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A sub fuffs an attack, then flees depth charges. I'm trying a quick in-and-out supply run to Akyab, and for once, their bombers seem distracted. A dull day, but at least our ships at Akyab managed to get some supplies ashore! The Chokai succumbs to her wounds, becoming the second capital ship loss of the war.
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# ? Sep 30, 2016 06:07 |
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# ? Jun 7, 2024 15:08 |
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Claiming the Heavy Cruiser Haguro
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# ? Sep 30, 2016 07:26 |
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Chokai was built in 1932 in Nagasaki. She was 15,780 tons with an armament of ten 8-inch guns and 4 5-inch guns, up to 66 antiaircraft guns, and eight deck-mounted launchers for the Long Lance torpedo. She had a long history in the Pacific War, participating in the invasions of Malaya and Indonesia, and the Indian Ocean Raid. In mid-July 1942 she was named the flagship of the Japanese Eighth Fleet for the Solomon Islands campaign and took part in a number of naval battles during the battle for Guadalcanal, including Savo Island, where Chokai participated in the sinking of four Allied heavy cruisers. Following the loss of Guadalcanal to the Americans Chokai proceeded back to Japan for minor duties before participating in the Battles of the Philippine Sea and Leyte Gulf. Chokai was sunk in the Battle off Samar, one of the finest moments of the American Navy. Engaging a force of destroyers, destroyer escorts, and escort carriers, Admiral Kurita's fleet was driven off by the ferocity of their defence. During their approach, a 5-inch shell from the escort carrier USS White Plains hit Chokai's torpedo launchers and detonated the volatile pure-oxygen-fueled torpedoes, which knocked out the ship's rudder and engines. Moments later an American airplane dropped a 500-pound bomb on her forward machinery room, crippling the ship and starting fires. She was abandoned and scuttled later in the day and her survivors transferred to the destroyer Fujinami. However, two days later the Fujinami sank with no survivors, making Chokai one of the largest ships sunk in the Pacific War with all hands lost. Interesting bit of trivia, the Chokai is one of the deepest shipwrecks in the world at approximately 8,100 metres below sea level. Chokai from the front, where you can see the distinctive Japanese superstructure style vyelkin fucked around with this message at 13:53 on Sep 30, 2016 |
# ? Sep 30, 2016 13:50 |
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Taffy-3's heroic stand is that kind of 'Had they made a movie of this no-one would believe it' battle that crops up sometimes.
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# ? Sep 30, 2016 14:01 |
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Night10194 posted:Taffy-3's heroic stand is that kind of 'Had they made a movie of this no-one would believe it' battle that crops up sometimes. There is, however, a really good book about it that the Military History thread consistently recommends: The Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors by James Hornfischer.
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# ? Sep 30, 2016 14:23 |
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A solid hit on a big ship! We can't do much about these guys! Some of my planes commit suicide. We take our daily toll here. I swear, interesting things will be happening soon – Its just freighters are really slow crossing large areas of water!
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# ? Oct 1, 2016 15:47 |
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One of our ships takes a hit. The sub comes back to finish the job. The air war continues. We smash into this force again – its just to large to leave alone! We lost another ship, but did some damage in China. An average day. We lost a ship, but we confirm the kill on the Long Island! This is the month where everything changes – in my game as the Allies, I started kicking rear end this month, but the AI is nowhere to be seen! Not many bases changed hands this month, as the cargo ships were much slower than I expected, so the Suva op is going to take longer than planned – although this means the troops will have more prep time! Base points really swung in the last game! I've stabilized my rate of plane loss this month, but I need to kill a lot more of their planes to take the lead here. My pools don't look to bad – you can never have to many dive and torpedo bombers though! Here are the top pilots. I'm still doing very well in the ground war. And I've managed to reign in my urge to sink my own ships. The naval war is going okay, overall. I wanted to catch that carrier though!
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# ? Oct 1, 2016 15:47 |
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Is the Japanese pilot pool capped at some arbitrary size? Is it viable to hoard pilots and train them in low-risk China until kamikazes become available?
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# ? Oct 1, 2016 18:10 |
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You graph naming convention is maddening. My Allied Allied AI My Japanese AI Japanese Do you see what you're doing to your audience? It took me three times just to mistype it like that because my brain kept trying to help me and type it right. Why do you do this to us Croctopus???? Also, the colors, don't you think the allied colors should be in the same family and the japanese colors should be in the same family with the darker color indicating GH controlled forces and the lighter color indicating AI controlled forces? i ask because it is a rhetorical question they should
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# ? Oct 1, 2016 19:31 |
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TehKeen posted:Out of curiosity what are some examples of ships getting blow up by dive bombers? I imagine a 1000lb AP bomb isn't very nice to most things. Also, Japanese dive bombers sank the HMS Hermes, which had been the first dedicated aircraft carrier, as well as a bunch of cruisers. The Val was a pretty effective plane. On the American side, Helldivers participated in the sinking of the Musashi and the Yamato, and scuttled the carrier Kaga and sank the Zuikako.
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# ? Oct 2, 2016 00:38 |
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TehKeen posted:Out of curiosity what are some examples of ships getting blow up by dive bombers? I imagine a 1000lb AP bomb isn't very nice to most things. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_battleship_Petropavlovsk_(1911)#Service Russian Battleship Marat, credited to Stuka Pilot Hans-Ulrich Rudel
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# ? Oct 2, 2016 00:42 |
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Is there a reason you haven't converted that rather-significant Ki-27 production to something useful, like more A6M3s, Ki-43s, or Ki-44s?
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# ? Oct 2, 2016 01:08 |
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MrYenko posted:Is there a reason you haven't converted that rather-significant Ki-27 production to something useful, like more A6M3s, Ki-43s, or Ki-44s? Japanese industry is: Lame Boring Confusing
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# ? Oct 2, 2016 01:15 |
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TildeATH posted:You graph naming convention is maddening. Yeah, I didn't wanna say anything but it's driving me insane too Like, you could have this game's Japan (you) as dark red and US as light blue, then last game's Japan as lighter red/pink and your US as dark blue. Would look much better.
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# ? Oct 2, 2016 09:07 |
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I need to re-task these guys, their just throwing planes away! A defence force walks back into this base, we make them surrender quickly. That's another minor group wiped out, but at the moment I'm mainly doing recon. This is when I wan the Allies to sortie another carrier!
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# ? Oct 2, 2016 17:13 |
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Paging the AI, time for Doolittle 2: Doobig or Doohome
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Today's historical warship loss takes us, once again, back to the Atlantic, and it's a doozy. HMS Curacoa was a C-class light cruiser, completed shortly before the end of WWI. By 1942 she had been converted to an antiaircraft cruiser mounting eight 4" guns (it was a simpler time, when this was considered to be a real AA suite). She spent most of her war service escorting convoys in the Western Approaches. Just north of Ireland on 2 October 1942, she rendezvoused with the famous (and enormous—over 80,000 tons) RMS Queen Mary, which was carrying American troops to Britain. The latter ship was proceeding at high speed on a zig-zag path to avoid submarine attack. The two ships' courses intersected and, the captains not agreeing as to who had the right of way, Queen Mary plowed into Curacoa amidships at nearly 30 knots, neatly slicing her in two. The severed halves sank quickly, taking with them more than 300 officers and crew; the survivors remained in the water for several hours until destroyers arrived on scene to rescue them.
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# ? Oct 2, 2016 17:44 |
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I'm not a maritime lawyer but afaik the bigger boat always has the right of way. Was the cruiser secretly a sloop or something? That's the only thing I can think of. TehKeen fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Oct 2, 2016 |
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OpenlyEvilJello posted:Today's historical warship loss takes us, once again, back to the Atlantic, and it's a doozy. HMS Curacoa was a C-class light cruiser, completed shortly before the end of WWI. By 1942 she had been converted to an antiaircraft cruiser mounting eight 4" guns (it was a simpler time, when this was considered to be a real AA suite). She spent most of her war service escorting convoys in the Western Approaches. Just north of Ireland on 2 October 1942, she rendezvoused with the famous (and enormous—over 80,000 tons) RMS Queen Mary, which was carrying American troops to Britain. The latter ship was proceeding at high speed on a zig-zag path to avoid submarine attack. The two ships' courses intersected and, the captains not agreeing as to who had the right of way, Queen Mary plowed into Curacoa amidships at nearly 30 knots, neatly slicing her in two. The severed halves sank quickly, taking with them more than 300 officers and crew; the survivors remained in the water for several hours until destroyers arrived on scene to rescue them. Not bad for an unarmed cruise ship.
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# ? Oct 2, 2016 20:01 |
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She cut the other ship in half and just kept going. Savage.
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# ? Oct 2, 2016 20:05 |
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Those guys at Tarakan sure do have gently caress all supplies.
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# ? Oct 2, 2016 20:18 |
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An 80,000 ton ship nailing a 4.1k ton ship at about 28 knots directly amidships was never going to work out of well. It's kind of hard to see, but the damage was so minor to the Queen Mary that she finished the war with most of the original bow still in place.
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# ? Oct 2, 2016 20:55 |
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Ron Jeremy posted:She cut the other ship in half and just kept going. Savage. That's actually the right move, when you look at it from a wartime utilitarian perspective. She had 10,000 troops on board, and stopping would make you an easy target for a submarine that might be lurking nearby.
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# ? Oct 2, 2016 20:59 |
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PittTheElder posted:That's actually the right move, when you look at it from a wartime utilitarian perspective. She had 10,000 troops on board, and stopping would make you an easy target for a submarine that might be lurking nearby. Agreed, but still savage. Toot toot motherfucker. Out of my way.
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# ? Oct 2, 2016 21:01 |
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PittTheElder posted:That's actually the right move, when you look at it from a wartime utilitarian perspective. She had 10,000 troops on board, and stopping would make you an easy target for a submarine that might be lurking nearby. You can't even toss a lifeboat or two overboard?
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# ? Oct 2, 2016 22:17 |
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Leperflesh posted:You can't even toss a lifeboat or two overboard?
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# ? Oct 3, 2016 03:40 |
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I send the Kido Butai out for a live fire training exercise. They find a good sized convoy to maul. The ten Kates that get lost still find the target and finish the job. I will also need to send troops to clean up Lunga. I don;t know why they have a fatigue modifier, they looked ok on their main data sheet – anyway, its a step in the right direction for taking the base. When things get dull, send out the carriers! I'm daring the American's to come out and stop me!
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# ? Oct 4, 2016 05:23 |
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Zero's go in and strafe the runway. The Vals completely miss a Flower class ship. Another remnant force is forced to retreat by force of arms. Did I force that? No kills today, but I've got a surprise for you guys coming up!
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# ? Oct 4, 2016 17:20 |
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Grey Hunter posted:No kills today, but I've got a surprise for you guys coming up! Oh, poo poo.
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# ? Oct 4, 2016 17:26 |
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Gimmick Account posted:Oh, poo poo. Farewell, Yamato!
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# ? Oct 4, 2016 17:30 |
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Tokyo Bay Fortress has been sunk.
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# ? Oct 4, 2016 17:54 |
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Alright make your predictions. I'm saying Allies lose 40,000+ tons.
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# ? Oct 4, 2016 18:00 |
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Chungking falls twice in a day?
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# ? Oct 4, 2016 18:02 |
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The Japanese invasion of Africa begins!
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# ? Oct 4, 2016 18:21 |
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The Allies land on Honshu
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# ? Oct 4, 2016 18:37 |
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Objective: Vancouver
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# ? Oct 4, 2016 18:39 |
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Since the land war has been going better than the naval theater, Grey reveals that he's going all-in on a land invasion of the Soviet Union
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# ? Oct 4, 2016 18:44 |
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what's the importance of the green number in the Manchiruan garrison?
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# ? Oct 4, 2016 18:48 |
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Ron Jeremy posted:
If the Manchurian garrison drops below that strength, the Soviets come calling.
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# ? Oct 4, 2016 18:56 |
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tunapirate posted:Since the land war has been going better than the naval theater, Grey reveals that he's going all-in on a land invasion of the Soviet Union Nah, he'll wait until winter is in full-swing.
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