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Deathwatch is looking potentially actually broken. Hellfire Rounds gives Anti-Infantry 2+ to two Kill Teams so in conjunction with any spammable Devastating Wounds models it does an insane amount of damage. A Kill Team with 3 Assault Cannon Termies and 7 Combi Weapon dudes outputs 42 shots in 12" that turn into MWs on a 2+ against any infantry in the game. It's nuts.
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Winklebottom posted:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcE8z9TKlvA
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Eej posted:Deathwatch is looking potentially actually broken. Hellfire Rounds gives Anti-Infantry 2+ to two Kill Teams so in conjunction with any spammable Devastating Wounds models it does an insane amount of damage. A Kill Team with 3 Assault Cannon Termies and 7 Combi Weapon dudes outputs 42 shots in 12" that turn into MWs on a 2+ against any infantry in the game. It's nuts. I guess Deathwatch is about to join Aeldari in the banned-from-tournaments box. I'm sure they'll get along with each other fine in there.
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Jun 12, 2023 18:07
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Spanish Manlove posted:Murderfang looks like he's going to be a problem I'm more interest in Logan Grimnar with the chariot. You can put him in a a squad of thunder wolf cav, he gets 6 S8 -2AP D3 attacks, gives you a CP every time he kills a unit, and once per game gives you army wide re-roll charges and re-roll hits. That's awesome.
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Deathleaper is the bright special boy that figured out being spooky was more effective than being outright murderous so I have to imagine that the cape is just like the Kellermorph and a deliberate attempt to exploit human psychology. Namely, that humans are historically scared of draculas, so putting on a cape and playing dracula is a sure fire way to spook em.
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Jun 12, 2023 18:09
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i like the observation that frills like that are usually either mating displays or efforts to ward off predators, making the Deathleaper either The Horniest Tyranid or suggesting that there's something out there so horrifying that even Tyranids are evolving to try to avoid it rather than fight it and eat it
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Jun 12, 2023 18:10
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:In the era of trademark names I appreciate the simplicity of such guys as Murderfang, weapons: murder, ability: do murders Seriously. Let's all be glad he hasn't become Muerdari Fangitarum of the Adeptes Homicidus.
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Jun 12, 2023 18:10
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Kitchner posted:I'm more interest in Logan Grimnar with the chariot. He seems amazing but good luck navigating the boat and a twc squad through terrain If I took him I'd run him on foot and then teleport homer him with some assault terminators
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Jun 12, 2023 18:13
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Tyranids are intelligently designed. "It looks cool" can be both explanations for why it looks like that.
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Jun 12, 2023 18:15
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Spanish Manlove posted:He seems amazing but good luck navigating the boat and a twc squad through terrain I'm also liking the fact the flying transport can carry 8 Terminators and as long as they disembark before the transport moves they can charge and advance. There's got to be a combination there.
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Jun 12, 2023 18:19
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Kitchner posted:I'm also liking the fact the flying transport can carry 8 Terminators and as long as they disembark before the transport moves they can charge and advance. There's got to be a combination there. The combination is you don't take it because it sucks
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:Deathleaper is the bright special boy that figured out being spooky was more effective than being outright murderous so I have to imagine that the cape is just like the Kellermorph and a deliberate attempt to exploit human psychology. Namely, that humans are historically scared of draculas, so putting on a cape and playing dracula is a sure fire way to spook em. I'm going to imagine he uses the cape to obscure himself while he uses the little claws on his feet to make targets think he's just an easy to kill ripper.
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Jun 12, 2023 18:22
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the itsy bitsy ripper climbed up the guardsman's back
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I'm pleased with Arjac Rockfist's profile, obviously points blah blah but the flavor has been translated from 9th IMO and I look forward to him leading my army (which I have tons of work still to do on for even 1K but). Wolf Guard - CCWs have been condensed to a single "Heirloom weapon" profile which is fine I guess. BUT THEY CAN'T TAKE JUMPPACKS??? Wolf Guard Terminators - The wargear options have me slightly confused on if a dude can take a Heavy Flamer and (for example) a chainfist? "can replace its power fist and storm bolter with one of the following: heavy flamer", seems like the heavy weapon options remove your ability to be equipped with anything else which seems just maybe to be a poorly written datasheet. Thunderwolf Cav - CCWs have been condensed like the Wolf Guard, going to make the unit poo poo against high toughness targets no longer being able to take thunderhammers so that sucks. Long Fangs - they can have a Wolf Guard Pack Leader (in various flavors) attached to the unit and my Assault Cannon + Storm Shield model is still legal so that's a  from me.Cyberwolf - Has to attach to a unit of Fenrisian Wolves now or it counts as being destroyed, so no longer can you run it solo. Kind of whatever to me but I did have one all bought and painted up and no wolves so. I basically ignored looking much at Blood Claws, Grey Hunters, and comparing them to the troop units from vanilla SM - I'll just let the number crunchers tell me what the different units are good for when the points come out and run my models as that. Well thanks for reading my personal army list focused review of Space Wolves - The Datasheets
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Do ripper swarms only come from termagants sprues or do other units have them? Noticed you don't get enough to field a full unit with Leviathan. I remember Carnifexes have rippers on the sprue but I think they were just for decoration?
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Spanish Manlove posted:The combination is you don't take it because it sucks Live life a little  A friend of mine has been able to send through a leak of some Grey Knight datacards:
Be prepared for Grey Knight terminator spam. Draigo will be everywhere. Voldus will stay at home. Interceptors may still be annoying spammy units to grab objectives but since you can reposition 3 terminator units a turn worth 15OC that revive a dead guy every turn maybe not. Kitchner fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Jun 12, 2023 |
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Do ripper swarms only come from termagants sprues or do other units have them? Noticed you don't get enough to field a full unit with Leviathan. I think hormagaunts too, though I’m not 100% since it’s been ages since I bought/built any gaunts. IIRC carnifexes don’t, warriors came with them before the sprues got redone to add the swords and prime bits.
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:Deathleaper is the bright special boy that figured out being spooky was more effective than being outright murderous so I have to imagine that the cape is just like the Kellermorph and a deliberate attempt to exploit human psychology. Namely, that humans are historically scared of draculas, so putting on a cape and playing dracula is a sure fire way to spook em. Also possibly useful when spreading Genestealer infection, because it attracts the monsterfuckers.
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So who all can take thunder hammers now? Just Terminators and Blood Angels?
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wins32767 posted:So who all can take thunder hammers now? Just Terminators and Blood Angels? Many sergeants and characters. Presumably also at least Chaos lords and Helbrutes.
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wins32767 posted:So who all can take thunder hammers now? Just Terminators and Blood Angels? Sergeants and the two Company Veterans in Command Squads can all take thunder hammers. EDIT: Deathwatch vets can field 4 thunder hammers in a 10 person squad. Lumbermouth fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Jun 12, 2023 |
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tangy yet delightful posted:I'm pleased with Arjac Rockfist's profile, obviously points blah blah but the flavor has been translated from 9th IMO and I look forward to him leading my army (which I have tons of work still to do on for even 1K but). Missed out on Ragnar. I would run Ragnar, Björn and Murderfang in Gladius.
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MRLOLAST posted:Missed out on Ragnar. I'm just a weird little Arjac stan, and just don't really like the Ragnar model - yep I know I'm weird. It does look like I'll be getting some amount of vehicles with Björn and Murderfang and I'm eyeing terminators+Arjac+Landraider???
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tangy yet delightful posted:I'm just a weird little Arjac stan, and just don't really like the Ragnar model - yep I know I'm weird. You can't take wolf guard with jump packs but can still take jump pack vanguards vets
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Slashrat posted:I guess Deathwatch is about to join Aeldari in the banned-from-tournaments box. I'm sure they'll get along with each other fine in there. Good. I never wanted to play in stupid Tournaments anyway!
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Flashbacks to when D&D3e came out and people were banning monks for being OP before anyone had played them.
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Deathwatch looks dope but really points will decide everything. Gonna have to convert some Kill Team Veterans into a Captain, Lieutenant, and Chaplain though. I don't think I have any non-Primaris HQs for anything.
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Are the sprues worth anything to anyone at all after the minis are clipped out? Can they, I don't know, melt down to be grist for a 3D printer? I'd give them away, no need to profit, just don't wanna feel awful binning all this extra plastic.
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SuperKlaus posted:Are the sprues worth anything to anyone at all after the minis are clipped out? Can they, I don't know, melt down to be grist for a 3D printer? I'd give them away, no need to profit, just don't wanna feel awful binning all this extra plastic. i mean you can get creative with sprues but most of the time (in my admittedly limited experience) they're worse at the job than some copper wire and greenstuff
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SuperKlaus posted:Are the sprues worth anything to anyone at all after the minis are clipped out? Can they, I don't know, melt down to be grist for a 3D printer? I'd give them away, no need to profit, just don't wanna feel awful binning all this extra plastic. You can sculpt them into twisted girders or rebar or crystals. You can mix some chunks of them with a container full of thin plastic cement (like Tamiyo) to make a handy (but possibly extremely destructive, use with care!) gap-filling paste for plastic models. You can also cut them for spacers or wedges for an all-plastic kitbash. They're the perfect shape for a bar over a door. You can test new paints on them. They're worthless in the sense that nobody will pay money for them but it's good for every hobbyist to keep a little container of plastic blisters and sprue for crafting material. This is, at its base, an arts and crafts hobby.
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SuperKlaus posted:Are the sprues worth anything to anyone at all after the minis are clipped out? Can they, I don't know, melt down to be grist for a 3D printer? I'd give them away, no need to profit, just don't wanna feel awful binning all this extra plastic. They're recyclable, I believe. I know GW has done a trial scheme in the UK where certain GW stores have dedicated sprue recycling bins.
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I've started using them as a handle if I'm just spraypainting one mini or bits of one mini. Just glue it to a place where I can cut it off after that doesn't need/want spray paint and clip it off after.
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ABS (the kind of plastic GW uses) is very recyclable but even more uneconomic to collect from consumers than most plastics already are, unfortunately.
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Supposedly you can get cool rubble if you run sprue through a meat grinder. This is apparently false.
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moths posted:Supposedly you can get cool rubble if you run sprue through a meat grinder. You can do it with a meat grinder but that's mostly a stupid YouTube trick. If you want a pile of broken bricks, get proper wire cutters (not your sprue clippers!) and just cut some sprue to bits in a container large enough that you can fit your hands into it, so it catches loose pieces. (A ziplock freezer bag works.) It takes a while if you want a lot but you can do it while watching TV. This sort of rubble works for bricks or building rubble or steel rubble. Plus, since it's plastic, you can get technical with a really hot plastic cement to make it look melted, with some practice. (And worst-case, you're only ruining sprue.)
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Kitchner posted:Live life a little RIP daemon hammers tho.
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You can clip them up into roughly-even segments as use them for brick or stone ruins fake e: like without needing any extra tools, don't use a meat grinder
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Much wisdom. I'll keep em around to find a recycling or reuse opportunity someday.
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You can also clip them up into different sizes and glue them to a a little cardboard to make a textured drybrush pallette.
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