing with amplification
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Helianthus Annuus posted:i concur. i would strongly advise against buying an acoustic bass guitar unless you are camping with your bandmates every weekend This is exactly my experience with my friend's uke bass... the strings all seem like they get picked up at different intensities, so I'll be plucking one string and it's clear as day but the other string I'm nearly assaulting sounds soft and muddy in the mix. I don't know if he just has a lovely pickup or what, he got new strings and it helped the situation somewhat but not a lot. And yeah, feedback.
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i've never played a u-bass with electronics, i'm just judging them as acoustic instruments tbh. if the volume of the string varies, just adjust your attack- i can see this being a bigger problem for pick players than for exclusively finger players like myself. they might not shine when run through amplification, but they actually project enough volume with the rubber strings to be usable when played with an acoustic guitar unamplified. the steel strings are pretty awful though.
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My steel strings have always sort of drowned out his u-bass when were jamming, but since I got the classical we sound so nice a acoustically
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creamcorn posted:i've never played a u-bass with electronics, i'm just judging them as acoustic instruments tbh. if the volume of the string varies, just adjust your attack- i can see this being a bigger problem for pick players than for exclusively finger players like myself. i guess i would buy a ubass if i found myself in the right situation to use one, but its pretty far down the shopping list for me. i can't see why someone would buy a u bass before getting a proper electric bass guitar. but if i was going on a lot of camping trips, i might get one Brawnfire posted:My steel strings have always sort of drowned out his u-bass when were jamming, but since I got the classical we sound so nice a acoustically thats cool that it works well with the classical. i haven't really heard that combo before
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I'll have to record a bit of our next jam, it's very (for want of a better term) "dwangy"
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Wark Say posted:For real. Like they're up there with the MIK Squiers from the late 90's-00's. The MIK guitars they make nowadays are probably better than most of the Japanese guitars made in the 80's-90's. The Affinity tele looks super nice, but I'm not sure I'm sold on the top-loader bridge. Isn't string-thru body a tele tone signature? Pickups sounded a tad muddier than the MIM in comparison videos, but nothing some basic effects wouldn't paint over. The new(ish) Fender Offsets are definitely great for smaller players--the squiers beat them in pretty much every way. The Squier Mustang is an actual mustang in terms of features, characteristics, etc. It has the floating bridge and switches. The Fender nails the dimensions and I imagine it's a good bulletproof guitar to slot into the space between 'nice squier' and 'MIM Fender' that used to not exist when the MIM stuff was $200 cheaper. But it's barebones as poo poo by comparison. IMO the only good fender offset is the one I personally own--the Mustang bass. That thing kicks so much rear end and I love it. If your bandmate needs a bass, the Mustang bass rules and it's short scale, with a narrow neck. Sweetwater-exclusive Seafoam Green is Best Color.
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The Post-Rock band needs no bass player, as of right now. Since my friend takes care of all the mid/high-range with her guitars, I take care of the low end.
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Wark Say posted:The Post-Rock band needs no bass player, as of right now. Since my friend takes care of all the mid/high-range with her guitars, I take care of the low end. https://youtu.be/5xillqqt0Y0
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Ok Comboomer posted:The Affinity tele looks super nice, but I'm not sure I'm sold on the top-loader bridge. Isn't string-thru body a tele tone signature? Pickups sounded a tad muddier than the MIM in comparison videos, but nothing some basic effects wouldn't paint over. Top loader bridges are a personal preference thing. Personally, I dont think it makes that much of a difference in tone, if at all. They're also not that uncommon, as Fender installed top-loaders on Teles on and off from '58 through the 90's as well as on any with a factory bigsby. Try out both if you can, but I'd honestly say you're preference for one or the other will depend on how much you want a traditional tele.
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Ok Comboomer posted:The Affinity tele looks super nice, but I'm not sure I'm sold on the top-loader bridge. Isn't string-thru body a tele tone signature? Pickups sounded a tad muddier than the MIM in comparison videos that has more (read: almost everything) to do with differences in pickups between the two models
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