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https://twitter.com/BuddyJB3/status/1512620699223044100?s=20&t=q5dZloCMTKEFNWqeA1OcxQ I swear I see this loving complaint constantly and I don't even think the people saying it even understand what the gently caress it means
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DLC Inc posted:https://twitter.com/BuddyJB3/status/1512620699223044100?s=20&t=q5dZloCMTKEFNWqeA1OcxQ a good story is when want to fight your opponent because they tried to poison you or they created a new compound that made your balls and butt really hot and hurt
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DLC Inc posted:https://twitter.com/BuddyJB3/status/1512620699223044100?s=20&t=q5dZloCMTKEFNWqeA1OcxQ It's another weirdly common thing I see on the internet is people HATE wrestling matches that aren't part of a storyline. Like somehow watching Samoa Goddamn Joe vs Minoru loving Suzki is a complete waste of time because they haven't been coming out and getting each other DQ'd or Rolled Up every week for the past 9 months
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Apr 9, 2022 17:10
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People don't know what a story is. The story of the match is that there are two terrifying tough guys who could probably murder you without breaking a sweat are going to fight. It's a good story, as I want to see it and will tune in to do so. What this guy is complaining about is that there hasn't been four weeks of filler where they traded passive-aggressive insults at each other before the fight and then when it gets to the actual match they end it on a gently caress finish, so they can do it all again next month.
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Apr 9, 2022 17:30
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It's the same impulse as people saying every episode of a show that doesn't directly advance the main plot is filler. There just isn't much respect for spending time on just character-building these days.
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Apr 9, 2022 17:36
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It's not a storyline unless you spend half a year wrestling each other every single week in a never-ending series of 3 minute matches that end in gently caress finishes and a few random "can they coexist!?!?!?" tag matches thrown in for good measure
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Apr 9, 2022 17:39
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Also Joe's feuding with Jay Lethal and they already made it clear Lethal and Dutt are gonna do something to him next week, probably during or after that match!
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DLC Inc posted:https://twitter.com/BuddyJB3/status/1512620699223044100?s=20&t=q5dZloCMTKEFNWqeA1OcxQ Holy poo poo, we're getting Suzuki vs. Samoa Joe? I'm sure they will have a great match featuring a sequence of strikes, throws, holds, incidental things that forms an ebb and flow constructing a narrative that builds towards a climax. A story, you could say.
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IGgy IGsen posted:Holy poo poo, we're getting Suzuki vs. Samoa Joe? I'm sure they will have a great match featuring a sequence of strikes, throws, holds, incidental things that forms an ebb and flow constructing a narrative that builds towards a climax. A story, you could say. Thats not a story, thats the boring stuff i fast forward through to get to the story faster
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Apr 9, 2022 18:10
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i watch godzilla movies for the stories on the ground
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Apr 9, 2022 18:21
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This wrestling doesn’t have the three letters I like therefore it is trash
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DLC Inc posted:https://twitter.com/BuddyJB3/status/1512620699223044100?s=20&t=q5dZloCMTKEFNWqeA1OcxQ they don't
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also entirely ignoring that having a match can be the start of a story, not just the end of it.
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Apr 9, 2022 18:43
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They’re too dumb/Vincepilled to realize you can tell a story in the ring without atrocious 15 minute promos and constant video recaps
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Apr 9, 2022 19:05
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To be fair nobody watches wrestling for wrestling, they just want to pay a couple hundred dollars to sit in an arena and watch people who aren't trained actors stand in a boxing ring and do a bad soap opera for 3 hours where every now and then there's a 2 to 3 minute break where people do wrestling
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Drakkel posted:To be fair nobody watches wrestling for wrestling, they just want to pay a couple hundred dollars to sit in an arena and watch people who aren't trained actors stand in a boxing ring and do a bad soap opera for 3 hours where every now and then there's a 2 to 3 minute break where people do wrestling You joke, but this is literally what draws wwe's audience. Some people want this
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Apr 9, 2022 19:58
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shut em down, athletic commission!
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Cult of Pies posted:shut em down, athletic commission! "yes hello athletic commission? you won't believe this but a wrestler is bleeding."
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Remember when the WrestleMania sign hanging over a section of fans at the Royal Rumble caught fire? Twice?
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I remember worse things than a burning Wrestlemania sign WWE did or neglected to do that resulted in severe physical harm or death.
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IGgy IGsen posted:I remember worse things than a burning Wrestlemania sign WWE did or neglected to do that resulted in severe physical harm or death. wwe is about moments
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:"yes hello athletic commission? you won't believe this but a wrestler is bleeding." Athletic Commissioner: "Oh yeah, we'll get right on that, just as soon as we get the official word that pro wrestling isn't predetermined any more.  "
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Cult of Pies posted:shut em down, athletic commission! the dude apologized for overreacting and said it is the wrestlers' choice to do it and a lot safer than he realized, and noted that the ref had gloves
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MotU posted:the dude apologized for overreacting and said it is the wrestlers' choice to do it and a lot safer than he realized, and noted that the ref had gloves AEW being able to bring back "working the marks" has been the best part of wrestling for the last few years
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Gumball Gumption posted:AEW being able to bring back "working the marks" has been the best part of wrestling for the last few years It's still real to them
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It's only good if you bleed hardware by repeated elbows to the head by Brock Lesnar. That's totally safe.
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Or if you are Brock Lesnar, you just headbutt the post a bunch.
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Blading like that on TV does bring up an interesting point with Standards & Practices though. It's pretty much the only form of mainstream entertainment that shows real gore created through violence (albeit choreographed), but fake gore using special effects is often censored. I guess cable can do whatever it wants, especially in a later timeslot, but I wonder if the internal view on real blood differs for networks & content warnings from how they perceive something like a bloody horror movie where everything is fake.
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sticklefifer posted:Blading like that on TV does bring up an interesting point with Standards & Practices though. It's pretty much the only form of mainstream entertainment that shows real gore created through violence (albeit choreographed), but fake gore using special effects is often censored. I guess cable can do whatever it wants, especially in a later timeslot, but I wonder if the internal view on real blood differs for networks & content warnings from how they perceive something like a bloody horror movie where everything is fake. Context probably has a lot to do with it. A guy bleeding during a "sanctioned" athletic contest is an entirely different scenario compared to Michael Myers about to make someone bleed. Like, I don't think they heavily censor the fights in the Rocky/Creed movies.
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Cable TV is also in a much different place than the 90's/00's in terms of content
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Here's a short film about Standards and Practices on Time Warner networks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G5EwTz-oS0
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Davros1 posted:Context probably has a lot to do with it. A guy bleeding during a "sanctioned" athletic contest is an entirely different scenario compared to Michael Myers about to make someone bleed. It's one of the weird low-key ways that WWE's press release about that women's street fight match in AEW was so lovely because the way they worded it made it sound like AEW just filmed someone assaulting a bunch of women rather than it being a part of the show
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I think a few states like Maryland still actually have an athletic commission involved when it comes to pro wrestling. I remember AEW getting fined when there was some blood in a Baltimore show
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Pretty sure you can't bleed in New York still which made a lot of people confused when the recent GCW Hammerstein show was much tamer than they were expecting
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Duke Pukem posted:I think a few states like Maryland still actually have an athletic commission involved when it comes to pro wrestling. I remember AEW getting fined when there was some blood in a Baltimore show the Kenny/Mox lights out match was in Baltimore and former WCW announcer Chris Cruiser started a snitch campaign and went on a bunch of unhinged tirades in the months following https://411mania.com/wrestling/former-wcw-announcer-chris-cruise-on-why-aew-wont-succeed-jim-herds-mistakes-in-wcw-wwes-business-being-down/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidbixenspan/2019/11/30/yes-the-aew-full-gear-main-event-is-being-investigated-in-maryland/?sh=d8c1c2a6b15d https://bleedingcool.com/tv/former-wcw-announcer-gloats-as-aew-fined-10000-for-bloody-match/
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For years in Washington it was financially prohibitive to do a Pro Wrestling show not named WWE because it was defined as, naturally, sports entertainment, which full under the department of licensing's purview. They would require stuff like a license for every wrestler, paramedics, an ambulance on stand by, and a percentage of the show + a per ticket fee. Thankfully in 2017 our governor signed the "lucha bill" to remove this classification.
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Tweak posted:For years in Washington it was financially prohibitive to do a Pro Wrestling show not named WWE because it was defined as, naturally, sports entertainment, which full under the department of licensing's purview. They would require stuff like a license for every wrestler, paramedics, an ambulance on stand by, and a percentage of the show + a per ticket fee. Thankfully in 2017 our governor signed the "lucha bill" to remove this classification. 
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