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Varinn posted:Leninists, Guevarists, Bolsheviks and Trots Lassallists, Gonzaloites, Bordigasts, Titoists
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Nov 11, 2020 22:06
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Nov 11, 2020 22:28
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Lmao. https://twitter.com/AndreaChalupa/status/1326340707636965377?s=20
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Nov 12, 2020 01:27
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good lord
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Nov 12, 2020 01:55
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self care is the only truly revolutionary act once can do in these times. "treat yo'self, and VOTE!" - che guevara
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Nov 12, 2020 02:00
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Self caremad
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Nov 12, 2020 02:24
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Actually I posted it because the insane Ukrainian Russiagater recommended following an Avakian front group.
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Nov 12, 2020 03:18
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Bob Avakian is in France because the CIA isn't allowed to operate within the US lol: https://twitter.com/RefuseFascism/status/1326345691573198850?s=20
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Nov 12, 2020 03:23
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"buy a bath bomb and drink plenty of water", The Communist Manifesto, Carl Marks.
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Nov 12, 2020 04:05
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a lot of people are really freaked out and scared rn so I’m not sure saying “get enough sleep” is that bad. everything else is though
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Nov 12, 2020 04:39
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Gaslit Nation
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Nov 12, 2020 04:41
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I feel bad saying or asking this, but why are Western leftists so lazy? i.e the poo poo about don't ask me to read or work out or join an org or anything else productive because that's somehow elitist.
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Nov 12, 2020 04:47
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can someone explain something? why are trans anarchists so good looking? what makes them so smart? tia
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Nov 12, 2020 04:49
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ToxicAcne posted:I feel bad saying or asking this, but why are Western leftists so lazy? because they’re entitled OP
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Nov 12, 2020 04:50
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perhaps western leftists could use their superior purchasing power to employ third world leftists to do their work for them...like taskrabbit for revolution..
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Nov 12, 2020 04:53
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Atrocious Joe posted:Bob Avakian is in France because the CIA isn't allowed to operate within the US arent these the revcoms lol
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Nov 12, 2020 04:57
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GalacticAcid posted:perhaps western leftists could use their superior purchasing power to employ third world leftists to do their work for them...like taskrabbit for revolution.. genius
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Nov 12, 2020 04:57
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ToxicAcne posted:I feel bad saying or asking this, but why are Western leftists so lazy? Probably the ever-present pervasive fear that the most powerful law enforcement agencies in the world have a long, long history of silencing pro-left sentiments through black listing, propaganda, and murder.
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Nov 12, 2020 04:59
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:arent these the revcoms lol yes lol https://twitter.com/SunsaraTaylor/status/1326357419904135168
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Nov 12, 2020 05:04
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ToxicAcne posted:I feel bad saying or asking this, but why are Western leftists so lazy? you wanna get involved in the democratic or republican parties, you go down the street to their local HQ and they can plug you into campaigns. youll learn if nothing else how to phonebank and canvass. you want to get involved politically as a socialist where do you go? for me it started by talking to somebody several states away about politics for a few months, then years meeting people and being the lone member of my organization in my town until over time met others who wanted to join and recruited them. I at least had experience from democratic party campaigns id been a part of when i was younger so had some basic experience to draw from, knew how to table, how to talk to people, etc. but many dont even have that basic understanding of how to organize politically and have to be taught some of that basic stuff. point is to say theres a much higher hurdle to getting involved in socialist politics because were coming out of a period of time where the labor movement was at its nadir and there were few real cadre during that time to carry on the legacy of revolutionary politics. at the end of the day you need someone who is gonna manage an email spreadsheet of contacts and members, somebody who is gonna count money someone who is gonna set meeting agendas and find meeting spaces, all the boring menial tasks that are necessary to build an organization while at the same time having sharp enough politics to not fall into a routine an be able to adapt to changing situations. being even just a rank and file member of a socialist organization is so much more demanding than any other political work ive seen. basically the historical crisis of mankind is reduced to the crisis of the revolutionary leadership.
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Nov 12, 2020 05:29
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GalacticAcid posted:perhaps western leftists could use their superior purchasing power to employ third world leftists to do their work for them...like taskrabbit for revolution.. fiverr year plan
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Nov 12, 2020 06:06
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Probably the ever-present pervasive fear that the most powerful law enforcement agencies in the world have a long, long history of silencing pro-left sentiments through black listing, propaganda, and murder. apropos to nothing posted:you wanna get involved in the democratic or republican parties, you go down the street to their local HQ and they can plug you into campaigns. youll learn if nothing else how to phonebank and canvass. you want to get involved politically as a socialist where do you go? for me it started by talking to somebody several states away about politics for a few months, then years meeting people and being the lone member of my organization in my town until over time met others who wanted to join and recruited them. I at least had experience from democratic party campaigns id been a part of when i was younger so had some basic experience to draw from, knew how to table, how to talk to people, etc. but many dont even have that basic understanding of how to organize politically and have to be taught some of that basic stuff. sure but neither of these reasonable explanations really address the strong tendency among American leftists to dismiss poo poo like "read theory" and "learn a useful skill" and "maybe go for a walk every day" as elitist bullshit
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Nov 12, 2020 06:07
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Matt Zerella posted:fiverr year plan Lol
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Nov 12, 2020 06:19
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indigi posted:sure but neither of these reasonable explanations really address the strong tendency among American leftists to dismiss poo poo like "read theory" and "learn a useful skill" and "maybe go for a walk every day" as elitist bullshit cause sometimes the people saying it are just dumbasses. like the people saying go work out to be ready to fight fascists are ludicrous, there aint even a mass left party like a soc dem org but yet socialists are gonna lead street fights with white supremacists? complete disconnect between balance of forces and also they need to read on how to actually fight racism and fascism which is through mass labor orgs not street gangs and paramilitary units divorced from broader formations. tell somebody to read capital? i havent read it, never will, gently caress that book. most people ive met who have read it arent organizers but academics who are obsessed with what theyve read and not what theyve done. basically im sayin thats why people have a hard time getting organized. online people are whatever, theyre anything and everything all at once. so one minute somebody says "read theory" and i could be thinking "wow what a stupid piece of poo poo get bent" and next moment i could be telling somebody to go read something and they think the same about me. its contextual. not calling anyone out but like is the person who asked that a member of an organization or party? are you? is anyone? if youre not then any order to read, workout, and learn a skill isnt really useful to socialist political organizing and more just generally good life advice. im all for reading, walking, and learning new skills, but like half the time people telling others to do that stuff in regards to politics have no clue what theyre talking about either.
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Nov 12, 2020 06:32
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indigi posted:sure but neither of these reasonable explanations really address the strong tendency among American leftists to dismiss poo poo like "read theory" and "learn a useful skill" and "maybe go for a walk every day" as elitist bullshit if you have a cure for internet addiction I’m all ears, we all know this poo poo is useless and/or actively harmful but yet here we are Posting anyway
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Nov 12, 2020 06:33
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Centrist Committee posted:if you have a cure for internet addiction I’m all ears, we all know this poo poo is useless and/or actively harmful but yet here we are Posting anyway this. when i post its just stream of conscious bullshit or jokes cause its posting not serious or for real. so with that said heres some stream of consciousness bullshit: online sucks. all the people saying "a fascist worked out today. did you?" or other poo poo like that are like the last people you would wanna have with you in a irl fight lol. the people i know who are most militant about that poo poo are totally isolated from broader movements and also are weak as gently caress. they just larp being socialists. the people who post poo poo like "read more theory" usually just read their first book and now theyve realized that everyone must read That Book which is the only thing that matters, see maoists and that loving settlers book they wont shut up about and is their bible. the left is full of cranks and weirdos and it sucks. for all you know im one too.
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Nov 12, 2020 06:41
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I actually like "reading theory". My best advice is that you break up your reading into small, bite-sized pieces: take a book and read 10 pages of it, every day. If you feel like you're on a roll, go further, and once you're used to doing that, slowly increase the size - maybe aiming for one chapter a day if the chapter sizes are reasonable. The point is that by giving yourself a set point where you can put it and down and stop for now, it's less pressure to cram it all in your head. And if you do have trouble processing a particular section, then you take as much time as you need with it, since you're only aiming to do that one section anyway. I'd also like teaching people or telling people about what I've learned, if they don't want to read it themselves, but in the back of my mind I'm always a little anxious about coming off as preachy or pretentious.
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Nov 12, 2020 06:53
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are you a socialist if youre not a member of an org
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Nov 12, 2020 07:38
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revolution of one is my fav cod perk
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Nov 12, 2020 07:50
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drat well said aproposswimsuit posted:are you a socialist if youre not a member of an org idk but if you're not part of an org, maybe join one - not much to be done alone
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Nov 12, 2020 08:20
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reading theory kicks rear end. i got through capital vol 1 by just putting it on my phone and reading it on the train to work what's even better though is getting yourself a proper reading group. most socialist orgs do some kind of regular political education, and even though most of it happens on zoom nowadays it's still really good and has taught me a lot
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Nov 12, 2020 08:22
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personally I love reading and theory and poo poo like that but I'm not going to talk to any stranger on the internet and tell them to read whatever political viewpoint I'd recently gotten lodged in my skull - it's about the relationships, you talk to people for the purpose of establishing a connection so when the opportunity presents itself you slide a little theory into the convo on the dl and hey maybe you learn something yourself, too that's just the way I see it anyway
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Nov 12, 2020 08:23
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communism is a dream that's bigger than any one tendency or theorist, a mad hope in a cruel world. no book will give your the answers, only tips.
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Nov 12, 2020 09:25
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Jon Joe posted:personally I love reading and theory and poo poo like that but I'm not going to talk to any stranger on the internet and tell them to read whatever political viewpoint I'd recently gotten lodged in my skull - it's about the relationships, you talk to people for the purpose of establishing a connection so when the opportunity presents itself you slide a little theory into the convo on the dl and hey maybe you learn something yourself, too T-man posted:communism is a dream that's bigger than any one tendency or theorist, a mad hope in a cruel world. no book will give your the answers, only tips.
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Nov 12, 2020 09:27
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swimsuit posted:are you a socialist if youre not a member of an org imo, no. dont personally see much value in identifying as a socialist politically but not being active in organizing a working class political movement or party. to me it represents a fundamental misunderstanding of marxism at the most basic level
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Nov 12, 2020 14:00
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apropos to nothing posted:this. when i post its just stream of conscious bullshit or jokes cause its posting not serious or for real. so with that said heres some stream of consciousness bullshit: online sucks. all the people saying "a fascist worked out today. did you?" or other poo poo like that are like the last people you would wanna have with you in a irl fight lol. the people i know who are most militant about that poo poo are totally isolated from broader movements and also are weak as gently caress. they just larp being socialists. im going to go work out
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Nov 12, 2020 14:13
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as far as online goes it generally seems that the more hyperbolic and insanely someone posts the less likely they are to have any sort of actual organizing experience or accomplishments and i don't tend to take them very seriously
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Nov 12, 2020 14:15
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americans have especially high rates of stress, anxiety, and mental illness. i think that factors in too. this place is loving crazy
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Nov 12, 2020 14:26
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apropos to nothing posted:this. when i post its just stream of conscious bullshit or jokes cause its posting not serious or for real. so with that said heres some stream of consciousness bullshit: online sucks. all the people saying "a fascist worked out today. did you?" or other poo poo like that are like the last people you would wanna have with you in a irl fight lol. the people i know who are most militant about that poo poo are totally isolated from broader movements and also are weak as gently caress. they just larp being socialists. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jsoHonwQT8  
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