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Ceros_X posted:Coolermaster and Xigmatek both have relatively cheap ($25ish) 4in3 units. You need a screwdriver with a magnetic head to install drives in the Xigmatek one, (I own one) but that shouldn't be too much of a problem in the long term. You can always just stroke the end of a screwdriver over a magnet to magnetize it. e: quoted for the new page.
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VerySolidSnake posted:Crashplan seems way to good to be true. Would I seriously be able to store an "unlimited" amount (10TB+) for $3 / month? It's taken me a good while to get a lot of it uploaded but I'm at about 3TB total stored on there so far.
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VerySolidSnake posted:Crashplan seems way to good to be true. Would I seriously be able to store an "unlimited" amount (10TB+) for $3 / month? Crashplan's business plan relies on people wanting to pay for drives to perform an initial backup or retrieve their data. They charge $125 each way. As long as you don't have a data cap on your internet connection it really is THAT good.
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Any recommendations for a single-bay USB enclosure? Going to throw an old 1.5TB drive into it and hook it up at my parents' place to the WRT610Nv2 I've set up (and use its NAS functionality) to add some cheap storage for their set-top media player.
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movax posted:Any recommendations for a single-bay USB enclosure? Going to throw an old 1.5TB drive into it and hook it up at my parents' place to the WRT610Nv2 I've set up (and use its NAS functionality) to add some cheap storage for their set-top media player. Sure, this one is cheap, and has a nice big fan.
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what is this posted:Sure, this one is cheap, and has a nice big fan. gently caress, that thing is huge. Should do the trick nicely I think. Now time to see if there are any horrible bugs with DD-WRT and offering up USB drives as shares.
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MachinTrucChose posted:Assuming I am hit by the RAID5 write hole, I understand there will be data loss, but what is the extent of this data loss? Just the file that was being written/pending writes, or all my data? Google has no answer, everyone seems to just parrot "data loss!" over and over. Just the data that's being written, but you can't really trust Explorer. If there's enough memory for caching, you may still be hosed on file transfers. SMB doesn't guarantee atomic writes (or writes at all -- it trusts the fileserver), so Windows may think it's complete if, say, you finish transferring within a second of the server going down, but you have uncommitted writes. Get a RAID controller with a battery-backed cache and forget about it.
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movax posted:gently caress, that thing is huge. Should do the trick nicely I think. Now time to see if there are any horrible bugs with DD-WRT and offering up USB drives as shares. Unless you like killing your drives, huge with good airflow is the way to go. It also has an easily replaceable external power supply. This is good because the power supply is the most likely component to fail, and the heat (and swings in temp) from the power supply is bad for the drive. Keeping it external is better.
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what is this posted:Unless you like killing your drives, huge with good airflow is the way to go. It also has an easily replaceable external power supply. This is good because the power supply is the most likely component to fail, and the heat (and swings in temp) from the power supply is bad for the drive. Keeping it external is better. Yeah, definitely. The passive ones are all nice and pretty but the drive would cook itself in there. I ordered two of them already, should be here for the weekend hopefully.
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ok i give up, after reading this thread until my eyes were stone dry i just need advice in plain simple english. It is really doing my head in. Current setup I have an old e4300 box with windows 7 pro 64bit 1gb ram. The OS hdd is 80gb, and also have 1tb, 400gb, 250gb. I also have a usb 1gb mybook, a 500gb external usb hdd. I want a centralised server because my files are spread over all hdd's with no structure. Aim: I want to convert this as a server and also use my external hdd's to maximise redudancy. I would also like to have automatic sync/backup to the external hdd's for offsite storage. Requirements - I want the server to act as a backup tool for my laptop's important files (music, photos, documents). I also want it for storing unimportant media that can be streamed easily to my laptop. - Redundancy is key, only for important folders from my laptop. I want the server to automatically mirror changes made from my laptop (renaming, editing, deleting/adding files). - The server should have the flexibility to synchronize important folders across some or all the server's hard-drives. How would i deal with the issue of a folder's size increasing bigger than a clone hdd's capacity? I also need to deal with a impending issue of my laptop photos folder outgrowing my laptop sdd capacity. What will i do? If i delete files from my laptop's sdd those changes will reflect on the server. How do i overcome these issue? - I want to address the issue of having separate media folders because they will not fit in one hard drive. So i want the server to organise these separate folder destinations into virtual holistic categories. So tv, movies, videos would fit under a virtual hdd called "MEDIA" - I want the ability to restore my Work PC which has Quickbooks, incase of OS failure. So quickbooks data will be backedup and the software/settings/licence/updates is restored to how it was before corruption. It seem whs2011 would have been the best solution if it wasn't for the lacking drive extender. I will only work with windows and do not want to buy new equipment since i already have a plethora of hard drives and PC equipment to recycle. How do i get organised?
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So it looks like our 32 bit Backup Exec 2010 setup won't backup Exchange 2010 on x64, so time to replace our aging Dell backup server with something new. The problem is, the Dell offerings i'm looking at are only SATAII, and their hard drive prices are RIDICULOUS. I figure if I'm going for brand new I might as well go for the newest. Should I be looking elsewhere like HP or IBM? Basically I'm looking for something that's a tower formfactor, will hold 6-8 drives and has SATA3 and decent hard drive prices. I don't need tape because we do d2d2d and the third "d" is offsite in our DR facility. Drive trays/easy hard drive access would be nice, no hot swap needed. I'll go through Dell if I have to, but I'm just not well versed on what else is out there.
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Post in the enterprise SAN thread. This thread is mostly for consumer/soho solutions. That said, if you need something very small, and have a nice 802.3ad/LACP gigabit switch, you could have a windows server + synology device over iSCSI. This will be as fast as anything local if you aggregate your gigabit ports, because the backup is going over the network anyways. If you want a tower form factor, you could get a DS3611xs or DS2411+. They will be very cheap compared to anything Dell offers, and you can fill them with any drives you like. They all hot swap, though of course that will trigger a rebuild/etc. And it's not enterprise grade hardware. But you can use it for SMB/CIFS, NFS, and iSCSI. If you buy a NAS like that, and a bunch of 2TB drives, you'll get a ton of storage for what is, in the enterprise market, pennies. Then all you need is a windows server to be the iSCSI initiator and run your backup software. This could be a cheap tower with an expensive network card running Windows Server 2008R2. You'll pay almost nothing for this whole setup, and it will work. However, there will be no 24/7 support contract, so you'll be on your own if you need to fix something. They have a warranty, and so on, but nothing like Dell's enterprise support. what is this fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Sep 7, 2011 |
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Could the thread be re-titled as the Consumer NAS/Storage Megathread?
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Packrats implies consumer... but that might make good sense.
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drat, sorry about the mispost, thanks for the info!
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what is this posted:My recommendation is to just buy a Synology storage unit and bind it to active directory. For small office stuff the 1010+ is a great unit (last years model) I use it through iSCSI as a backup destination for backup exec on (Mounted as a drive on windows) server, and run a low usage ESX VM off it. I also have all the standard installers stored on in.
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Anyone know if when NAS boxes quote "Wake on Lan" they actually mean "wake from off" or they're actually just hibernating at 10W power consumption or similar? I like the idea of scheduled on/off times like the Synology boxes have or some kind of remote shutdown command, but I'd be keener on being able to power up without having to physically reach over and push a button. Note: This is primarily because every so often I get paranoid about theft/fire and harbour a dream of hding the NAS in a cupboard and connecting through wireless so it's out of sight, however in a cupboard = not going to be able to turn on/off easily. Edit: Though actually now that I think about it my PC case is an Antec p182 that weighs a loving tonne so there's not much chance of anyone stealing that either
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:Anyone know if when NAS boxes quote "Wake on Lan" they actually mean "wake from off" or they're actually just hibernating at 10W power consumption or similar?
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:Anyone know if when NAS boxes quote "Wake on Lan" they actually mean "wake from off" or they're actually just hibernating at 10W power consumption or similar? I like the idea of scheduled on/off times like the Synology boxes have or some kind of remote shutdown command, but I'd be keener on being able to power up without having to physically reach over and push a button. Hibernation should only eat up as much power as a powered down unit. Unplugging a hibernating device and plugging it in elsewhere should allow you to power up to the pre hibernation state. To "Wake on Lan" you obviously need to have the ethernet card powered and analyzing packets so if it's enabled it might consume more power ceteris paribus. If you want wireless wake on lan then it'll probably suck down even more power.
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I've been starting to get a little tempted to upgrade my Intel SS4200 NAS to one of the HP Microservers especially now that they've refreshed the line with a faster CPU. One of the main drawbacks I'm having at the moment is being limited to 2GB of RAM, going to 8GB on the HP would be nice. One of the drawbacks I could see with the HP is the slower processor, I upgraded to an Intel E2220 that runs at 2.4ghz but I'm not really sure if its needed. The NAS, besides its normal CIFS file sharing, would be doing torrents/sickbeard/newsgroup stuff. I'm not sure I'd go the full route of installing ESXi and going the VM route, but it's an interested idea for the home. For those of you running last years Microserver, do you ever feel like the little guy needs a faster CPU? Is it possible to upgrade to something a little faster? I'm not really up to speed on this AMD processor...
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I've not had any issues with performance on mine. I've not done a lot with it but it's been working great for my personal NAS. It's also been pretty snappy when playing around in solaris. I don't know for certain (haven't tried it) but I don't see any reason it couldn't handle torrents and such. One thing to note is that while it will run ESXi just fine and you can fill it up with VMs no problem you can't (at least as far as I can tell - if someone has figured out how please let me know) pass the drives directly to the VMs. So depending on your NAS software it may or may not be able to do a software RAID of your drives IF the NAS software is in a VM. Galler fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Sep 8, 2011 |
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jeeves posted:Proliant Microserver definitely can't WOL when off. Bummer - I thought I read somewhere it was possible. I guess you tried it yourself?
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heeen posted:Bummer - I thought I read somewhere it was possible. I guess you tried it yourself? On the other hand, mine uses a massive 36w when idle, and as long as you're careful about not overloading the 12v rail, I know people who have replaced the PSU in theirs with a PicoPSu lowering their idle usage to about 18w.
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Galler posted:One thing to note is that while it will run ESXi just fine and you can fill it up with VMs no problem you can't (at least as far as I can tell - if someone has figured out how please let me know) pass the drives directly to the VMs. So depending on your NAS software it may or may not be able to do a software RAID of your drives IF the NAS software is in a VM. I've read that with the Microserver's SATA controller it is possible to do RDM in VMware, although probably not supported. This would be mapping the drives and not the controller directly into the VM. I don't have one of these microservers yet, but I'll check it out for sure when I find the budget. I'm fairly sure you'd still need to have a local storage disk in order to store the VM definitions and device mappings on, so at the minimum you'd need something like this: Microserver with 4GB RAM USB thumbdrive with ESXi installed onto it One local disk imported into the VMware host as a local storage Additional disks mapped into the FreeNAS or whatever VM with RDM This guy has a pretty good guide to making the RDM portion happen. Edit: apparently when making the actual RDM, you should use vmkfstools -r instead of vmkfstools -z or you'll encounter issues with ZFS. I've been curious about this configuration as well, since it really seems that ZFS is best used when it has direct control over the underlying storage. BnT fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Sep 8, 2011 |
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Awesome, thanks! I'll have to give that a shot this weekend. e: VVV going to try just making a VM of my current solaris 11 + napp it install. Or just reinstalling and importing the zpool. Luckily I don't have much data on my NAS yet so if it all goes wrong then no big deal. Galler fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Sep 9, 2011 |
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Galler posted:Awesome, thanks! I'll have to give that a shot this weekend.
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What do you guys use for file integrity checking? Looking for an automatic way to checksum file integrity (md5 +shah) whenever i cut or copy one file to another drive or server. Teracopy seemed like a good tool but only uses CRC checking. I've been scouring around the web and surprised this checksum feature is not default with basic cut/copy functions.
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adorai posted:Keep in mind KVM was just ported to the illumos kernel so you will soon have a very nice virtualization platform with native ZFS in openindiana, or you can start right away with smartos, though i do not believe that distro has cifs support. Where'd you hear that (no CIFS support). Wasn't that in the last OpenSolaris build, so it should be in the Illumos kernel as well?
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So it looks like HP is extending the £100 cashback for UK end users on the old microservers (presumably to clear out the inventory faster). Even with shipping to the United States and VAT considered this is substantially cheaper for US customers trying to save a few yankee bucks. Would there be any UK goons willing to order some of these servers for US goons? I'm getting this weird itch to order a couple - one for an HTPC and another for a(nother) plain ol' NAS.BnT posted:I've been curious about this configuration as well, since it really seems that ZFS is best used when it has direct control over the underlying storage. I doubt that the SATA controllers on the Microserver would be on VMware's HCL for ESX(i) so perhaps that may be related to why physical compatibility mode doesn't do what you'd think for FreeBSD VM based ZFS. FISHMANPET posted:Where'd you hear that (no CIFS support).
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FISHMANPET posted:Where'd you hear that (no CIFS support). Wasn't that in the last OpenSolaris build, so it should be in the Illumos kernel as well? necrobobsledder posted:so I'm suspicious of what physical compatibility mode actually means under VMware ESXi and if it's not "good enough" direct access for ZFS.
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Has anybody ever put Playstation Media Server on a FreeNas Box? My DNS-323 bit the dust, been using a Ubuntu box with PMS on it and its been working great. There just doesn't seem to be a good way to fileshare to it with my macs/pcs. Or is there another way you get FreeNas to transcode media?
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Rodney Chops posted:Has anybody ever put Playstation Media Server on a FreeNas Box? My DNS-323 bit the dust, been using a Ubuntu box with PMS on it and its been working great. There just doesn't seem to be a good way to fileshare to it with my macs/pcs. Or is there another way you get FreeNas to transcode media? You should look up Samba and how to create native SMB/CIFS shares before you take a step as drastic as changing the OS. FreeNAS uses Samba anyway, I think, just with a web frontend.
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Rodney Chops posted:Has anybody ever put Playstation Media Server on a FreeNas Box? My DNS-323 bit the dust, been using a Ubuntu box with PMS on it and its been working great. There just doesn't seem to be a good way to fileshare to it with my macs/pcs. Or is there another way you get FreeNas to transcode media? Granted I never transcode, but when I setup my microserver with FreeNAS 7, simply turning on UPNP worked enough for my ps3 streaming needs and setting up SMB shares made it easy to fileshare between my pc's
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I want an easy to use 2 bay NAS for home usage. Is there anything I should look at other than the Synology DS211j?
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Puddin posted:Granted I never transcode, but when I setup my microserver with FreeNAS 7, simply turning on UPNP worked enough for my ps3 streaming needs and setting up SMB shares made it easy to fileshare between my pc's This sounds good to me and it should save Rodney Chops spending $30 on NASLite.
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DoktorLoken posted:I want an easy to use 2 bay NAS for home usage. Is there anything I should look at other than the Synology DS211j? Buffalo LinkStation and Netgear ReadyNAS have similar models to the DS211j.
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Jigoku San posted:Buffalo LinkStation and Netgear ReadyNAS have similar models to the DS211j. Yeah, saw those but I've had my eyes on the Synology for a while. The software on the Synology looks pretty drat nice, plus it has Time Machine support and decent enough performance for my needs. DS211J and 2 2TB Samsung EcoGreen F4s. Should keep me going for quite a while.
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Does anyone here have any experience with the WD My Book units? I'm looking at the 2TB version on Newegg, and it seems crazy cheap for what it is (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136746). Are there any glaring faults with these things? I only need something to store music and video on, but be able to access it via wireless from my (windows 7) laptop(s).
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Devian666 posted:This sounds good to me and it should save Rodney Chops spending $30 on NASLite. Yea I guess theres no reason to use naslite if freenas does the same thing. It just sucks because a pile of my music and videos are not compatible with PS3. So i'm going to have run it all through handbrake before loading it on my nas. 
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