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mcmagic posted:Best case is health care dies and we get to spend August asking them why rich people need a huge tax cut. They create jobs, duh. Republican voters believe this, forgetting or ignoring all the time that the "supply and demand" model of capitalism doesn't work if no one is paid enough to provide the "demand" part. We've already breached that threshold to be honest and I'm surprised more people can't see it. I have no car payment, my house is paid for, I have health coverage, good credit and make slightly above the median household income for my area and I STILL have very little left at the end of a pay period. All it takes is suddenly needing new tires, an AC repair or any of the usual unexpected expenses that affect everybody to put me in a bind where I have to use a credit card for something. I buy cheap and go to flea markets, consignment shops, garage sales and poo poo like that. I don't buy expensive things and am pretty cheap and frugal. I don't visit the doctor unless I really need to. I don't take expensive vacations. I get my books from the library. The only real expenses I have are utilities, car insurance, property taxes and child support and it's still a bitch getting those numbers to balance. I can't imagine what it's like for your average person driving a truck, waiting tables or doing landscaping work in AZ or something and why those same people convince themselves to hate unions, willingly give up their power and leverage as workers and rationalize voting Republican somehow. "DENTAL PLAN!"...."LISA NEEDS BRACES"
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Chilichimp posted:Wait... am I remembering this correctly, doesn't a bill that exceeds 120b in additional deficit not qualify as a budget reconciliation? You might be confused by the minus sine. They both reduce the deficit by more than enough.
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Captain Invictus posted:I initially misread it as "brain sits down with speaker ryan" and I think that's a much better headline  I didn't lose my Ferrari, I simply chose not to buy it.
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evilweasel posted:budget is a "need" to pass tax cuts, its a prerequisite for the 2018 reconciliation bill and for some reason the HFC won't accept a "TBD, but with reconciliation instructions" (this is what they did to get the Obamacare reconciliation bill) and is causing a whole mess This all assumes the Republicans are rational and informed actors. Given the stupidity around the last default crisis, I don't think that is a safe assumption.
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evilweasel posted:saying what we all knew, but for that one person who was insisting manchin was going to vote for this: That was me, and it's good to finally see explicit opposition.
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Rigel posted:This is fine. Our country is fine. Spicey is going to try and humiliate Jim Acosta.
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evilweasel posted:they can't get hard votes done like the boarder-adjustment tax or tax reform instead of tax cuts, but the bat and tax reform are dead and they're just doing tax cuts And mid to lower middle class blue collar people vote for it even though their taxes only go down like $150 a year while decrying unions, pensions and collective bargaining rights at the same time they bitch about the dead end job they're stuck in, how little time off they get and their heavily regulated meal and personal break times. It's astonishing to me.
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Reik posted:Which insurance company has endorsed the senate healthcare bill? Aetna, iirc.
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A totally real phone call. That's why the screen is still on with the proximity sensor pressed to his head. https://twitter.com/igorbobic/status/879741549311078400
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Rigel posted:You might be confused by the minus sine. They both reduce the deficit by more than enough. thanks, I guess I assumed a minus sign would mean it adds to the deficit.
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aware of dog posted:Aetna, iirc. Their preference is a fully-funded Obamacare. In a world where the cheeto nazi is able to withhold subsidies for many states, sticking the insurance companies with must-issue, community rating, and Trump maliciously refuses to pay them the subsidies (which would lead to a death spiral and companies pulling out of the exchanges), then they'd rather reluctantly have the Senate bill.
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https://twitter.com/SabrinaSiddiqui/status/879747705869918208 I don't like this. This seems like you're getting your slush funding. I want this thing to die because I don't want lots of people to die for greedy old men to get another gold plated great room.
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aware of dog posted:Aetna, iirc. I think it was Anthem.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:This all assumes the Republicans are rational and informed actors. Given the stupidity around the last default crisis, I don't think that is a safe assumption. They aren't but leadership is. That's why they'll almost certainly have to go hat in hand to Pelosi w/r/t the debt limit and the shutdown, like they already did this term.
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No Butt Stuff posted:https://twitter.com/SabrinaSiddiqui/status/879747705869918208 This will kill support for it among the HFC and other Republican crazies.
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No Butt Stuff posted:https://twitter.com/SabrinaSiddiqui/status/879747705869918208 Wouldn't adding funding for PP lose some other senators? I'm looking at you Cruz.
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farraday posted:Now for a quick moment we all can enjoy. lmao. G'wan Leo, what a lad. (actually he's a centrist poor-bashing prick, but this was good at least) P.S.: what's the real context behind James O' Keefe's latest bullshit? I don't want the migraine of actually investigating that tripe myself WeAreTheRomans fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Jun 27, 2017 |
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evilweasel posted:They aren't but leadership is. That's why they'll almost certainly have to go hat in hand to Pelosi w/r/t the debt limit and the shutdown, like they already did this term. I hope you're right, but that "almost" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there.
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it's been like a decade since I last saw someone using "IBM" as a noun for a wintel PC, neat
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cyphr555 posted:I think it was Anthem. Haha, yeah it was them. What a bunch of idiots.
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evilweasel posted:it's been like a decade since I last saw someone using "IBM" as a noun for a wintel PC, neat Well, big pharma uses Thinkpads almost exclusively, so I guess it's kind of accurate if you ignore the fact that Lenovo make them now
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No Butt Stuff posted:https://twitter.com/SabrinaSiddiqui/status/879747705869918208 This same type of amendment would make it unpassable in the House, sooooo
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WeAreTheRomans posted:
He gets alot of money from the Mercers.
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No Butt Stuff posted:https://twitter.com/SabrinaSiddiqui/status/879747705869918208 If they get an amendment to add planned parenthood funding, the bill is dead.
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WeAreTheRomans posted:Well, big pharma uses Thinkpads almost exclusively, so I guess it's kind of accurate if you ignore the fact that Lenovo make them now And have for a loving decade.
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Unless Collins and Murkowski refuse to vote yes without the PP amendment this is just theater.
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mcmagic posted:He gets alot of money from the Mercers. I meant what's the actual context of the CNN clip? "absolutely nothing" is an answer I'm willing to accept
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cyphr555 posted:I think it was Anthem. Ah yes, you're right, my mistake.
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Chilichimp posted:And have for a loving decade. there is no need to be upset
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farraday posted:Unless Collins and Murkowski refuse to vote yes without the PP amendment this is just theater. They've got a couple hundred billion in deficit reduction to buy off republican senators with. They'll figure out a way to get this done.
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WeAreTheRomans posted:there is no need to be upset I worked in an IBM call center for laptop warranty support when they sold off that branch of the business. Lenovo made some poo poo laptops, my dude.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/879749925004869632 So many concerns. All of the concerns.
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Chilichimp posted:I worked in an IBM call center for laptop warranty support when they sold off that branch of the business. I would agree anything out of the T series is a load of loving garbage. I bought a y510 that had the motherboard die on it twice. Once in warranty and once outside. Had to sell the damned thing for parts. They have been steadily slipping. Meanwhile my T400 is still kicking with all the original parts.
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Xombie posted:This same type of amendment would make it unpassable in the House, sooooo the fear has never really been that Collins and Murkowski will actually get the PP funding put back in and therefore vote for it, it's that they will satisfy their pro-PP "principles" by getting a vote to put the funding back in, then once that fails go welp we tried it's worrying that collins, despite being a supposed no who won't even allow this to proceed, sees the need for such an amendment though
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:I would agree anything out of the T series is a load of loving garbage. I bought a y510 that had the motherboard die on it twice. Once in warranty and once outside. Had to sell the damned thing for parts. x-series is usually good as well, things that are not thinkpad branded are the usual consumer-grade garbage unless (sometimes) it's a yoga, also some thinkpad-branded stuff is also garbage (e-series maybe?_
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DaveWoo posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/879749925004869632 Disturbing. Concerns. Unsettling. Serious concerns. Disappointing. Grave concerns. Unfortunate. Upsetting.
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