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PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe



Captain Log posted:

Car Insurance Question -

The saga of fixing my '13 Hyundai's rear end continues.

Does talking to your insurance about "Something happened, but I'm unsure if I want to claim it" mean they are going to open a claim regardless?

Don't call them unless you want to claim it. The only folks who can tell you what it will cost to fix there are the adjusters, and by the time you're speaking to them, you have already filed a claim.

Get a shop estimate and then you'll know. You can always report it later.

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wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!
04 Tundra with 4.7l v8.

Does it have a third cat? Just wondering.

My work has that truck, its been sitting for a while and I went to start it up today. It was loud.
Looked underneath and a piece was freshly cut out of the exhaust system.

Did these jerk offs steal a third cat, or a resonator?

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Leperflesh posted:

Thanks guys, I put that sensor back in and it was too cold out to finish up (I gotta lie under the car to tighten a couple of bolts that hold the next segment of exhaust pipe in place) but I'll let y'all know if it doesn't pass smog.

Good. Don't change multiple things at once. If something goes wrong/isn't fixed/you end up with new symptoms you're just making everything more complicated.

Hed
Mar 31, 2004

Fun Shoe

opengl posted:

It's an obnoxious add on that dealers like to overcharge for, while some car owners take it into their own hands to make it irritating.

Thanks. It didn't occur to me that dealers would try to install a flashing stop lamp!

Good lord, why do people want that? To be more like a motorcyclist?

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

Hed posted:

I've noticed being behind a lot more cars lately where the CHMSL blinks or "flashes" when the brakes are engaged. Is this some new behavior someone decided to start? On one hand I don't think all of these Toyotas and Mazdas especially have electrical problems, but on the other I can see having observational bias now that I'm looking for it.

Is this supposed to be safer? My initial take was that if adopted by all manufacturers this would eventually be like driving in heavy rain and ~everyone turns on their flashers~, thereby making the road extremely distracting for everyone.

I'm not sure which brake lights flash on my car, but my BMW will flash them a few times when I brake "hard" (not sure what that entails, I'm not looking at the back of my car when I'm inside of it, especially when I'm braking in an emergency). They're supposed to be regular solid lights when I'm braking normally. It's a stock feature.

Cage
Jul 17, 2003
www.revivethedrive.org
My dad wanted me to help him install them for the 3rd brake light on his 09 grand marquis so that people would "see him easier when he brakes" and then proceeded to be the person to accidentally hit someone.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.
The ambulances around me have their emergency lights flash when they brake. That's awesome. Just stop and go traffic, nothing, FLASH, nothing, FLASH. I feel like I will eventually get used to it and ignore when they are flashing in an emergency.

cursedshitbox
May 20, 2012

Your rear-end wont survive my hammering.



Fun Shoe
I don't think a flashing high mount center stop lamp is gonna do fuckall when drivers are so far up their facebook they fail to see trains and fire engines.

Captain Log
Oct 2, 2006

Now I am become Borb,
the Destroyer of Seeb

PainterofCrap posted:

Don't call them unless you want to claim it. The only folks who can tell you what it will cost to fix there are the adjusters, and by the time you're speaking to them, you have already filed a claim.

Get a shop estimate and then you'll know. You can always report it later.

Thanks for clarifying that. I'm just a little dumbfounded at multiple old, established shops saying they don't want to work with Geico.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Captain Log posted:

Thanks for clarifying that. I'm just a little dumbfounded at multiple old, established shops saying they don't want to work with Geico.

Shops who aren't in the insurance repair business (i.e. with established relationships) do not want to do insurance jobs. They have garbage sitting on their lot waiting for adjusters to come by and, if you're not paying them directly, are now floating cash for your repair until a check shows up.

All shops, even the bad ones, are so busy they are turning work away. So exactly what incentive do they have to do this type of work for you when they could be doing work for cash customers who can approve their own repairs/estimates immediately and pay cash immediately when the work has been completed?

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

Captain Log posted:

Thanks for clarifying that. I'm just a little dumbfounded at multiple old, established shops saying they don't want to work with Geico.

GEICO sucks to deal with from the shop side and as a shop if you're not on GEICO's direct repair program gently caress taking GEICO work.

Captain Log
Oct 2, 2006

Now I am become Borb,
the Destroyer of Seeb
Makes sense when put like that.

Despite driving for drat near twenty-five years, I’ve never been in a wreck or had a car get damaged by another driver. This is a new process for me.

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.
I took my 2019 Ford focus on for its 4 year service earlier this month.

Today I lowered the driver window for the first time and when I hit the switch to roll it back up, it goes all the way to the top then rolls back down to about half way.

Then the full roll or whatever doesn't work but I can move it up and down in increments.

I managed to get it closed enough to be secure but if I nudge it up too much it triggers the half way roll down again.

It feels like a safety feature that's accidentally triggering, but it's never done this before.

Is it potentially something that could have been caused by the service?

Fornax Disaster
Apr 11, 2005

If you need me I'll be in Holodeck Four.
Power windows may require a relearn procedure after the battery is disconnected, if you have the owner’s manual it should be in there.

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

Hed posted:

I've noticed being behind a lot more cars lately where the CHMSL blinks or "flashes" when the brakes are engaged. Is this some new behavior someone decided to start? On one hand I don't think all of these Toyotas and Mazdas especially have electrical problems, but on the other I can see having observational bias now that I'm looking for it.

Is this supposed to be safer? My initial take was that if adopted by all manufacturers this would eventually be like driving in heavy rain and ~everyone turns on their flashers~, thereby making the road extremely distracting for everyone.

Ford dealer here charge $399 for installing a lovely $3 module to do this and they do it to every car on the lot. I managed to avoid it since mine was a special order and I told them not to put it on there.

I think that poo poo is distracting and I doubt it’s any safer.

RIP Paul Walker
Feb 26, 2004

It’s also a violation of DOT lighting rules. I hate them.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
Not sure which thread to ask this in so I'll do it here - my 2019 Rav4 hybrid is a total loss due to mouse damage (everyone I've spoken to as part of this process has individually said they get a lot of Rav4's with this problem). I really liked the car otherwise but I can't get another if it's just going to happen again (don't have the ability to use a garage, live in the woods with lots of wildlife and don't want to end up poisoning a bunch of owls.) What are some other similar options I can look at? My second choice back then was the Crosstrek hybrid but the Rav4 was just better overall. It turns out I basically only drive about 30 minutes a week on average so I'm not sure fuel economy/EV actually matters as much for me as just being able to sit outside all year and still work. The only things I really need are 4wd/awd for winter snow, and a large trunk.

Wrar
Sep 9, 2002


Soiled Meat
Mazda CX-5?

Sab669
Sep 24, 2009

Why does TireRack have a bunch of multiple instances of the same tire, but with various car models in the name?



They also have multiple Pilot Super Sports, on says "HN Hyundai" and one is "Star BMW" :shrug:

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Probably exploiting some obscure search engine optimization

There are a bunch of price/product aggregators out there might be trying to capture the GR market by having a page explicitly for that car

AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

of a full load.



Sab669 posted:

Why does TireRack have a bunch of multiple instances of the same tire, but with various car models in the name?



They also have multiple Pilot Super Sports, on says "HN Hyundai" and one is "Star BMW" :shrug:

Just guessing, but it might be the stock tire from the factory.

Sab669
Sep 24, 2009

Yea, that'd make sense. Thanks google 🙄

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

In a previous life I had to export our entire retail catalog into various formats and upload them to various price aggregators. I feel like one of them was "nextprice" and their lists were used to generate stuff for Google shopping

When selling partial commodities like tires where most of your customers are shopping by price comparison it's important to flex any competitive advantage to get listed first or second to capture as many sales as possible

Other than renting a warehouse and filling it with tires there's not much "economic moat" stopping someone from directly competing with tire rack so how you optimize the site/data is really your only leg up in a lot of cases. Wouldn't surprise me if they have like an entire data analytics team (of like 4-5 people) ordering duplicate pages like that to be built due to reading the modern equivalent of tea leaves

That's my guess anyways. I'm sure the partial commodities online retail has changed a lot in the last decade+

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





This isn't some form of SEO or bullshit like that; automakers can and sometimes do have specific SKUs of a tire made for a model, which vary in some way from the regular production.

Michelin's own site oddly doesn't list a non-Toyota SKU for that size:



But on another size they list a regular and a Ford SKU, and the Ford-labeled tire is nearly two pounds lighter with slightly less tread depth:

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Interesting. Does Ford have them make the tire 2lbs lighter to meet some kind of EPA mileage requirement. Presumably shaving 8lbs off your rotational mass would improve your city MPG by some measurable amount

honda whisperer
Mar 29, 2009

Hadlock posted:

Interesting. Does Ford have them make the tire 2lbs lighter to meet some kind of EPA mileage requirement. Presumably shaving 8lbs off your rotational mass would improve your city MPG by some measurable amount

Ford did have a very effective tire for reducing emissions by rolling explorers but it was discontinued.

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

honda whisperer posted:

Ford did have a very effective tire for reducing emissions by rolling explorers but it was discontinued.

I don't know if that really works if the entire Explorer becomes an emission.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost

Wrar posted:

Mazda CX-5?

Hm, I had checked those out before but the CX-50 looks like it might be good.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Sab669 posted:

Why does TireRack have a bunch of multiple instances of the same tire, but with various car models in the name?



They also have multiple Pilot Super Sports, on says "HN Hyundai" and one is "Star BMW" :shrug:

I'm noticing in this screenshot that they have combined the reviews and ratings, but that the price and amount in stock are different. I think this strongly implies the tires are not 100% identical.

sarcastx
Feb 26, 2005



I'm curious to know why it seems like only Costco has Pilot Sport 5s in reasonable stock in the US

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Leperflesh posted:

I'm noticing in this screenshot that they have combined the reviews and ratings, but that the price and amount in stock are different. I think this strongly implies the tires are not 100% identical.

TireRack reviews of a given tire are lumped across all sizes of that tire. Manufacturer-specific variants are just treated as another size.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost

Wrar posted:

Mazda CX-5?


zoom zoom

Mister Speaker
May 8, 2007

WE WILL CONTROL
ALL THAT YOU SEE
AND HEAR
Nobody bit in the A/T Stupid Questions Thread, I figure I can get a better answer here: I'm curious about torque distribution systems in AWD vehicles. Namely, what I was wondering out loud in A/T, was whether AWD cars have a third differential connecting the front and rear axles as well as one on each axle, and if so how does the drivetrain tend to look in terms of what's connected in what order? I imagine it gets a lot more complicated than this in modern AWD vehicles.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





The answer is "it depends"; there are many different ways of managing each of the three torque splits and each one results in different behavior. Some are purely mechanical and work by 'sensing wheel slip' in the form of taking action when the difference in speeds between the output shafts is too large. Some are purely electronic and rely on the PCM monitoring individual wheel speeds and engaging a clutch pack when too much slip is detected.

Any form of AWD/4WD that can operate in that mode on dry pavement has at least some form of allowing slip between the front and rear wheels, whether that's in the form of a differential, clutch pack, viscous coupling, or something else entirely. Locking front/rear solidly together would cause massive drivetrain binding and eventually damage if driven on roads at speed.

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!
My understanding is that 4wd= transfer case and one could compare it to having a locker in a drive axle. With transfer case, front and rear are locked together and don't try to turn corners with it. You might gently caress something up.

Awd= centre differential/coupling mechanism and it might be more comparable to having an LSD in your drive axle, but (sometimes) can be locked when necessary.

If this isn't correct, I expect someone is already typing up a reply calling me a stupid jerkoff for being so stupid and I haven't even hit the post button yet

Wonderllama
Mar 15, 2003

anyone wanna andreyfuck?

wesleywillis posted:

My understanding is that 4wd= transfer case and one could compare it to having a locker in a drive axle. With transfer case, front and rear are locked together and don't try to turn corners with it. You might gently caress something up.

Awd= centre differential/coupling mechanism and it might be more comparable to having an LSD in your drive axle, but (sometimes) can be locked when necessary.

If this isn't correct, I expect someone is already typing up a reply calling me a stupid jerkoff for being so stupid and I haven't even hit the post button yet

I dunno, I’ve seen several 4x4s with open front and rear differentials.

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!

Wonderllama posted:

I dunno, I’ve seen several 4x4s with open front and rear differentials.

Yeah I'm more comparing transfer case to a locker while a centre diff is more like an LSD.

E: in terms of sending/ distributing power front and rear.

Mister Speaker
May 8, 2007

WE WILL CONTROL
ALL THAT YOU SEE
AND HEAR
By 'locker' are you referring to a differential that can be manually locked shut? My understanding of the technology begins and ends with what an elegant device a traditional diff actually is, but I know (as has been mentioned) that there is sometimes a lot more going on with springs and clutches in more-advanced diffs.

Thanks for shedding light on this curiosity!

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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Just like "truck" and pornography, in the words of Potter Stewart, I don't have a definition for 4x4 vs AWD but I know it when I see it.

USUALLY 4wd will have a low range in the tcase and at least one setting that locks the center diff. But not always.
USUALLY AWD has an open or limited slip center diff and no low range. But not always.

There are always counterexamples.

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wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!

Mister Speaker posted:

By 'locker' are you referring to a differential that can be manually locked shut? My understanding of the technology begins and ends with what an elegant device a traditional diff actually is, but I know (as has been mentioned) that there is sometimes a lot more going on with springs and clutches in more-advanced diffs.

Thanks for shedding light on this curiosity!
Yes but:
I'm possibly too loaded to explain what I'm trying to say properly.

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