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Thermopyle posted:Samsung doesn't have a track record of exploding phones. LG has a long track record of bootlooping phones. All of the 808/810 generation, which was now two years ago. And since people managed to fix it by disabling cores it seems to be a problem of this Snapdragon version and LG's implementation.
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Sep 27, 2017 04:11
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Decius posted:All of the 808/810 generation, which was now two years ago. And since people managed to fix it by disabling cores it seems to be a problem of this Snapdragon version and LG's implementation. The v20 has the same problem
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Blue Train posted:The v20 has the same problem It's a different problem with the same symptoms, you see, because
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Sep 27, 2017 04:36
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RVProfootballer posted:I picked up a Moto E4...this thing is shockingly solid. Haven't taken pictures yet, but performance and battery seem great so far. Fingerprint sensor has been flawless. It's $40 from Walmart (or price matched at Target or wherever) for the Verizon prepaid version, and an unlock code is $2 on eBay and let's you use it on T-Mobile or AT&T. If anyone is still holding onto a Nexus 5 or bootlooping 5X or 6P and wants to wait for Pixel 2 availability or Pixel 1 price drops, this is a super cheap option to tide you over, and/or maybe make you rethink spending so much. (I'm still going to buy a Pixel 2 because I'm an idiot!) Does it have a compass? I know Motorola likes to leave out poo poo like that.
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Sep 27, 2017 10:39
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LastInLine posted:Does it have a compass? I know Motorola likes to leave out poo poo like that. http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_e4-8721.php Unless I'm mistaken, it doesn't appear there so no wich is kind of stupid but hey.
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Sep 27, 2017 10:49
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RVProfootballer posted:I picked up a Moto E4...this thing is shockingly solid. Haven't taken pictures yet, but performance and battery seem great so far. Fingerprint sensor has been flawless. It's $40 from Walmart (or price matched at Target or wherever) for the Verizon prepaid version, and an unlock code is $2 on eBay and let's you use it on T-Mobile or AT&T. If anyone is still holding onto a Nexus 5 or bootlooping 5X or 6P and wants to wait for Pixel 2 availability or Pixel 1 price drops, this is a super cheap option to tide you over, and/or maybe make you rethink spending so much. (I'm still going to buy a Pixel 2 because I'm an idiot!) Anyone know if it would be possible to buy this from Walmart then have Tracphone send a simcard and activate it on their service? Would I also need an ebay unlock code? I think Tracphone uses Verizon towers. My Dad barley uses his cell and has a flip phone with Tracphone minutes right now. This would be nice to let him try a smartphone but stay on Tracfone with his current number and minutes.
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Sep 27, 2017 11:21
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Blue Train posted:The v20 has the same problem Qualcomm suuuucks, it's totally possible the issue is still present in the 820+ chips. God I wish all their competitors weren't in-house-use-only. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 11:28 on Sep 27, 2017 |
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Sep 27, 2017 11:25
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MikeJF posted:Qualcomm suuuucks, it's totally possible the issue is still present in the 820+ chips. There's always Mediatek!
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Sep 27, 2017 11:46
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 I assume that the company that would be genuinely closest to reaching the point they could properly compete, Exynos and Apple aside, would be NVIDIA; would that be accurate? Although they seem to have lost enthusiasm lately.
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Sep 27, 2017 12:23
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MikeJF posted:
When Nvidia did make mobile SoCs they were astoundingly terrible. How do you not remember the LG G2x, the first LG to require a class action suit to remedy? The cause? Well, that would've been the Nvidia Tegra2.
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Sep 27, 2017 12:28
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"A source" is claiming that the Pixel XL 2 will have stereo front-facing speakers.
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Sep 27, 2017 12:37
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Vykk.Draygo posted:"A source" is claiming that the Pixel XL 2 will have stereo front-facing speakers. I feel like this isn't the first time that rumor has popped up. Which is good because that's one of the changes I wanted from the pixel.
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LastInLine posted:When Nvidia did make mobile SoCs they were astoundingly terrible. How do you not remember the LG G2x, the first LG to require a class action suit to remedy? The cause? Well, that would've been the Nvidia Tegra2.
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:They do alright now when they use off-the-shelf cores and don’t attempt their Project Denver dynamic recompilation garbage. The non-Denver version of Tegra K1 was pretty good, as is the Tegra X1. They’re both a bit dated now though. The newest Tegras (X2 and Xavier) seem to be emphasizing consumer applications less, and I’m not sure what Nvidia’s strategy with that division is now. Yeah they’d still work in something like a phone, but it looks like they’re pushing hard to cash in on the deep learning coprocessor market. Yes, they abandoned the mobile market and their focus is on car infotainment systems and self-driving systems. I feel this is likely due to mobile data. Very few can compete with Qualcomm when it comes to LTE modems. If you are an android manufacturer and want a premium SoC, you are more likely to choose a SoC with an integrated LTE modem than chose another SoC with marginal gains and have to package a separate LTE modem. bull3964 fucked around with this message at 13:36 on Sep 27, 2017 |
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Sep 27, 2017 13:28
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Yeah, I forgot about the Tegra 2; they came to mind because I have a Shield vK1 and it's been pretty drat trusty.
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The chip in the Switch seems pretty solid. It's even the same quad-A57+quad-A53 arrangement as the 810, proving that it can be done without being a thermal/performance disaster.
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Sep 27, 2017 13:33
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Theris posted:The chip in the Switch seems pretty solid. It's even the same quad-A57+quad-A53 arrangement as the 810, proving that it can be done without being a thermal/performance disaster. The Switch is just a slightly customized X1 (disabled the A53 cores), the Google Pixel C and the Nivida ShieldTV also uses the X1. It still holds its own for 3d performance against the latest Qualcomm offerings, but it's not a great choice for small devices that need mobile data nor is it terribly power efficient. Nvidia's secret sauce has always been 3d performance and there really isn't much demand for 3d performance beyond what qualcomm provides right now. Otherwise you just have off the shelf ARM cores on an outdated manufacturing process.
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Theris posted:The chip in the Switch seems pretty solid. It's even the same quad-A57+quad-A53 arrangement as the 810, proving that it can be done without being a thermal/performance disaster. Actually, it's not LITTLE.big like the 810. It presents itself as a quad-core processor and changes from running on the A53s to the A57s depending on load.
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:They do alright now when they use off-the-shelf cores and don’t attempt their Project Denver dynamic recompilation garbage. The non-Denver version of Tegra K1 was pretty good, as is the Tegra X1. They’re both a bit dated now though. The newest Tegras (X2 and Xavier) seem to be emphasizing consumer applications less, and I’m not sure what Nvidia’s strategy with that division is now. Yeah they’d still work in something like a phone, but it looks like they’re pushing hard to cash in on the deep learning coprocessor market. Project Denver was so incredibly stupid. My Nexus 9 was blazingly fast one moment only to feel like molasses a second later. Why did they ever think the whole thing was a good idea? The Pixel C on the other hand still works really well, as does the Switch (although I wish Nintendo had sprung for the next gen version, Switch versions are a pretty big step down compared to the PC version and console versions at times).
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Sep 27, 2017 14:28
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Decius posted:Project Denver was so incredibly stupid. My Nexus 9 was blazingly fast one moment only to feel like molasses a second later. Why did they ever think the whole thing was a good idea? The Pixel C on the other hand still works really well, as does the Switch (although I wish Nintendo had sprung for the next gen version, Switch versions are a pretty big step down compared to the PC version and console versions at times). Wasn't Denver the way it was because it was originally meant to be able to run x86 and ARM, but they ran afoul of Intel's patents and had to cut the x86 plans?
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MikeJF posted:Wasn't Denver the way it was because it was originally meant to be able to run x86 and ARM, but they ran afoul of Intel's patents and had to cut the x86 plans?
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kensei posted:Refurbished Pixels on sale at Woot again What do they mean by "Verizon and GSM unlocked"? which is it?
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LastInLine posted:Does it have a compass? I know Motorola likes to leave out poo poo like that. Guillermus posted:http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_e4-8721.php I think it does, actually. It has a magnetometer, and a random free compass app off the Playstore was able to detect the direction I was pointing and showed signal from the magnetometer. I don't know if it's handicapped compared to the sensor used in other phones in some way, though.
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WeAreTheRomans posted:What do they mean by "Verizon and GSM unlocked"? which is it? It's unlocked for use on GSM network, and also unlocked for use on Verizon. Why do you think it's enough either or?
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RVProfootballer posted:It's unlocked for use on GSM network, and also unlocked for use on Verizon. Why do you think it's enough either or? ah yeah. Sorry, in Europe where we only use GSM so I wasnt thinking about the GSM vs CDMA thing. Thanks!
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WeAreTheRomans posted:What do they mean by "Verizon and GSM unlocked"? which is it? Is it the Verizon model with locked bootloader?
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The lovely "unlocked" LG G5 that I was sent as a warranty replacement for a dead 5X is loving me over once again. I gave it to my dad to be used as a travel phone while he's in Europe, and it's refusing to pick up any local data service.
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Decius posted:Switch (although I wish Nintendo had sprung for the next gen version, Switch versions are a pretty big step down compared to the PC version and console versions at times). X2 is Denver2, so be careful what you wish for. It's unclear how much of an advantage the Pascal graphics would have had over the Maxwell in the X1. Clock for clock, Pascal is pretty similar to Maxwell though the 16nm FinFET process might have allowed for higher clocks before thermal throttling. That said, the X1 is very well understood and supported by Nvidia for this specific purpose (gaming) so the X2 may have been more of a liability.
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Blue Train posted:The v20 has the same problem And the G5, too.
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bull3964 posted:X2 is Denver2, so be careful what you wish for.
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Pixel trade in values are now known and pretty drat decent even compared to resale. http://www.droid-life.com/2017/09/27/google-store-pixel-trade-in-value/ $350 for 32gb Pixel, $360 for 128. $400 for 32 gb XL, $410 for 128.
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bull3964 posted:Pixel trade in values are now known and pretty drat decent even compared to resale. Pixel 2 just became way more likely for me. I've only had my pixel for a few months but getting a Pixel 2 for $299 after trade-in would be amazing. quote:Buy Pixel 2 (64GB), trade-in Pixel (32GB): $649 (Pixel 2) – $350 (Pixel) = $299
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Essential has sold just 5,000 phones since launch: BayStreet
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bull3964 posted:Not supporting the core security features of your own email platform in WP at launch was the most mind numbingly stupid move in existence which basically handed all RIM market share to iOS. this was so loving boneheaded I can't figure it out to this day. they had it all there. they had/have near complete dominance in business which was clamoring for a way to bridge mobile and business together and they just went 'lol nope but look live tiles!'
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Proud Christian Mom posted:this was so loving boneheaded I can't figure it out to this day. they had it all there. they had/have near complete dominance in business which was clamoring for a way to bridge mobile and business together and they just went 'lol nope but look live tiles!' A friend of mine worked at Microsoft and summed up his experiences over drinks once as "constant turf wars, meetings and groupthink". He complained a few times at how disconnected the internal thinking about Microsoft products was from its consumers. He hung around for awhile due to great salaries and benefits but ended up leaving because he felt like nothing ever got done in his division (not mobile).
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That's higher than I thought it would be. I was expecting instant catastrophic failure. To put it in perspective Apple sells 30,000 iPhones per hour.
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Mu Zeta posted:That's higher than I thought it would be. I was expecting instant catastrophic failure. What would you call 5,000 phones in a month if not instant catastrophic failure?? bull3964 posted:Pixel trade in values are now known and pretty drat decent even compared to resale. This owns, though. Compare: Galaxy S7 is currently available for $200-240 on Swappa, depending on carrier model, and iPhone 7 is around $400-450. So not quite to iPhone levels, but surprisingly close. Edit: huh, didn't realize S8 has been out so long (April!). Was just trying to compare to last year's flagships from the companies that matter, but that isn't quite fair when S7 is half a year older than the other flagships. sourdough fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Sep 27, 2017 |
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gently caress google why you gently caress canada all the time, gently caress! Let me trade-in!!!!!!
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