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Goo posted:I don't know anything about trackball group's plans since I sit in Gaming and focus only on what I'm doing 90% of the time. The answer, of course, is a gaming trackball!  Realistically, though, I've been using my Microsoft Trackball Explorer for over a decade, and I know the odds of anyone releasing a ball that equals or exceeds it are slim. Heck, I have a G700 that I tried to switch to, but now it's a backup for when the trackball inevitably dies. I guess I'm just posting to show solidarity with my finger trackball brethren.
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I just joined the G700s club for my work computer. Owns so many bones, especially for the giant scroll lists I need to do. Looks like poo poo though, sorry goo. Wasabi the J fucked around with this message at 05:24 on Mar 5, 2014 |
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Mar 5, 2014 05:22
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I got a Zowie ec1 evo and it's very nice and good, thanks mouse bois.
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Do any other G602 owners have issues with the track feet? I regularly get friction when moving the mouse around. At first I thought it was just gunk, so I've been cleaning it, I vacuumed and towelled down the whole of my desk and office. But upon closer inspection, it seems like the sharp edges on the tracking surface get frayed easily, and that's what's causing the friction. I try to just flatten them with a fingernail but it just keeps coming back. On the other hand, the cheap G400s I have at work has rounded feet and has yet to exhibit any such issue. Seems like a very stupid design oversight in an otherwise excellent wireless mouse. 
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Mar 5, 2014 17:17
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Wasabi the J posted:Looks like poo poo though, sorry goo. Jan posted:Do any other G602 owners have issues with the track feet? I regularly get friction when moving the mouse around. At first I thought it was just gunk, so I've been cleaning it, I vacuumed and towelled down the whole of my desk and office. But upon closer inspection, it seems like the sharp edges on the tracking surface get frayed easily, and that's what's causing the friction. I try to just flatten them with a fingernail but it just keeps coming back. On the other hand, the cheap G400s I have at work has rounded feet and has yet to exhibit any such issue.
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Mar 5, 2014 17:31
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I need some help goons: I have a rMBP 15" 2013. I have a Logitech G602 mouse, hooked into my computer by logitech's USB dongle thing, the 500Hz one. My mouse is getting some jitter. Randomly, it will "jump" about a half an inch or an inch or so (think like a YouTube video that loads really lovely, so it will freeze on a frame for a moment then jump back to where it's supposed to be). There doesn't seem to be any good reason why it does it, it seems random. I've tried swapping batteries, swapping USB ports, using and not using a mousepad, cleaning the sensor, installing (and not installing) drivers, AND it does it in Win7 on Boot Camp. I've also replaced the entire mouse with a new one and am still having the same problem. I've turned off Bluetooth to no avail. Can anyone think of any reason why this would be happening?
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Mar 6, 2014 01:32
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I get that from time to time when the lid is closed, but I haven't noticed it when the lid is open. I don't have that exact same mouse, though.
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Mar 6, 2014 02:22
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Jan posted:Do any other G602 owners have issues with the track feet? I regularly get friction when moving the mouse around. At first I thought it was just gunk, so I've been cleaning it, I vacuumed and towelled down the whole of my desk and office. But upon closer inspection, it seems like the sharp edges on the tracking surface get frayed easily, and that's what's causing the friction. I try to just flatten them with a fingernail but it just keeps coming back. On the other hand, the cheap G400s I have at work has rounded feet and has yet to exhibit any such issue. I haven't run into this problem at all yet. On what sort of surface is the mouse being used?
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Goo posted:Can you take a picture of this, please? I would like to have our engineering team investigate.  It's not currently dragging, and I don't have the best of cameras, but you can see the light playing on the corner of the topmost tracking surface, where I had to push it down to stop it from rubbing against my desk. The middle ones have also been particularly stubborn but haven't caused issues in a while. It seems like pushing the corners back down makes it stop for a bit. I mentioned the angular shape of the tracking feet because I've never had this issue with my workplace G400s nor six years of my former G7, and those happen to have round tracking feet. I suppose rounded feet could still end up fraying, but it seems less likely. PRADA SLUT posted:Can anyone think of any reason why this would be happening? At this point... It seems like you've ruled out everything but the computer itself. It seems like the kind of stuff that power saving measures might cause by suddenly deciding to power down USB or something, but I wouldn't have the faintest idea where to look at this in OS X. For what it's worth, I plugged in my 602 into my 2009 MacBook Pro and drew figure 8s for a while without seeing anything.
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Wowporn posted:I got a Zowie ec1 evo and it's very nice and good, thanks mouse bois.
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TheRationalRedditor posted:JAGHSEMASH. I have white and it's the dopest. I got black cause I wanted that nice rubber poo poo. Also loving the bright purple scroll wheel.
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Beyond how they look is there anything functionally wrong with the Cyborg RAT 5 and 7 mice? Secondary horizontal scroll wheel is my main draw as I do a lot of sideways window movement in Logic and having a dedicated control for this would be awesome, and the mice appear to be pretty solidly built with good reviews, but I have noticed the name to almost be a dirty word in this thread. Are there any other mice with the second wheel? All I have been able to find are older A3 style generic mice and other off-brand peripherals. Trackball with two wheels would be perfect but no-one seems to care about trackballs enough to make them.
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Mar 10, 2014 04:42
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Functionally they're okay. Have tracking issues on some surfaces but the same can be said about a lot of mice. Comfort-wise, however... they're really hit or miss depending on the person. I had a RAT9 and while I didn't dislike it or have any issues with it, I certainly wouldn't buy another. The secondary scroll wheel was probably my favourite feature on it though
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Mar 10, 2014 14:53
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FYI, the G602 just set off my pcpartpicker price alert. It's down to $45 on Amazon, so I'll be picking one up. Hasn't been under $60 in about 3 months.
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Quick note, the Cooler Master Storm Sentinel Advance II that I purchased on September 15, 2013 has had two major faults develop over the course of the last month: 1. The rubberized coating on the metal grille has more or less disintegrated, falling into the housing of the mouse itself where it's actually quite difficult to remove with just compressed air... But more importantly, 2. The scroll wheel has lost any tactile feedback at all, and furthermore has ceased entirely to function. What started as a very strong tactile response held up for approximately four months before it crapped out completely. Their RMA process is difficult. I strongly wish I'd gone with the Corsair mouse that I was considering at the time instead, as I have worked with them with cases, keyboards, and just generally have experienced top tier customer service from them. Coolermaster's customer service on the other hand puts pretty much every burden except for the replacement itself on the end user. I'll be responsible for shipping it to them, and I had to go rather far out of my way to find a means to upload an invoice to prove that I had in fact purchased it to avoid what was described over the phone as a "significant processing delay" based on serial number instead. My experience here basically just confirms what a lot of people probably rather intuitively grasp - that top-end Cooler Master mouse, which was not cheap, as mice go, is kind of a piece of poo poo. Granted: it has a good sensor, for a laser mouse. It has a really nice hand feel and weight distribution. That all matters less than the profound lack of durability, imo. If it doesn't hold up to relatively light use, no way it'd be a good choice for a more competitive gamer as it's marketed to. When I say relatively light use, I mean the following: I have been recovering from spine surgery so I haven't exactly been constantly parked in my computer chair, I have to spread any computer usage out over a significant amount of time, and I certainly haven't been putting it through the paces that a typical gamer would. Furthermore, I say that as somebody who used an MX-1000 for nearly the entire duration of its warranty period until it developed a multiple-click issue, and then used its Logitech-has-the-best-customer-service replacement, an MX Revolution (as Logitech had discontinued the former) for nearly four years before deciding I needed a corded mouse after Dogen sent me a Logitech G500 to try and I realized just how much latency and imprecision I had been dealing with previously. The same OEM that makes CoolerMaster mice makes Thermaltake's eSports mice, so I personally will be avoiding them all in the future. Just no time for the hassle of this. Glad I still have that old G500 on hand to use in the meantime, at least, but a mouse ought to be able to handle more than four months of light use without having poo poo start breaking down on it 
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Peanut3141 posted:FYI, the G602 just set off my pcpartpicker price alert. It's down to $45 on Amazon, so I'll be picking one up. Hasn't been under $60 in about 3 months. The G700s is also heavily discounted. At this price point, it's actually cheaper to ship from Amazon.com and pay import fees than to buy anywhere in Canada. Wonder if I should get a spare mouse... 
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Jan posted:The G700s is also heavily discounted. At this price point, it's actually cheaper to ship from Amazon.com and pay import fees than to buy anywhere in Canada. Wonder if I should get a spare mouse... I'm not sure I'd call 10% off heavily discounted, unless it's gone back up recently.
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Peanut3141 posted:I'm not sure I'd call 10% off heavily discounted, unless it's gone back up recently. Last week it was 75
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Wasabi the J posted:Last week it was 75 I should've learned my lesson on this, but apparently I haven't. Was only seeing the $90 price because the $50 Amazon price was backlogged. That is indeed the lowest price on the G700s in the last 3 months.
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I'm looking around for a mouse that will let me program in a macro that will let me hold down the mouse button to input left clicks at specific intervals. And let me store those macros internally on the mouse itself. Does such a mouse exist?
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IronSaber posted:I'm looking around for a mouse that will let me program in a macro that will let me hold down the mouse button to input left clicks at specific intervals. And let me store those macros internally on the mouse itself. Not without external software, no. With software, Logitech can do it that I know of.
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Jan posted:Not without external software, no. Do you happen to know of any specific models? I've been shopping around and haven't found one that matches my needs.
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IronSaber posted:I'm looking around for a mouse that will let me program in a macro that will let me hold down the mouse button to input left clicks at specific intervals. And let me store those macros internally on the mouse itself.
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IronSaber posted:Do you happen to know of any specific models? I've been shopping around and haven't found one that matches my needs. I know my G600 and G700s both do it; I don't use this feature, though, so I can't comment if the profiles for these stay on the mouse -- e.g. you set up the macro on computer A with the Logitech software, store the profile on the mouse, move it to computer B without the software and your macros still work.
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Wasabi the J posted:I know my G600 and G700s both do it; I don't use this feature, though, so I can't comment if the profiles for these stay on the mouse -- e.g. you set up the macro on computer A with the Logitech software, store the profile on the mouse, move it to computer B without the software and your macros still work. Thanks, I'll take a look at these and see what comes up.
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Wasabi the J posted:I know my G600 and G700s both do it; I don't use this feature, though, so I can't comment if the profiles for these stay on the mouse -- e.g. you set up the macro on computer A with the Logitech software, store the profile on the mouse, move it to computer B without the software and your macros still work. Are you sure this applies to macros and not just the on-board profiles? The latter is much more limited in the scope of things it can do. 
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Jan posted:Are you sure this applies to macros and not just the on-board profiles? The latter is much more limited in the scope of things it can do. I can't comment because I don't know; I do know that I don't need to install the software for a second computer to know what my mouse's hotkeys are. This is important to me because I don't have admin rights to my work computer; on the other hand I have never needed macros.
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G500s and 700s can do full-blown macros onboard, including insertion of mouse click events and adding delays between keystrokes, but does not support repeating macros as we want to provide maximum utility without extending into overtly facilitating cheating. G600/602 support only single keystrokes with modifier key(s). This is due to the capabilities of the microcontroller chosen for those products, and is not indicative of a global feature design decision for our gaming mice.
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Goo posted:G500s and 700s can do full-blown macros onboard, including insertion of mouse click events and adding delays between keystrokes, but does not support repeating macros as we want to provide maximum utility without extending into overtly facilitating cheating. Ah, that makes sense. I wasn't sure the decision of including a microcontroller to do all of that even would be considered. Though I am curious, by no repeating macros, you mean it wouldn't be possible to do the repeat Numpad0 key while pressed thing I screenshotted above?
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IronSaber posted:I'm looking around for a mouse that will let me program in a macro that will let me hold down the mouse button to input left clicks at specific intervals. And let me store those macros internally on the mouse itself. The Steelseries Sensei can store onboard profiles but whether these include the macros I don't know, I only have a Sensei Raw which doesn't have the feature. According to this review you can even program it sans software directly on the mouse. I don't find the software as bad as stated in the review but it YMMV, it's not great. edit:  You can't set up a repeating macro (probably for the reasons pointed out above) but you can set up a pretty long one.. I didn't hit the limit I just got bored. Changing all those timings by hand is going to make you want to kill yourself. comedy edit: you could repeat the whole operation on another button to hit the first button but set that delay to how long the first one takes to run, repeat until 
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Ugh, I have the worst luck. After just over a month of ownership my G602 scroll wheel button has stopped reliably clicking with normal force. It will click reliably if you mash it, but not sure what happened. Not even sure if this is a situation where warranty would be applicable or if I will just have to deal with it.
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Jan posted:Ah, that makes sense. I wasn't sure the decision of including a microcontroller to do all of that even would be considered. Though I am curious, by no repeating macros, you mean it wouldn't be possible to do the repeat Numpad0 key while pressed thing I screenshotted above? Dreyvas posted:Ugh, I have the worst luck. After just over a month of ownership my G602 scroll wheel button has stopped reliably clicking with normal force. It will click reliably if you mash it, but not sure what happened. Not even sure if this is a situation where warranty would be applicable or if I will just have to deal with it. Goo fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Mar 12, 2014 |
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My current mouse is approaching the end of its life, the scroll wheel has started to wobble a lot and the mouse is just generally disgusting after 6 years of use. I've been looking at the Zowie AM, since I made the bad choice when I was younger to use the mouse with my left hand, has anyone used it or know of other good comparable mice?
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I've had a Logitech G500 for awhile now, but I've notice that the right click doesn't seem to want to "hold" occasionally or acts strange, a short google search suggests it might be an issue with the spring. I'm not really sure what I should move to - I could just get another g500 because it's alright and fairly cheap, but I'm not totally in love with it either - in particular I've always found the scroll wheel awkward to click. What would be a good alternative to consider?
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I've used a Logitech MX500 and an MX518 so far and really liked them, except they're too small for my taste. I have pretty big hands and would like something at least 25% bigger (so at least around 16cm long). Are there any particularly big mice out there ? I'm right handed, it would need two thumb buttons, a "bumpy" scroll wheel, preferably be wired and without left/right buttons on the scroll wheel. Or am I better off trying to build some sort of case mod for my mouse ?
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An MX518 is too small for you? Wow...Maybe a Microsoft Wireless Mouse 7000, or something similar? They're discontinued, and have charging issues, but are large, comfortable, and lasted me around 2 years each (I had two) of daily use. Take a look at the Logitech G700 as well. It's a little larger than the MX518.
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I have large hands and am quite happy with the feel of my G700s. It's been a while since I had a MX510 but I do believe this is larger. It's not wired (though it does support wired operation while charging, albeit with a stiff cable that's a bit annoying) and it has four thumb buttons rather than the usual two. The G500s which I'm pretty sure shares the same basic case is wired with a normal flexible wire and has two thumb buttons though. Maybe Goo can confirm/deny on the 500 and 700's case similarity. On that note, any other G700/700s owners who have found any way to soften the OEM cable or a third party replacement microUSB that fits properly and is more flexible? Sometimes I kill the battery during a long gaming session and it's a lot harder to make rapid precise movements with the stiff charge cord dragging around. I have a few cords for phones that fit, but they're all pretty much equally stiff. I'd love something like a G5's cord. edit: Just after I posted this I noticed one I'd never tried, the charge cord coming off the "puck" that came with my G930 headset. It's quite flexible and seems to charge fine, though it appears to be a charge-only cord so the mouse still communicates with the computer wirelessly. That said, I've never noticed any "wireless lag" with this mouse either, so it's still a solution to the bigger part of the problem. edit2: I did sit around bending the bundled cable for a bit when I got it, but I'll try putting some more time in to it. wolrah fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Mar 13, 2014 |
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wolrah posted:I have large hands and am quite happy with the feel of my G700s. It's been a while since I had a MX510 but I do believe this is larger. It's not wired (though it does support wired operation while charging, albeit with a stiff cable that's a bit annoying) and it has four thumb buttons rather than the usual two. The G500s which I'm pretty sure shares the same basic case is wired with a normal flexible wire and has two thumb buttons though. Maybe Goo can confirm/deny on the 500 and 700's case similarity. It gets better with use, or just kind of bend and unbend it for a while.
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Just use whatever USB cellphone/camera charger you have lying around. They're all flexible and the microusb interface is secure enough that it won't just pop out. I gave up on the included cable a long time ago, it does get better but not really.
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wolrah posted:
I use what's referred to as a "tangle free" microusb cable. It's flat and flexible, very similar to a sata cable. Plugs right into the hub on my keyboard.
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