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Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




DO 👏NOT👏GIVE👏CGI👏RENDERS👏ATTENTION👏

It's the only way they'll go away.

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Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

DO 👏NOT👏GIVE👏CGI👏RENDERS👏ATTENTION👏

It's the only way they'll go away.

I'm with this guy.

Not a render:



Considering Harley has the most brilliant marketeers in the world, I'm utterly astounded that it hasn't occurred to them to stick lights and a front brake on one of these. Market it as a flat tracker for the road, heritage authentic vintage blah blah, absolutely crush the Scrambler and other wannabes by selling the real deal. Plus the engine is mechanically similar to the street twin models making the logistical side of production a lot easier.



Those pipes are goddamned sexual. Nearly every bike nowadays has styling that's incredibly conceited and fake-looking aggression-in-a-can bullshit. Simple designs that reflect an actual purpose or performance engineering are so much better.

Slavvy fucked around with this message at 02:12 on Feb 1, 2017

Skreemer
Jan 28, 2006
I like blue.

Slavvy posted:

I'm with this guy.

Not a render:



Considering Harley has the most brilliant marketeers in the world, I'm utterly astounded that it hasn't occurred to them to stick lights and a front brake on one of these. Market it as a flat tracker for the road, heritage authentic vintage blah blah, absolutely crush the Scrambler and other wannabes by selling the real deal. Plus the engine is mechanically similar to the street twin models making the logistical side of production a lot easier.



Those pipes are goddamned sexual. Nearly every bike nowadays has styling that's incredibly conceited and fake-looking aggression-in-a-can bullshit. Simple designs that reflect an actual purpose or performance engineering are so much better.

welcome to the Harley XR1200:
Regular street flavor:


Full one off race series version:


They raced as an also ran series during some of the AMA events and for 2 years during the Indianapolis MotoGP.

If you really wanted to a the time, you could have bought the bike from Harley, Bought the racing kit from Vance&Hines and then just ponied up the cash for entry if you had a racing license in the AMA.
all lovely photos below by yours truly at the Indianapolis MotoGP from 2012.
https://goo.gl/photos/fBzz2SK4cwwdZWB99
https://goo.gl/photos/RmtE4W6FRNDyAsTo9
https://goo.gl/photos/nCvYrjJfzLRKJewW7
https://goo.gl/photos/VtUBQZomiEcf2M7MA
https://goo.gl/photos/t7anEJL65vMMeUFq6
https://goo.gl/photos/hMajxVvE5M1vdj37A
https://goo.gl/photos/9bpv4MGpL7vAQEjw6

Skreemer fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Feb 1, 2017

Deeters
Aug 21, 2007


They also tried it in the 80s with the XR1000, with an engine closely derived from the XR750 race bike. That one didn't sell well either.


I'd be surprised if Harley tried making another race inspired bike while the trend could actually sell.

Skreemer
Jan 28, 2006
I like blue.
Oh yeah they took some "finesse" to get around the corners. Here's turn 2 at the Indy GP, first lap:

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester
Oct 3, 2000

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

DO 👏NOT👏GIVE👏CGI👏RENDERS👏ATTENTION👏
Seriously. Once upon a time a "concept" car or bike was an actual prototype, wasn't it? Now it's just an intern's photoshop.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Skreemer posted:

welcome to the Harley XR1200:
Regular street flavor:


Full one off race series version:


They raced as an also ran series during some of the AMA events and for 2 years during the Indianapolis MotoGP.

If you really wanted to a the time, you could have bought the bike from Harley, Bought the racing kit from Vance&Hines and then just ponied up the cash for entry if you had a racing license in the AMA.
all lovely photos below by yours truly at the Indianapolis MotoGP from 2012.
https://goo.gl/photos/fBzz2SK4cwwdZWB99
https://goo.gl/photos/RmtE4W6FRNDyAsTo9
https://goo.gl/photos/nCvYrjJfzLRKJewW7
https://goo.gl/photos/VtUBQZomiEcf2M7MA
https://goo.gl/photos/t7anEJL65vMMeUFq6
https://goo.gl/photos/hMajxVvE5M1vdj37A
https://goo.gl/photos/9bpv4MGpL7vAQEjw6

I like the XR1200 but a gussied-up sporster isn't remotely the same thing seeing as it weighs twice as much and isn't really in the spirit of what I'm talking about at all.

The XR1000 sold like poo poo because it was the 80's and there wasn't a booming hipster trend to cash in on nor a misguided sense of nostalgia for poo poo that never existed. Now is quite literally the perfect time, they have like a 5 year window to cash in before the next trend takes over.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:

Seriously. Once upon a time a "concept" car or bike was an actual prototype, wasn't it? Now it's just an intern's photoshop.

There are many different levels of "concept" used in design, ranging from pen-and-marker sketches up to working pre-production prototype. None of them are any better or worse than the others, they're just used at different stages in the design process.

Additionally, the design concept isn't the only prototype used in the process. There are engineering prototypes with various levels of fidelity, testing things like the powertrain and suspension, that are developed simultaneously with the external/aerodynamic/ergonomic design.

If that Lotus bike were being developed for real, that rendering would come in about the stage where the engineers have a rolling mockup of the bike's mechanical parts that doesn't look anything like the concept except in like wheelbase and general configuration, and the designers have a clear idea of the aesthetic they're going for but haven't yet optimized it around the hardware. This is about the time that they would start seriously going back-and-forth, adjusting a radiator angle here and a panel line there, to balance both teams' requirements.

The specific rendering we're talking about, of course, is not meant to be a production bike so the designer has a freer rein to do whatever they want. As a result it's actually a little more resolved than it should be, which is why it looks kind of "off". It's basically a design concept made hyper-realistic without all of the realistic engineering underneath -- like the uncanny valley of motorcycle design.

Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 06:07 on Feb 1, 2017

A MIRACLE
Sep 17, 2007

All right. It's Saturday night; I have no date, a two-liter bottle of Shasta and my all-Rush mix-tape... Let's rock.

Slavvy posted:

I like the XR1200 but a gussied-up sporster isn't remotely the same thing seeing as it weighs twice as much and isn't really in the spirit of what I'm talking about at all.

The XR1000 sold like poo poo because it was the 80's and there wasn't a booming hipster trend to cash in on nor a misguided sense of nostalgia for poo poo that never existed. Now is quite literally the perfect time, they have like a 5 year window to cash in before the next trend takes over.

I thought we decided the next trend was kicking rad 90s splash graphics on dual round headlight 600 and 750cc Japanese race replicas?

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass

Mods please change my name to Carburettor Hernia :rock:

But seriously, is it a perspective trick or are the carbs just hanging out to the side there?

Sagebrush posted:

The specific rendering we're talking about, of course, is not meant to be a production bike so the designer has a freer rein to do whatever they want.

Such as have the black plastic fairing under the foot controls reach back to perfectly wrap the swingarm, leaving it zero clearance to actually move up and down :psyduck:

I have no idea how I never noticed that one before.

Renaissance Robot fucked around with this message at 07:30 on Feb 1, 2017

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Safety Gull has give you your first and only warning about wearing a helmet

echomadman
Aug 24, 2004

Nap Ghost
An empirical study in gyroscopic stability
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ5hV-ESBd0

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass
*caster stability :can:

Nfcknblvbl
Jul 15, 2002

What is a kill switch? We may never know.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Nfcknblvbl posted:

What is a kill switch? We may never know.

Yeah, it was so stable the guy on the bike could've gently approached it and killed it. Instead he (Netwon's) thirded himself over, which is always hilarious.

JB50
Feb 13, 2008

Nfcknblvbl posted:

What is a kill switch? We may never know.

He says in the comments that the stunta bike didnt have a kill switch.

NorthernWheelies1 day ago
Maccaroney it was one of those panic moments, lol. the bike was not equipped with a kill switch and I've never turned the key on a sport bike before. also was terrified of being run over and cut up. just watching that rear wheel spin at the end makes me cringe thinking about falling on it!

JB50 fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Feb 2, 2017

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Why would you ever remove the kill switch

JB50
Feb 13, 2008

Sagebrush posted:

Why would you ever remove the kill switch

So you dont hit it by accident while youre "stuntin"

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


Sagebrush posted:

Why would you ever remove the kill switch

Probably so that you don't kick it accidentally while you're climbing all over the bars doing heel clicks or method airs or whatever it is stunters do.

builds character
Jan 16, 2008

Keep at it.
Not me, I just like the way he flings himself into the trees.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LccSmvnIaz8

GI Joe jobs
Jun 25, 2005

🎅🤜🤛👷
That almost got a lot worse for a moment there, good reflex.

`Nemesis
Dec 30, 2000

railroad graffiti
slight bends in the road are hard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvSiLzXynkU&t=21s

Coydog
Mar 5, 2007



Fallen Rib
That's a really bad "road", too. Why would you go tearing down it? Zero gear, too, because of course. LOL at that little jump the bike did.

funeral home DJ
Apr 21, 2003


Pillbug

Coydog posted:

That's a really bad "road", too. Why would you go tearing down it? Zero gear, too, because of course. LOL at that little jump the bike did.

Maybe he really wanted to off himself in a "cool" way but is a huge gently caress-up of a dude? :shrug:

Beach Bum
Jan 13, 2010
At least he was wearing a lid.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Winter in Wisconsin

echomadman
Aug 24, 2004

Nap Ghost

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012


Art.

Coydog
Mar 5, 2007



Fallen Rib
Look at this scrub who doesn't know how to adjust the length. That first hole would have worked just fine.

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

Coydog posted:

Look at this scrub who doesn't know how to adjust the length. That first hole would have worked just fine.

That's what she said.

Skreemer
Jan 28, 2006
I like blue.
KTM's videos on getting the new MotoGP bike ready:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQk6NrWOghc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mMMAh8x5jk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NX9qUE43NY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB2zSChJVws

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass
Anyone have that picture that got posted a ways back of the custom where the sprocket was also the brake disc?

I had the privilege of standing next to one in person this weekend, and I want to see if it was the same one (because the pictures I got were rubbish)

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.
Is this a crash? :can:

Slim Pickens
Jan 12, 2007

Grimey Drawer

Good to set shervin is still at it.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

stomp clap


Renaissance Robot posted:

Anyone have that picture that got posted a ways back of the custom where the sprocket was also the brake disc?

I had the privilege of standing next to one in person this weekend, and I want to see if it was the same one (because the pictures I got were rubbish)

Did it have a Swedish name, or maybe Finnish?

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester
Oct 3, 2000

Chichevache posted:

Is this a crash? :can:
Scratched the pipe. Disaster.

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass

HenryJLittlefinger posted:

Did it have a Swedish name, or maybe Finnish?

That sounds about right, yeah

captainOrbital
Jan 23, 2003

Wrathchild!
💢🧒

Chichevache posted:

Is this a crash? :can:

My back hurts just looking at that.

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Valt
May 14, 2006

Oh HELL yeah.
Ultra Carp

Renaissance Robot posted:

That sounds about right, yeah

Are you talking about a sprotor? Lots of companies make them.

http://www.lowbrowcustoms.com/drilled-sprocket-brake-kit-sprotor-black-caliper.html

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