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Total Confusion
Oct 9, 2004
Is something like DKB or Comdirect not an option? Same ATM network but no account fees.

I switched from Sparkasse about a year ago and noticed almost no difference in terms of service.

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Zwille
Aug 18, 2006

* For the Ghost Who Walks Funny
Don't those online banks require an account with a regular brick & mortar bank anyway? They might be a nice addition to whatever brick & mortar bank you pick, however, as they let you use basically any ATM that has the VISA logo for free, making the whole ATM network question moot.

Last I checked, Deutsche Bank, Postbank, Commerzbank, Berliner Bank and some others share their ATM network anyway, so you can pick any of those based on your preferences and get access to the same network.

I've never had any complaints while using Deutsche Bank. They're nice and they have OK apps. You can use ATMs abroad for free, too, depending on whether they have a partnership with the foreign bank. Works for the USA/Bank of America. There's a list on the Deutsche Bank website which lists the cooperating banks abroad. Just remember to up your withdrawal limit before you go, and of course tell them when you're going to be there as they sometimes have to unlock your account for use abroad.

Total Confusion
Oct 9, 2004

Zwille posted:

Don't those online banks require an account with a regular brick & mortar bank anyway? They might be a nice addition to whatever brick & mortar bank you pick, however, as they let you use basically any ATM that has the VISA logo for free, making the whole ATM network question moot.

Not that I'm aware of. I have comdirect as my primary account and I have no other connection to/accounts with Commerzbank. The one drawback is you can't really do a lot of cash deposits. Comdirect lets you do 3 free a year at Commerzbank ATMs, but after that it's €1,90 per einzahlung.

Maybe y'all have more use of a physical bank than I do, but after I did the math on how much I'd paid the Sparkasse over 4 years - gently caress paying a bank just to have an account and a credit card.

Zwille
Aug 18, 2006

* For the Ghost Who Walks Funny
Huh, didn't know that was an option. Neat. Do they offer unlimited free ATM withdrawals too, like other online banks?

Hollow Talk
Feb 2, 2014

Zwille posted:

Huh, didn't know that was an option. Neat. Do they offer unlimited free ATM withdrawals too, like other online banks?

Comdirect is part of that CashGroup thing, so you can get free ATM withdrawals with their EC card from Deutsche Bank, Commerzbank, Postbank, HypoVereinsbank and some more. They also offer free *international* cash withdrawal via their Visa card. The latter used to work in Germany as well, but they more recently switched that, so now you need to use the EC card. I used a comdirect account for years to get free ATM withdrawals while living abroad, and that always worked really rather well. You don't need another account with its parent company (Commerzbank).

tag youre fat
Aug 16, 2013

C'est l'homme ideal
charme au masculin
Hi thread,

I'm moving to Tubingen in October to spend a year in college there. I read about how when I pay the semester fees I get a ticket that allows you free travel within a certain range. Do any of you know what the range is? Is it just Tubingen? All of Baden-Wurttemburg? Somewhere in between?

Also, if you know Tubingen and had to sum it up in one sentence, what would it be?

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:



Swan Curry posted:

Hi thread,

I'm moving to Tubingen in October to spend a year in college there. I read about how when I pay the semester fees I get a ticket that allows you free travel within a certain range. Do any of you know what the range is? Is it just Tubingen? All of Baden-Wurttemburg? Somewhere in between?

Also, if you know Tubingen and had to sum it up in one sentence, what would it be?

Here's a page about the university's Semesterticket (in German). It's good for all transport within the operating range of the "naldo" transport system. I'm not familiar with it, but here's their train plan: https://www.naldo.de/fileadmin/media/download/Netzplaene-Regio/naldo-Regio-2016-03-01.pdf I don't know that area of B-W at all but to someone who's never been there, at first glance it looks like you're connected to a whole lotta nothin'. You're probably not that far from Stuttgart though, but it doesn't look like your ticket will cover that. Could be wrong though.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Drone posted:

I don't know that area of B-W at all but to someone who's never been there, at first glance it looks like you're connected to a whole lotta nothin'.
That's about the gist of it, but it's par for the course for BW, really.

System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

But what did he mean by that?


Swan Curry posted:

Hi thread,

I'm moving to Tubingen in October to spend a year in college there. I read about how when I pay the semester fees I get a ticket that allows you free travel within a certain range. Do any of you know what the range is? Is it just Tubingen? All of Baden-Wurttemburg? Somewhere in between?

Also, if you know Tubingen and had to sum it up in one sentence, what would it be?

Don't crawl into the giant stone vagina there, you will get stuck

Smirr
Jun 28, 2012

I spent a couple of days in Tübingen for a conference this winter and here's my one sentence summary: 50-66% of the city IS the university, the remainder are insanely congested roads.

It seemed lively enough even during the semester break (for a city of 80.000 at least). I wouldn't want to live there but a year or even a complete Studium should be doable. It's certainly much less of an irredeemable shithole than Stuttgart is, not least because the percentage of Swabians is much lower in Tübingen.

Entropist
Dec 1, 2007
I'm very stupid.

Swan Curry posted:

Also, if you know Tubingen and had to sum it up in one sentence, what would it be?
I've also been there for a few days for a conference and I know a few people who work at the university there.
It has a beautiful old town and is a real student town, but it is also a small town so it might get boring after a while. Lots of student activities though. There are supermarkets that are open until 23h which seemed like a miracle in Germany. Get a bike there, a lot of people bike and it seems like you can get around pretty easily that way. The car road to the university was indeed pretty congested.

In other places the semester tickets are valid for the entire state but I don't know how it is in Tuebingen. The state is pretty big so maybe they found a way to restrict it.

Entropist fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Jul 29, 2016

Hollow Talk
Feb 2, 2014

Entropist posted:

I've also been there for a few days for a conference and I know a few people who work at the university there.
It has a beautiful old town and is a real student town, but it is also a small town so it might get boring after a while. Lots of student activities though. There are supermarkets that are open until 23h which seemed like a miracle in Germany. Get a bike there, a lot of people bike and it seems like you can get around pretty easily that way. The car road to the university was indeed pretty congested.

In other places the semester tickets are valid for the entire state but I don't know how it is in Tuebingen. The state is pretty big so maybe they found a way to restrict it.

It seems that BaWü universities are just too cool for decent semester tickets. I remember people from Frankfurt or Mainz or Berlin/Brandenburg talking about their awesome all-state semester tickets, but the ones around Freiburg were, for example, absolute rubbish and didn't even quite reach the Swiss Border. Looks to be the same for the Tübingen one, if we go by their Wabenplan. On the other hand, they are relatively inexpensive, I think the Uni Frankfurt one is 200€+ or so.

At least it looks like you can get to Überlingen, I suppose. :confuoot:

System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

But what did he mean by that?


Hollow Talk posted:

the ones around Freiburg were, for example, absolute rubbish and didn't even quite reach the Swiss Border

Hey now, it still saved me like 3€ per trip whenever I would go home to Bavaria :colbert:

But yeah, when I had to contend myself with the Freiburg ticket and the three Landkreise it covered while my cousin in Bremen had all of Lower Saxony to herself... :suicide:

e: but compared to Augsburg it's glorious again, Augsburg doesn't even extend to my hometown that's only like 7km away from the city centre. Glad I didn't study there!

System Metternich fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Jul 29, 2016

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?

Re: Bankchat, seconding that DKB is really convenient abroad, they have a shitton of partners, so withdrawals are never an issue.

I'm a Sparkassen Kunde for in-country stuff, have a DKB Visa for withdrawals, and an Advanzia Mastercard for fee-less credit card transactions abroad. No costs whatsoever.

tag youre fat
Aug 16, 2013

C'est l'homme ideal
charme au masculin
Thanks for the responses guys, those links are a great help

System Metternich posted:

Don't crawl into the giant stone vagina there, you will get stuck



I'll take that in mind but I make no promises :colbert:

Buzkashi
Feb 4, 2003
College Slice
My girlfriend and I are going to stop in Munich for a few days in September, is there like a basic How To Oktoberfest Without A Reservation guide? We're thinking like the 18th-20th roughly.

dogboy
Jul 21, 2009

hurr
Grimey Drawer

Buzkashi posted:

My girlfriend and I are going to stop in Munich for a few days in September, is there like a basic How To Oktoberfest Without A Reservation guide? We're thinking like the 18th-20th roughly.

Well you go there and have a look at the crowds waiting infront of the tents and join the group you think would be the most fun to get drunk with. Don't be fooled by Lederhosen etc. its mostly Italians, Canadians and Australians wearing those.

You won't get a table for yourself anyways so look for spots you might be able to squeeze in, probably try "Ist hier noch frei?" or "Können wir uns dazu setzen?" but they'll probably won't be able to hear you anyways because of the music.

Get attention of the ladies carrying around the tankards, buy one and get smashed while "schunkeln" (whole bench swinging left and right to the music) and singing and socialising with the drunken masses around you.

A word of caution: Festbier is good but also a bit stronger than regular beer. Once you have 1-3l inside you you will feel the urge to take a piss and when you stand up all the alcohol might shoot to your head and your lights may go out for a second and you wake up on the floor with everyone laughing at you, so expect that to happen and take it slowly.

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS
Drone (or any other Gamescom veteran), I have a question.

I just got an e-mail saying that they're selling afternoon tickets and that entrance will be permitted on the basis of people leaving the premise.

Does this mean that if I don't get there by 14:00 I have to queue with the afternoon pass people even if I have a preordered day-pass?

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:



I always arrived in the mornings, and there was a separate line for people who have pre-ordered passes and for those who show up without one and expect to buy one.

But once those people who have bought a pass successfully do so, you will be going into the same entrance line as they do, yes. A pre-ordered day-pass is not a VIP pass.

Have fun for me! I bought tickets back in May but I'm not going to be able to head up to Cologne at all this weekend to go to the show :(

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?

FIY, they still overbook, so if there's an Einlassstopp, you're stuck in the waiting line even though you were previously admitted, unless you have an Ausstellerpass or connection inside.

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS

Duzzy Funlop posted:

FIY, they still overbook, so if there's an Einlassstopp, you're stuck in the waiting line even though you were previously admitted, unless you have an Ausstellerpass or connection inside.

Ich hätte wissen müssen, dass Kölner zu ehrlichen Geschäftsgebaren nicht im Stande sind. :ohdear:

Vodos
Jul 17, 2009

And how do we do that? We hurt a lot of people...

FYI try not to bring any backpacks or stuff like that because they're on high security and will be checking baggage and those lines are expected to get very long. Supposedly there's different lines for people without baggage since they don't get checked .

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:



Did you end up going to GamesCom, Randler (or anyone else)?

Edit: oh drat for some reason I thought it was last weekend, not this weekend. Neat. Still can't go myself though :(

Drone fucked around with this message at 11:24 on Aug 16, 2016

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS

Vodos posted:

FYI try not to bring any backpacks or stuff like that because they're on high security and will be checking baggage and those lines are expected to get very long. Supposedly there's different lines for people without baggage since they don't get checked .

I don't think people without baggage visit gaming conventions, actually. :rimshot:

djf
Nov 5, 2007
FTH
Spending New Year in Munich. What would German goons recommend doing for fun. Googling is just throwing up lots of IS bombing threats and thoroughly bumming me out. Will be there the 31st to 3rd.

Hollow Talk
Feb 2, 2014

djf posted:

Spending New Year in Munich. What would German goons recommend doing for fun. Googling is just throwing up lots of IS bombing threats and thoroughly bumming me out. Will be there the 31st to 3rd.

Well, if things explode, at least it will blend in on New Year's Eve.

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS
Gamescom tip: No bag queue is real and fast but hidden from sight by bag queue

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Hey I'm in Munich over the weekend, what's fun to do, bearing in mind that Blasmusik and any kind of Volkstümlichkeit trigger my fight or flight reflex and I don't give a poo poo about architecture? I like tech and retro stuff and basically everything my avatar implies.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

My Lovely Horse posted:

and basically everything my avatar implies
A bunch of you are probably getting ready to recommend gay bars and I'd like you to know that's very amusing.

bronin
Oct 15, 2009

use it or throw it away
Deutsches Museum

Smirr
Jun 28, 2012

bronin posted:

Deutsches Museum

Yeah. And better bring a lot of time too. The only time I went I had ~3 hours and only saw like half of the museum.

NigelsPoppet
Jul 22, 2015
Hey All, I'm flying into Frankfurt to work Lollapalooza In Berlin. I pretty much don't have to do anything but blog, so this means that literally 99.1% of my time there can be devoted to doing anything I want.

I don't speak any German however a colleague will eventually meet me so I think that should hep out for a bit. I'll be with another English Speaking friend who likes to party (as do I) and I've also been told Oktoberfest begins around this time. Can anyone recommend anything to see in Frankfurt / Berlin? Broad I know but the whole trip is very sudden so I'm scrabbling to find ways to fill my time

Also I am a very light skinned African American and have never been to Europe.... should I expect racism?

Thanks!

Smirr
Jun 28, 2012

I've never been to Frankfurt but I think the only things to do around there are being a banker and/or contracting hep C. In Berlin these are also options (the banker thing might be harder than in Frankfurt though) but you can also do whatever you want to the point I find it hard to recommend anything. Just do whatever I guess, it's kinda hard to get bored. Knock-off Oktoberfests outside of Munich are kind of iffy in general and I wouldn't go to any of the big ones in Berlin in particular. You'll still be able to get hammered though, no worries.

In terms of racism, you will almost certainly be completely fine in the inner city (that's roughly the ring line on the train map) and probably won't get bothered even in most of the suburbs. I would say that currently, when it comes to casual racists, you being American supersedes you being black. Like someone might try to make you say that the US is a degenerate country but probably no one will throw bananas at you. That said, there ARE some non-casual racists in Berlin, particularly around the very eastern and south-eastern edge of Berlin but there's no reason to go there unless you live there.

Zwille
Aug 18, 2006

* For the Ghost Who Walks Funny
Anything in particular you like to do? Might be easier to give you pointers that way. Oktoberfest isn't worth the hassle unless you got connections to get into one of them tents.

Hollow Talk
Feb 2, 2014
I, too, have never been to the place you asked about, but let me quickly tell you what a steaming pile of poo poo it is and how you will literally get sick and did I mention it's poo poo?

Things to do in Frankfurt

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:



Frankfurt's pretty boring, but you should drink some Apfelwein while you're there.

You should also remember that Oktoberfest is a predominantly southern Germany thing (Munich, sorta Stuttgart). There will probably be some small Oktoberfest events in both Berlin and Frankfurt though, but probably nothing to write home about.

You already have your transport from Frankfurt to Berlin sorted out? It's a 5 hour train ride.

ephex
Nov 4, 2007





PHWOAR CRIMINAL

My Lovely Horse posted:

Hey I'm in Munich over the weekend, what's fun to do, bearing in mind that Blasmusik and any kind of Volkstümlichkeit trigger my fight or flight reflex and I don't give a poo poo about architecture? I like tech and retro stuff and basically everything my avatar implies.

Leierkasten

Hollow Talk
Feb 2, 2014

My Lovely Horse posted:

A bunch of you are probably getting ready to recommend gay bars and I'd like you to know that's very amusing.

You'd think it would be easy to recommend a gay bar with an entire gimmick dedicated to "Blasmusik". :saddowns:

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Well I just found out I'm staying in Schillerstraße so I guess I'll get to see if someone had that refined sense of humour.

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My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010



dammit, Bavaria

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