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punishedkissinger
Sep 20, 2017

what is recommended for yellow paint? my vallejo model color may have gone bad, very runny and washy

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Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

punishedkissinger posted:

what is recommended for yellow paint? my vallejo model color may have gone bad, very runny and washy

most yellows are pretty bad and I do my best to mostly airbrush it when I have to but for brush painting I've had good success with Averland Sunset and then another yellow on top of that. I've done one experiment with a yellow contrast over that which I liked on a banner but haven't had an opportunity to try further.

Key is good prep work and try basing in a light color rather than straight over black etc.

Squiggle
Sep 29, 2002

I don't think she likes the special sauce, Rick.


My current position on yellow is "convince myself I don't want to paint anything yellow."

I wanted to see what I could do by blending colors in the Vallejo game paint set, so I did a color test for a purple made out of the basic red and blue. It also doesn't come with a bronze-ish metallic, so I tried mixing some orange into the gold for the canister.



Not bad! I'm not being very precise with the drybrushing, but the effect looks smoother in person. This was a fun learning experience, I may use the rest of the marines in this box as color experiments.
EDIT: Oh, and I'm pretty happy with the Army Painter wash set so far too - the purple helped deepen the color on this, I'm glad I had more than black and brown.

Squiggle fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Aug 9, 2021

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

Oh no!😱

punishedkissinger posted:

what is recommended for yellow paint? my vallejo model color may have gone bad, very runny and washy

If something needs to be yellow-ish, like yellow with orange shading in the recesses, I just use the GW contrast paint (Iyanden yellow I think? Something like that) over white. If I want to paint something properly yellow and maybe shade it with a colour that isnt orange, well... You know the vallejo model colour yellow you had? Was it "flat yellow"? Because if so I dont have an alternate recommendation, Vallejo Model Colour: Flat Yellow has been my go-to for a while now, its the closest I've seen to actual coverage with a yellow paint. Army painters demonic yellow is absolute dogshit (and I say that as someone who doesnt hate army painter paints in general), C'oat D'Arms yellows are all various shades of thin failure. Cant speak to the current GW yellows because other than the contrast one I havent tried them.

MasterBuilder
Sep 30, 2008
Oven Wrangler
Bit the bullet and glued the 2 pieces together of my Kyria model but it's still got some work to finish it up. Still debating whether to magnetize the head because I don't love the bald look. The E on this side looks good just don't ask to see the other side

DLC Inc
Jun 1, 2011

Got tired of GW not making Primaris-scale Grey Knights so I figured, gently caress this, going to convert some marines. Very happy with how this first one came out!





The chad Primaris knight v. the virgin squatknight

Mistaken For Bacon
Apr 26, 2003

Cross-post from the 40k thread:



Got a new squad of tankbustas, ready for varnish once the oils cure. This is my second batch mixing oils for highlights and I'm sold on the process. Haven't tried any fancy blends on-model but the ease of covering and removing spots is fantastic.

Speaking of varnish, I used some krylon on my last batch, and they look frosted as all hell. Is fixing the issue as easy as reapplying a varnish coat with a better product? I have some AK ultra matte.

Bucnasti
Aug 14, 2012

I'll Fetch My Sarcasm Robes

punishedkissinger posted:

what is recommended for yellow paint? my vallejo model color may have gone bad, very runny and washy

Like others have said, start by basecoating something yellow-ish, like light sandy brown, and then build up your yellows on top of that. Never do yellow directly over black primer.


Squiggle posted:

My current position on yellow is "convince myself I don't want to paint anything yellow."

I wanted to see what I could do by blending colors in the Vallejo game paint set, so I did a color test for a purple made out of the basic red and blue. It also doesn't come with a bronze-ish metallic, so I tried mixing some orange into the gold for the canister.



Not bad! I'm not being very precise with the drybrushing, but the effect looks smoother in person. This was a fun learning experience, I may use the rest of the marines in this box as color experiments.
EDIT: Oh, and I'm pretty happy with the Army Painter wash set so far too - the purple helped deepen the color on this, I'm glad I had more than black and brown.

Thats a nice looking purple, especially considering you mixed it. Purple is a hard color to mix, because blue and red pigments don't always play well together and tend to turn an ugly brown-gray color.


Mistaken For Bacon posted:

Cross-post from the 40k thread:



Got a new squad of tankbustas, ready for varnish once the oils cure. This is my second batch mixing oils for highlights and I'm sold on the process. Haven't tried any fancy blends on-model but the ease of covering and removing spots is fantastic.

Speaking of varnish, I used some krylon on my last batch, and they look frosted as all hell. Is fixing the issue as easy as reapplying a varnish coat with a better product? I have some AK ultra matte.

Try a heavy gloss coat and then follow it with a new matte coat. The gloss will basically fill in the rough surface of the bad varnish giving you a new smooth surface to apply the matte to.

LazyAngel
Mar 17, 2009

punishedkissinger posted:

what is recommended for yellow paint? my vallejo model color may have gone bad, very runny and washy

Nuclear solution, but Kimera. The regular Yellow is pretty opaque, especially when mixed with a bit of opaque white paint, and the Yellow Oxide will pretty much cover over black in a couple of coats, and can form a really good base layer for another yellow.

Furism
Feb 21, 2006

Live long and headbang

punishedkissinger posted:

what is recommended for yellow paint? my vallejo model color may have gone bad, very runny and washy

Yellow ink over white or pink is yellow easy mode and I'll never look back.

If you want to stick to paint, the best process I found was - Averland Sunset base, then Sun Yellow, Casandora Yellow if you need a shade, and then Moon Yellow for highlights. But honestly the ink way is better, especially over a zenithal.

lilljonas
May 6, 2007

We got crabs? We got crabs!
I tend to go to some of my Vallejo sandy browns for a first layer if I'm doing yellow. As others have said, pure yellow directly on most primers is haram.

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




What is everyone's favorite super glue brand and applicator? I have a Hobbytown USA generic bottle but it flows out way too easily and makes a mess. I preferred the kind with a brush before and will likely go to that again unless there's something even better.

jesus WEP
Oct 17, 2004


Admiral Joeslop posted:

What is everyone's favorite super glue brand and applicator? I have a Hobbytown USA generic bottle but it flows out way too easily and makes a mess. I preferred the kind with a brush before and will likely go to that again unless there's something even better.
for plastic cement it’s hard to beat tamiya extra thin

Furism
Feb 21, 2006

Live long and headbang

jesus WEP posted:

for plastic cement it’s hard to beat tamiya extra thin

Same here, although sometimes it dries so fast you have no other option but to apply it after you assembled the pieces (that's how it's supposed to work actually). I use this probably 90% of the time, but for the remaining 10% or when I need to cover a larger area, I use regular scale modeling glue (the ones with a tiny needle at the top). For super glue (which isn't always better than plastic cement) I like Loctite's Super Glue "Control" (it's more of a gel) and their "Power Flex" thing where you squeeze the bottle.

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




jesus WEP posted:

for plastic cement it’s hard to beat tamiya extra thin

Does this work on resin? I have some Dragon's Lake Miniatures and my friend says they're resin, he knows more than I do about this stuff. I do have a bottle of cement already, with a brush applicator. It seems to dry really fast, almost before I can put the brush back in the liquid and attach the pieces.

Furism posted:

Same here, although sometimes it dries so fast you have no other option but to apply it after you assembled the pieces (that's how it's supposed to work actually). I use this probably 90% of the time, but for the remaining 10% or when I need to cover a larger area, I use regular scale modeling glue (the ones with a tiny needle at the top). For super glue (which isn't always better than plastic cement) I like Loctite's Super Glue "Control" (it's more of a gel) and their "Power Flex" thing where you squeeze the bottle.



Cool, I snagged some of these. Gel sounds much better, my big hands are still bad at gluing small miniatures.

Thanks goons.

MasterBuilder
Sep 30, 2008
Oven Wrangler

Admiral Joeslop posted:

Does this work on resin?

No, plastic cement works by softening/breaking down the plastic to the point where 2 pieces of plastic can fuse into one. Resin doesn't have an equivalent (to my knowledge)and you need to use crazy glue or another cyanoacrylate glue.

FYI crazy glue can cause a white frosting as it dries due to its vapours and moisture. You can clean it up with a little isopropyl alcohol or let it dry in a "dry" place (or blow on it)

jesus WEP
Oct 17, 2004


yeah for super gluing resin together i just use whatever super glue is in the corner shop, loctite seems to dry in the tube less often than gorilla glue in my experience

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat
UV Resin can also work for fusing resin pieces together, it works especially well if the parts are clear; it can just be a pain because sometimes you need a third hand to hold the light.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
I like zap a gap for superglue even though the bottle isn't perfect. It adheres very well but also never seen it frost etc plus it's a bit thick which I like.

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




I've been working with miniatures off and on for 17 years, you'd think I'd remember all this between stints in the plastic mines.

punishedkissinger
Sep 20, 2017

Admiral Joeslop posted:

I've been working with miniatures off and on for 17 years, you'd think I'd remember all this between stints in the plastic mines.

memory loss just means the plastic glue is working

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

Oh no!😱

Admiral Joeslop posted:

Cool, I snagged some of these. Gel sounds much better, my big hands are still bad at gluing small miniatures.

Thanks goons.

Gel superglue is the best, it stay where you put it, you have enough working time to squeeze some out onto some scrap car or something then use a pin or a toothpick to apply it where you need (for awkward areas). Its great. But for those bottles specifically just be aware that when the power flex bottle stops dispensing glue, that doesnt necessarily mean there is no glue left. Its just (deliberately?) poo poo at getting the last of the glue out. I tend to go for tubes myself (dont particularly care about brand, whatever gel superglue is cheap. Its usually Ultraloc or Gorilla in my local pound shop I think).

S.W.O.R.D. Agent
Apr 30, 2012

I think I'd subscribe to this though process from EonsOfBattle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJTqCfy8qRw&t=281s

jesus WEP
Oct 17, 2004


if the glue isn’t coming out of the tube, please don’t just keep squeezing harder like this shithead did. the cleanup is a nightmare.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
I almost got a paperclip stuck inside the nozzle of my super glue at work :)

Tbh it's sometimes better to just say "gently caress it" and buy a new thing of something cheap like super glue or a specific paint pot instead of putting in a ton of effort to salvage it. Unless it's no longer made, like specific old citadel paints. But there's a lot of analogs so, well, still not worth the effort to me.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS

Verisimilidude posted:

Do yourself a favor and get some Liquitex Acrylic Gouache white. It's like $9 and you get a ton of it, and it works exactly the same as all other acrylic paints. It's also insanely matte.

I followed this advice. Would buy again!



First Ork done. Totally screwed up the basing but I salvaged it a little bit so lesson learned. Didn't want to overspray white onto the skin and the acrylic gouache handled the white just fine. Also played around a little bit with oils and they really are super easy to get nice blends out of. Brush management and clean up is annoying though.

BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat
Isn't UV resin highly toxic?

Ignite Memories
Feb 27, 2005

BULBASAUR posted:

Isn't UV resin highly toxic?

Most resins are, yeah, it's kinda their thing

BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat
then wouldn't it be best to use super glue or pin something instead of using UV resin?

Squiggle
Sep 29, 2002

I don't think she likes the special sauce, Rick.


Yeah, I both figuratively and very literally wouldn't touch UV resin.

lilljonas
May 6, 2007

We got crabs? We got crabs!
E: oops don't listen to me, UV resin seems much worse than polyurethane resin.

MasterBuilder
Sep 30, 2008
Oven Wrangler
I'm going to preface this with read your MSDS for the resin you are using, wear gloves, safety glasses and don't huff uncured resin but most resins aren't that bad compared to household cleaners. The big thing that gives it Health 2 warning is if you ingest it and if you need to learn about not eating unknown things. Again treat resin (and all chemicals) with a healthy amount of respect, cover exposed skin and most importantly protect your eyes. Because nothing sucks worse that trying to fumble your way to the bathroom when you are in pain and can't see.

TheDiceMustRoll
Jul 23, 2018

TheDiceMustRoll fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Aug 9, 2021

DevCore
Jul 16, 2003

Schooled by Satan


I want to get started and practice but I don't want do jump into it with sets that are pricey.
Are there cheap/bulk miniature sets that I can try different techniques on?

Ultimately I'd like do do cartoonish/vibrant miniatures for Blood Bowl.


I've got a good deal on a decent airbrush off amazon a few years ago but it's never been used. I'm thinking a can of white/black rustoleum + glazing would be an easier starting point than buying a compressor, hoses and setting up a ventilation or filtration system.

TheDiceMustRoll
Jul 23, 2018

DevCore posted:

I want to get started and practice but I don't want do jump into it with sets that are pricey.
Are there cheap/bulk miniature sets that I can try different techniques on?

Ultimately I'd like do do cartoonish/vibrant miniatures for Blood Bowl.


I've got a good deal on a decent airbrush off amazon a few years ago but it's never been used. I'm thinking a can of white/black rustoleum + glazing would be an easier starting point than buying a compressor, hoses and setting up a ventilation or filtration system.

Airbrushing is "I really like this poo poo, time to go balls deep and spend mucho dollars on it." level of commitment.

Cheap minis can usually be purchased from resellers, or you can just grab dollar store toys, strip the paint off and then go buck wild.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat

I'm in this picture and I don't like it.

TheDiceMustRoll
Jul 23, 2018

PoptartsNinja posted:

I'm in this picture and I don't like it.

That's a good half of the replies, too.

lilljonas
May 6, 2007

We got crabs? We got crabs!

MasterBuilder posted:

I'm going to preface this with read your MSDS for the resin you are using, wear gloves, safety glasses and don't huff uncured resin but most resins aren't that bad compared to household cleaners. The big thing that gives it Health 2 warning is if you ingest it and if you need to learn about not eating unknown things. Again treat resin (and all chemicals) with a healthy amount of respect, cover exposed skin and most importantly protect your eyes. Because nothing sucks worse that trying to fumble your way to the bathroom when you are in pain and can't see.

Yeah polyurethane resin is what I have experience with. In liquid form it tends to give your hands rashes when you work with it a lot, even when wearing gloves. That's pretty much it. The really no-no part is sanding the cured product without a mask and inhaling that dust, which is very bad in the long run.

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




DevCore posted:

I want to get started and practice but I don't want do jump into it with sets that are pricey.
Are there cheap/bulk miniature sets that I can try different techniques on?

Ultimately I'd like do do cartoonish/vibrant miniatures for Blood Bowl.

Reaper has a lot of decent and cheap minis. Be careful of their Bones line; they're lower quality but even cheaper and require some extra prep work.

Can also check eBay for Lots of whatever models. Good chance to learn how to strip minis too.

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GreenBuckanneer
Sep 15, 2007

I was following along with the painting suggestion for space wolves

I primed them all corax white, cause, that's what I have

it tells me base them in the fang, so, I do

it then says to use nuln oil, and then layer with fenrisian grey

Except, the models all over are fenrisian grey with no The Fang to be seen.

So shouldn't the instructions/suggestions be to prime in The Fang and then Fenrisian Grey and then Nuln Oil?

Now it looks like crap and at this point even thin layers are too many layers of paint, arghhh

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