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They can get a sort of jangly broken sound but like in a good way that I like
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I hit a bit of a wall with the Justin lessons lately. I've been studiously sticking to his material and just arrived at blues rhythm guitar coming out if his awesome music theory 4 module: https://www.justinguitar.com/modules/BRG1/ Before this covid thing hit, I was planning to start lessons, but for now I'm trying to stick to this. Problem is, the 12 bar blues is killing me. I absolutely hate it. But I feel like it's this bedrock to the style of stuff I actually enjoy playing. More like funk chord progressions, maggot brain type of stuff. Frusciante inspired sounds. What do you guys think? Is the 12 bar blues and learning to solo over it this bedrock foundational material? Did you work on that as a bridge to other stuff? I'm tempted to just completely skip this unit and get on with it, but I don't really know enough to know if I'd be hobbling myself.
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Apr 7, 2020 19:48
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former glory posted:I hit a bit of a wall with the Justin lessons lately. I've been studiously sticking to his material and just arrived at blues rhythm guitar coming out if his awesome music theory 4 module: Here's Justing talking with Josh Smith who plays lots of 12 bar blues stuff while they chat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ME_4HlpYv0 Watch and decide =)
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Apr 7, 2020 20:20
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You could try learning some of the jazz variants. Lots of fun chord substitutions to try.
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Apr 7, 2020 20:30
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One more week (until the 15th) to meet the Rain Song Challenge!
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Apr 7, 2020 20:35
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What's wrong with the 12-bar blues, specifically? I mean, yeah, it sounds like the absolute fifties the way Justin plays it, but that's because he's teaching the barest-bones, most easily recognizable form of it. Here's what those bones can sound like if you flesh them out with a nice tone and some songwriting chops: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XITBuWNROk
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Apr 7, 2020 20:45
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It's useful to know and yeah, stuff you're talking about has a blues influence, so it's good to be able to do it. It's about knowing the chord structure (which is nice and simple, but with lots of scope for exploration and experimentation) and being able to come up with melodies that interact with that, to imply upcoming changes and so on If you really hate it, my advice is to make it a joke instead. Go for the absolute cheesiest, clichéd stuff possible. Write a dumb song and go ham on the lead licks. It's good for creativity and you'll probably be more engaged with the lessons
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Apr 7, 2020 20:47
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Siivola posted:What's wrong with the 12-bar blues, specifically? I mean, yeah, it sounds like the absolute fifties the way Justin plays it, but that's because he's teaching the barest-bones, most easily recognizable form of it. 
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Apr 7, 2020 20:49
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I want to pick up a Telecaster and I like to buy new because I'm dumb. Can someone school me on Telecaster models from $1000-2000?
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Apr 7, 2020 21:04
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Add $475 to your budget and get a Mulecaster. 
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Apr 7, 2020 21:09
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Siivola posted:What's wrong with the 12-bar blues, specifically? I mean, yeah, it sounds like the absolute fifties the way Justin plays it, but that's because he's teaching the barest-bones, most easily recognizable form of it. Listen to the people who play blues tunes, then listen to people who take ancient blues songs and stamp them with new harmonies and melodies and tones and originality. My hero of this style is the great Robben Ford.
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Apr 7, 2020 22:59
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Walked posted:I want to pick up a Telecaster and I like to buy new because I'm dumb. My dad bought a usa standard Tele in 07 and its been a stand up instrument ever since. You really don't need to over spend on a T-type.
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Apr 8, 2020 00:32
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former glory posted:I hit a bit of a wall with the Justin lessons lately. I've been studiously sticking to his material and just arrived at blues rhythm guitar coming out if his awesome music theory 4 module: 12 bar blues contains a ton of information and chords that you'll need to know immediately and later on. don't skip it. blues is, at least on a surface level, one of the easiest sorts of chord progressions to learn and digest. i remember learning it in 7th grade band, with a bunch of other horn players. if you can't understand the basic concepts in a 12 bar blues then you'll have a hell of a time with almost anything else. listen to some classic recordings and stick with it. once you're fluent with the basics you can let your ear guide you to a more authentic sound. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CP-kz51lUA beer gas canister fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Apr 8, 2020 |
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Apr 8, 2020 01:14
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Walked posted:I want to pick up a Telecaster and I like to buy new because I'm dumb. I'm not really sure that spending over $1000 really gets you much value in with telecasters. I've only heard positive things about the Made In Mexico guitars ($600-900) and even the $400-450 Squier Classic Vibes are supposed to be excellent. I'd also look at the G&L ASAT series.
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Apr 8, 2020 03:40
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Siivola posted:What's wrong with the 12-bar blues, specifically? I mean, yeah, it sounds like the absolute fifties the way Justin plays it, but that's because he's teaching the barest-bones, most easily recognizable form of it. It's just that, really. The intro to that module with the 12 bar I-IV-V shuffle straight from the 50s. It just completely deflated my balloon. I've been playing progressions and soloing over them with my looper for a little while now and I'm never doing a I-IV-V like that and in that rhythm, and it's not a place I really want to visit. But my main goal is to develop a good feel for what to play over what chords with my ear, so I can see how spending time on a set progression would help me develop that faster. It's just so not the sound I'm looking for. That said, the Gary Clark track was great. I feel more inspired having heard that and watching of the vids posted here. Maybe I'll just make it a point to listen to some blues and give it some time.
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Apr 8, 2020 05:31
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just skip it if you don't want to play some corny buddy holly thing dude there's no law saying you have to learn one thing before you can learn another
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Apr 8, 2020 05:36
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I think there's some value in "having to" learn a genre or style that you personally don't like as long as it doesn't kill your enthusiasm for the instrument; it can help you approach the instrument from a different angle as well as making you generally more versatile. Josh Homme learned guitar from a polka guitar instructor because that was the only teacher in his town. That said if it IS killing your interest in the instrument skip it. Blues soloing is fairly fundamental on guitar but it can also be a pitfall. 12 bar is absolutely not fundamental to playing guitar, even though it can be helpful. I think eventually understanding the role of the tonic, subdominant, and dominant in songwriting is important, but that can wait and 12 bar is just one way to get to that understanding.
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Apr 8, 2020 05:46
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well i meant more don't feel as if you're locked in to going through a specific order or spend a lot of time working on a particular thing if it doesn't interest you at the moment when doing a self-guided youtube lesson series you can always come back to that later if you want or need to
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Apr 8, 2020 07:23
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Baron von Eevl posted:That said if it IS killing your interest in the instrument skip it.
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Apr 8, 2020 08:11
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BeastOfExmoor posted:I'm not really sure that spending over $1000 really gets you much value in with telecasters. I've only heard positive things about the Made In Mexico guitars ($600-900) and even the $400-450 Squier Classic Vibes are supposed to be excellent. I'd also look at the G&L ASAT series.
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Apr 8, 2020 16:33
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Thanks for all the advice. I just messed around trying to do an exaggerated blues "well since my mawwwwwwww mawwwww left meeeeee DO DO DO DO DOOOO" pentatonic per baka's great suggestion and it's pretty fun. Wife thinks it sounds better than my usual noodling.  My fear is just that basically all the stuff I want to play is all ~blues influenced~ so I'm worried if I don't spend the time in this, then I'll be showing up to a ball game without a glove sort of deal. I also see he's got some 7th chord shuffles in the module, which could get pretty cool. I'm going to give her an honest go at least.
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Apr 8, 2020 16:49
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sounds like you need to serenade her with a MY WIFE... MY WIFE SHE'S GOT THA BLUES OH YEAH BABY full on Blueshammer session I haven't seen the lessons but you can experiment with the form I reckon. You can mix up the rhythm (make it really sparse if you want), experiment with the melody (hit the 3rd of the next chord before the change happens, avoid all root notes), do some long rear end bends, kick in the distortion, use power chords and add in passing chords (like where you go from the IV to the V), that kind of thing 7th chords are cool too, like here's a thing pre:Ab7 464544 Db9 x4344x Eb9 x6566x Eb#9 x6567x (do this on the turnaround or wherever you want to spice up the Eb chord, or hell do it on the Db too)
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Apr 8, 2020 18:08
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that reminds me, I think someone on here brought this up and it's pretty cool here's the chords for a 12-bar progression on two strings pre:Ab7 x34xxx Db7 x23xxx Eb7 x45xxx It's about the sparsest version of the form you can get, and playing it straight is kinda hard for your ears to make sense of it - easier with other instruments giving hints, or if you play a fuller version of the progression first so your ears have a reference point. But if you wanna get minimalist and experimental, have a play around with that!
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Apr 8, 2020 18:14
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Is there any other exercise generator / good exercise book like music discipline out there? I'd love to expend my structured exercise work a bit more; unfortunately no 1:1 instruction at this time
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Apr 8, 2020 18:19
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former glory posted:My fear is just that basically all the stuff I want to play is all ~blues influenced~ so I'm worried if I don't spend the time in this, then I'll be showing up to a ball game without a glove sort of deal. 99% of the time that just means dicking around with a minor pentatonic box pattern
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Apr 8, 2020 21:50
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I just noticed that Sweetwater has G&L guitars now. Extremely liking the look of the Doheny: https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/DhnyTBLPB--g-and-l-tribute-doheny-electric-guitar-lake-placid-blue
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Apr 8, 2020 21:55
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The Leck posted:My old 50's Baja Telecaster was great, and it looks like it's been reborn as the Vintera 50's Modified Telecaster. They're the fancier/upgraded line of Made in Mexico guitars, and they have some nice upgrades (better pickups, 4 way switch, phase switch). If you want one with a really thick neck, the Vintera 50's Modified (new) or Baja 50's (used) are absolutely worth looking at. I bought a vintera 50's modified tele a few months ago and it's exactly what I wanted in a guitar, and my favorite to play when I don't need humbuckers. I think the modified series also has slimmer necks than the other vinteras which are supposedly vintage spec. The electronics are cool too, it's similar to a jaguar as I understand it. The 4-way switch adds both pickups wired in series, and a pushbutton on the knob puts the pickups out of phase.
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Apr 8, 2020 21:55
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Booyah- posted:I bought a vintera 50's modified tele a few months ago and it's exactly what I wanted in a guitar, and my favorite to play when I don't need humbuckers.
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Apr 8, 2020 22:48
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The Leck posted:Huh, I had thought the Vintera 50's modified had the same giant soft V neck as the Baja 50's. Either way, it's very much in the same vein as the Baja, and that's maybe the one guitar I've sold over the years that I actually regret getting rid of. Looks like it has the same neck pickup too, so I know at least half of it sounds great. It has a soft v neck according to this so you're probably right, I might have only played pretty large necks. https://shop.fender.com/en-US/electric-guitars/telecaster/vintera-50s-telecaster/0149852340.html
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Apr 8, 2020 23:00
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quick bit of info on the blues stuff: much like any genre, the people you want to emulate almost certainly did not do a YouTube course as their lessons, but probably hosed around solo and with buddies. It’s 100% rad to stick to lessons but it’s also 100% fine to mess around and do your own thing.
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Apr 9, 2020 00:04
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one joe bonamassa is more than enough
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Apr 9, 2020 00:17
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^^ lol you're killing me. --Baka, that first form with the 5th string root 9th chords is pretty cool. thx
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Apr 9, 2020 02:36
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Thanks y'alldarkwasthenight posted:Check the output directly from the pickup before it hits the switch or anything. If that's low then the pickup is probably dead. It happens but not often. Its dead, jim.  Guess I get to learn how to replace a pickup. Is there any reason to suspect the neck pickup is going to die soon, too?
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Apr 9, 2020 03:40
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No reason to suspect that. Pickups just die sometimes.
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Apr 9, 2020 06:12
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former glory posted:^^ lol you're killing me. you asked about funk stuff in particular 70s funkadelic etc a lot of it's just hanging on one or two chords, going back and forth between the regular and 7th, sometimes incorporating a I-IV-V progression, though often something like IV-V-I or IV-I , which is where knowing the 12 bar form is useful extended chords (9th/11th/13th), shell voicings, and stacked 4ths are way more important. the hendrix chord too. you can generally pick out the progression from the bass
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Apr 9, 2020 06:13
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How does a pickup die? I thought it was basically just an inert coil of wire.
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Apr 9, 2020 08:36
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The wire can break. It doesn't take much, it's literally hair-thin.
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Apr 9, 2020 10:06
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not that a ton of folks show up to my shows, but not being able to play out is killing my motivation right now. im all dressed up and nowhere to go 
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Apr 9, 2020 15:20
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Set up a Twitch livestream, I'm sure at least three goons will tune on.
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https://soundcloud.com/user-443451412/stitch I'm getting closer to the version of this song I want to put on my EP... I'm too perfectionist though, already all the flaws are shaking their gory locks at me
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