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Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

PainterofCrap posted:

I see it around here (New Jersey): hacks installing siding, and they nail the nails in too far/tight, and pin the siding to the sheathing. There has to be enough room between the nail head and the sheathing to let the siding ride back & forth as it expands & contracts; otherwise, it starts wrinkling.

When I put the siding on I used screws with pan heads. They go in faster, easier to place accurately, can back them out if they're too tight, and you don't bash your fingers putting them in.

The two end walls are overlapped away from the road to hide seams, and the rear wall is overlapped away from the prevailing wind to lessen the likelihood of it being damaged.

The dormers won't have any seams as they're short runs. I wanted to do them in vinyl shake siding, but the colour my wife picked (midnight blue) is only available in horizontal dutch (pictured above).

P.s. zip saws are awesome for cutting siding and soffit.

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Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках

CRUSTY MINGE posted:

Oh yeah, well aware of the fire suppression stuff, but I've never seen it set off because I worked in mostly competent kitchens.

There's a reason there are companies that go around cleaning and certifying commercial hood vents. If the health department didn't enforce some sort of outside service to clean and inspect them yearly, I don't doubt that every kitchen I've worked in would have burned to the ground.

I just don't think a rich rear end in a top hat cooking a handful of meals a month is going to do much in terms of accumulating grease in the condensate traps, especially without a fryer running 16 hours a day. It's definitely dumb as hell to have in a residential kitchen, and I agree that it's unnecessary, but rich idiots gonna rich idiot.

I would not mind watching that kitchen burn to the ground though.

We used whatever we had in the kitchen. Often it was just knockoff Dawn and a variety of toilet brushes.

I don't miss working in kitchens.

Yet all the same I'm probably going to put a commercial style hood with makeup air in my next house because I'd rather clean filters than have a light layer of grease on everything because I like to stir fry.

Whatever dumbfuck decided that open plan kitchens and recirculating vents everywhere was the Way needs to be thrown off a dock.

cakesmith handyman posted:

I can't imagine the construction of those steps that just won't fold down flat when a fat person steps on the unsupported end.

Just imagine trying to get someone down them on a stretcher.

Liquid Communism fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Oct 14, 2021

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



PainterofCrap posted:

I hate vinyl siding. But drat, that color looks fabulous, and whoever installed it didn't pin any of it down. It looks great.

And you're weather-covered in time for winter! A hell of a lot of progress. Nice work, Blistex!

Why can't they build good-looking houses around here any more? Instead of ticky-tacky mcmansion crap?

I was hesitant to install vinyl siding a couple years ago, but the HardiePlank quote came back almost 4x as much as the premium vinyl. I ended up going with near the exact color Blistex has and it looks fantastic in real life. The white trim really makes it pop. It was more expensive than I was expecting (they did rewrap and put a layer of foam board down), but when I figured in the cost of having the exterior painted over the expected lifetime of the vinyl, it was a bargain.

I also had the same company install a 8 foot sliding patio door at the same time and couldn't be happier with the whole thing.

PremiumSupport
Aug 17, 2015
Yeah, not a big fan of vinyl either, but we had to go that route on my house this past year as well. The original 1978 wood was rotting away and woodpeckers were poking all sorts of holes in it, so a new paint wasn't an option. Pretty much anything better than vinyl was beyond our budget. Still took almost 8 months from ordering the job to product installation due to supply line issues.

Happy with the final result though. It looks good and it does the job.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


wesleywillis posted:

OMG A FORKLIFT!!! ARE YOU FORKLIFT CERTIFIED??

Obligatory:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAHzP4umE4M

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
I think a lot of the vinyl siding hate is due to the colours 90% of the houses are decked out in, and the way they're framed, trimmed, and installed. Having lived in Calgary for almost three years I came to hate most vinyl sided houses I saw because they would be head to toe in some drab/bland colour and all of the corners would be the exact same colour with windows decked out in the smallest (cheapest) frames. It was like looking at giant tan/grey blocks with absolutely no character to them. Another problem is that most people see typical McMansion homes with cookie cutter designs and that doesn't help. When my brother and his wife built a place in Tuscany in Calgary, they were only allowed to choose between 30 different colours (across 4 different brands), which were all the most washed out/bland variations on tan/taupe/grey/blue. In reality they had about 5-7 actual colour options when you removed brand overlap.

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."
Vinyl siding will be fun when your neighbors buys some low e windows.
My main hate of vinyl siding is when I see it on older housing, it always looks fake as hell. Honestly, I wish they'd stop putting that fake wood grain texture, it isn't fooling anyone.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

nm posted:

Vinyl siding will be fun when your neighbors buys some low e windows.
My main hate of vinyl siding is when I see it on older housing, it always looks fake as hell. Honestly, I wish they'd stop putting that fake wood grain texture, it isn't fooling anyone.

It's also to hide any scratches or imperfections which would be obvious if it was smooth, matte or even slightly textured.

Someone suggested painted wood siding for my house and I just imagined trying to repaint, or having to pay someone to. Not good.

Anyway, I'm happy with it.

B-Nasty
May 25, 2005

Vinyl siding has definitely gone through some improvements in the last few years. They offer sturdier versions or even integrated foam insulation-backed.

It doesn't look as nice as other options, but vinyl is worth it for the no-hassle factor. Basically zero maintenance for 30+ years, and can be repaired easily if damaged. Hit it with some bleach and soap every once and a while and it'll look brand new. Painting your house (siding) is outrageously expensive.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

I always wondered why stucco is more popular in the southwest. Does wood/vinyl siding not do as well?

It’s always a pain in the rear end trying to attach anything to the side of the house. If you wanna run a cable outside or mount a flag you gotta bust out the masonry bits and tap on screws.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

FCKGW posted:

I always wondered why stucco is more popular in the southwest. Does wood/vinyl siding not do as well?

It’s always a pain in the rear end trying to attach anything to the side of the house. If you wanna run a cable outside or mount a flag you gotta bust out the masonry bits and tap on screws.

Stucco is very very popular in the northeast for cheap rear end big box development houses because it's cheap as poo poo comparted to anything other than T1-11.

I think that's the thing you need to understand about stucco: it's cheap.

HelloIAmYourHeart
Dec 29, 2008
Fallen Rib
It's not cheap if your house is 100 years old and covered in textured stucco and a big chunk falls off the front and you have to pay a specialist to match the texture.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Well yeah, but everything is stucco around here, it doesn’t matter the price. Even custom builds that aren’t a master planned community or whatever are going to be stucco, unless it’s somewhere in the mountains I guess.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

HelloIAmYourHeart posted:

It's not cheap if your house is 100 years old and covered in textured stucco and a big chunk falls off the front and you have to pay a specialist to match the texture.

100 year old houses aren't the same stucco at all that I think we're talking about here.

Also, even a modern house with lovely cheap to install stucco is going to be expensive to match. It's not cheap to own, it's cheap for the lovely developer to install on their lowest bidder builder grade shitboxes they are selling. Which will never make it anywhere close to 100 years before having to be torn down.

titaniumone
Jun 10, 2001

I hate vinyl siding because of how poorly it blocks sound transfer from the outdoors. the brick areas of my house are much quieter than the vinyl areas.

and the creaking sounds the vinyl makes when the hot sun hits it on a cold day are obnoxious.

D34THROW
Jan 29, 2012

RETAIL RETAIL LISTEN TO ME BITCH ABOUT RETAIL
:rant:
Fantastic idea (he said sarcastically). However, i bet a whole house whipping around in 22 seconds is a hell of a thrill ride.

the yeti
Mar 29, 2008

memento disco



titty_baby_ posted:



Not the best photo (I was stopped in traffic) but this building has always intrigued me due to its lack of visible windows. It seems like it could be a house and it sits between a house and a dilapidated business on highway 101. If you're actually on highway 101 you can see a bit of the side of the building and still no windows. The owner did fly a huge trump banner for a while though, and had multiple signs up saying "you're on camera"

Looks like a lovely dominionist church building

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this

D34THROW posted:

Fantastic idea (he said sarcastically). However, i bet a whole house whipping around in 22 seconds is a hell of a thrill ride.

FISHMANPET
Mar 3, 2007

Sweet 'N Sour
Can't
Melt
Steel Beams
My 1909 house has vinyl siding (we bought it like this). Having grown up in the suburbs I had an aversion to vinyl siding as well, but I actually like it on this house. One of the things I realized that makes Vinyl siding look crappy is the overlap on long blank runs on new houses. My old house, with it being small and windows and doors all over the place, doesn't actually have many long runs where a 12 foot piece isn't long enough, so there are very few of those overlaps, and so it looks a lot better than what I'd expect Vinyl to look like. Plus no maintenance because I'm lazy AF. Maybe in 20 years we'll do something different, but I'm quite happy with it for now.

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
You guys are making me want to put vinyl siding in my lap board house. Just encase it like a lovely faberge egg.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
I have a ton of overlapping pieces but no one will ever know unless they go into my backyard since they overlap away from the road.

Even cheaper options can look good if you plan ahead of it, install it properly, and try and balance it with other siding and finishes.

Saint Freak
Apr 16, 2007

Regretting is an insult to oneself
Buglord
https://i.imgur.com/R4X8T4I.mp4

SkyeAuroline
Nov 12, 2020


I wish I had a mirror here so I could have watched my own expression fade into depressed resignation.

gently caress that.

8one6
May 20, 2012

When in doubt, err on the side of Awesome!


Why would you paint that?

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

8one6 posted:

Why would you paint that?

To make it look “more modern.”

poo poo there’s someone in the small questions thread right now asking how to unfuck a painted brick fireplace.

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
Jesus!

$5 says they carpet or paint the treads and landing.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Cyrano4747 posted:

To make it look “more modern.”

poo poo there’s someone in the small questions thread right now asking how to unfuck a painted brick fireplace.

I'm the utter and total lack of dropcloths, masking, and in general protection of all other surfaces.

value-brand cereal
May 2, 2008

Saint Freak posted:

[url]https://i.imgur.com/R4X8T4I.mp4[/]



That's supposed to say crytype but you can pretend I am in my crypt, typing burning missives about the sanctity of wood.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


8one6 posted:

Why would you paint that?

And, if you’re going to paint it, do literally no prep to make sure the paint sticks, so it will lift immediately after a few hands fun along a thing meant to have hands on it.

Blistex posted:

Jesus!

$5 says they carpet or paint the treads and landing.

No bet. It’s a given.

Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004



I just noticed on like the 10th viewing the stair tread that has also been painted grey. I'm gonna choose to believe this is a troll video just to maintain sanity.

Poisonlizard
Apr 1, 2007

Cyrano4747 posted:

To make it look “more modern.”

poo poo there’s someone in the small questions thread right now asking how to unfuck a painted brick fireplace.

Absolutely this, I'm currently helping my sister strip a painted fireplace. As we started digging in, discovered it's actually bricks made of 2 different colors of granite. Absolutely gorgeous, and some idiot just slapped avocado green paint over it (plus 30 years of other colors in layers).

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

I'm very sorry but I'm not gonna not use it if I've spent all that time puzzling out how I possibly still could.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

My Lovely Horse posted:

I'm very sorry but I'm not gonna not use it if I've spent all that time puzzling out how I possibly still could.

It takes you that long to think up "piss in the hole?"

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
What's so hard about pissing in a hole in the wall?

LonsomeSon
Nov 22, 2009

A fishperson in an intimidating hat!

*hanging upside-down dangling from the ceiling Mission Impossible-style, absolutely flabbergasted by a hole in the wall*

One Nut Wonder
Mar 17, 2009

Blue Moonlight
Apr 28, 2005
Bitter and Sarcastic

LonsomeSon posted:

*hanging upside-down dangling from the ceiling Mission Impossible-style, absolutely flabbergasted by a hole in the wall*

Lutha Mahtin
Oct 10, 2010

Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!

new cabin just dropped

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/10-Mercury-Dr-Joshua-Tree-CA-92252/2070196265_zpid/

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CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Pretty sure I built that in Fallout 4.

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