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Ensign Expendable posted:IS-1 (IS-85) Ooh, these please!
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Gnoman posted:Given the basic "Nazis with time machines" premise, the "flee with Nazi gold into the future" option is probably the best. Why even take the gold, just take the Swiss bank safe deposit key with you.
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”57th Fighter Group: First in the Blue by Carl Molesworth” posted:Benedict and Leaf viewed the combat zone as their own private shopping centre, with no cash required. One of their first acquisitions was an Italian SM.79 bomber in reasonably good condition that they liberated from newly captured Castel Benito airfield. With the help of several enlisted mechanics, they got the aeroplane airworthy and refuelled. Although neither pilot had flown a multi-engined aircraft before, they calmly fired up the three motors and flew the bomber back to their base at Darragh, where ground crewman quickly painted over its Italian markings with American stars. The ‘Green Goose’, as the aeroplane came to be known, ferried men, supplies and mail back and forth among desert bases for about a month. No doubt the ‘Goose’ served as the getaway aeroplane for several Benedict-Leaf capers before she had to be abandoned.
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Jun 16, 2018 17:12
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World Wars question: What did cargo ships carry on the return trip from Britain? I assume mail, veterans headed home to train new recruits, evacuated schoolchildren and the like, but was there anything being produced on the isles that was worth bringing back to N. America, or did they mostly sail in ballast? e: same question for the convoys returning from the USSR.
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Jun 16, 2018 18:31
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The ON and QP series of convoys are what to look for. I think they mostly were in ballast. I don't see why they would evacuate kids by these convoys - they are much safer where they are, than in the U boat infested North Atlantic.
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Jun 16, 2018 18:51
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They did evacuate some children to Canada and the rest of the Commonwealth but a liner full of them got torpedoed and after that the official policy was to not do that anymore, though there were still private overseas evacuations, mostly to Canada and the US. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evacuations_of_civilians_in_Britain_during_World_War_II#Overseas_Evacuation
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Jun 16, 2018 19:19
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MANime in the sheets posted:World Wars question: Sometimes just a bunch of debris. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey6JPPGgZl8
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Jun 16, 2018 19:22
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Ensign Expendable posted:First Soviet assault rifles Everything you post is awesome and I’d like to hear about these whenever you get to them.
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chitoryu12 posted:West Germany actually used the Uzi! They manufactured it under license as the MP2 and I've seen lots of surplus magazine pouches for sale. The MP2 are still in use with the Bundeswehr. At least they still where when I was in the Bundeswehr, ca. 2004-2006. The Lone Badger posted:(looks at last few years) Doesn't work, Putin was part of the KGB and I somehow think the KGB would have been able to spot a German Nazi suddenly showing up out of nowhere and trying to join. Now if Putin was one of the foreigners who got roped into those weird Anti-Soviet local formations the Nazis created during their invasion, that could work. As a Nazi Russian, he could have been able to trick other Russians into believing that he was a Communist. The Manchurian candidate, reversed
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Jun 16, 2018 20:10
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Libluini posted:The MP2 are still in use with the Bundeswehr. At least they still where when I was in the Bundeswehr, ca. 2004-2006. Wasn't there a lot of cooperation between the Stasi and the KGB, and significant numbers of ex-Nazis in the former?
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Fangz posted:Wasn't there a lot of cooperation between the Stasi and the KGB, and significant numbers of ex-Nazis in the former? i know there were a shitload of ex-nazis in the stasi but i don't know much about things that aren't the ddr, just things i picked up living in what used to be it
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Jun 16, 2018 20:20
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ChaseSP posted:I hope the ending is them getting plans only to find out they have no actual resources to set up the refineries/sabotaged by resistance. Yeah, the good guy is an SS man who learns the error of his ways and feeds Hitler false information about the future, fails at wiring the place to blow up, and then pops in to see Churchill and gives him the coordinates to bomb the time tunnel, accidentally also gets him to keep going againt the Soviets, gaining Churchill's trust by showing him the books Churchill wrote about the war (which Churchill refuses to keep, knowing that if he plagarized himself he'd get so lost in second-gueasing himself they'd never be published) So Americans are driving Russian cars in addition to Benzes and Toyotas because the Cold War never happened in the final version of the timeline when he escapes to 1988. Also the time machine goes live in 1944, at which point they were pretty hosed no matter what. Chillbro Baggins fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Jun 16, 2018 |
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Bad Angus! Bad!
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Fangz posted:Wasn't there a lot of cooperation between the Stasi and the KGB, and significant numbers of ex-Nazis in the former? Yeah, but the Stasi was destroyed together with the DDR, and whatever Nazi-remnants remain today would need money and help from Russia, so they're obviously not a source for time-travelling Manchurian candidates infiltrating Russia
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Seeking bow commentary:quote:The Japanese bow has two distinguishing characteristics: it is long with a length of over two meters, and it is shot by being gripped at a point below the center of the bow stave. In particular, the below-center grip is a unique feature of the Japanese bow. The earliest evidence for the use of this type of grip is found on a Yayoi-period (roughly fourth century BCE to third century CE) bronze bell (dataku now designated a National Treasure, that was reportedly excavated from Kagawa Prefecture. It shows a scene that depicts an archer aiming at a deer, and it appears that the archer is gripping the bow below the center of the stave. The earliest written evidence consists of a passage in the Weishu (A (a Chinese chronicle compiled before 297) that says that soldiers in the Japanese islands "use a wooden bow that is short below and long above." From as early as the third century, therefore, Japanese archers used the below-center grip.
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I didn't realize it'd been in use since so early, but I wonder what made them stick with it. During the Imjin War, the Japanese generally treated the Korean military with derision, but Korean archers were the one thing militarily that they conceded were markedly superior to their own. Koreans had been using the same sorts of mostly conventional composite bows since forever and the Japanese had plenty of exposure to them before, so I wonder what the advantages of the Japanese bow were that kept them from using those too. Unless it was a material issue or something? I actually have no idea how Koreans sourced the water buffalo horns they used in their bows either given that water buffalo went extinct on the peninsula way back in the first millennium or earlier. Eurasian nomads too for that matter; did they just trade for the horns from really far afield?
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I was always under the assumption that Japanese bows were held below the center to make them easier to shoot from horseback, but apparently not? I never would have guessed they'd been using that design for so long.
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Is the arrow also being held below the center or is it still on the centerline of the bow?
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Koramei posted:I didn't realize it'd been in use since so early, but I wonder what made them stick with it. During the Imjin War, the Japanese generally treated the Korean military with derision, but Korean archers were the one thing militarily that they conceded were markedly superior to their own. Koreans had been using the same sorts of mostly conventional composite bows since forever and the Japanese had plenty of exposure to them before, so I wonder what the advantages of the Japanese bow were that kept them from using those too. Unless it was a material issue or something? I actually have no idea how Koreans sourced the water buffalo horns they used in their bows either given that water buffalo went extinct on the peninsula way back in the first millennium or earlier. Eurasian nomads too for that matter; did they just trade for the horns from really far afield? I'm no expert on bows or water buffalo, but nomads on the Mongolian plateau herded yak in addition to sheep n camels n horses
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Fangz posted:Wasn't there a lot of cooperation between the Stasi and the KGB, and significant numbers of ex-Nazis in the former? Is there any literature (in French or English) on Stasi (de-)nazification? Especially concerning the HVA? I'd appreciate it.
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Comparing treaties related to Versailles, how do the 50 billion gold marks from the 'A' and 'B' bonds in WWI reparations compare to the 5 billion francs required for Franco-Prussian war reparations? The Fran-Prussian reparations were supposed to be proportional to the old Napoleonic reparations forced upon Prussia. Was their any symbolism to the the WWI value?
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Jun 17, 2018 01:32
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Koramei posted:Imjin War stuff Vaguely releated, wasn't the gap between Japanese and continental forces something early works in the west about the conflict kind of over exaggerated?
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Why did the 57th fighter group keep stealing planes, aside from it being a cool thing to do?
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JcDent posted:Why did the 57th fighter group keep stealing planes, aside from it being a cool thing to do? Flyboys. I imagine they all would, given the chance.
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Jun 17, 2018 05:09
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Like you would pass up the chance to steal an airplane if it was unguarded.
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Don Gato posted:I was always under the assumption that Japanese bows were held below the center to make them easier to shoot from horseback, but apparently not? I never would have guessed they'd been using that design for so long. Yeah that's what I thought too. I saw something on YouTube showing how folks try to keep the candle alive for the horseback archery and I thought that's what they were doing. The bows were made from smoked bamboo, which itself was very meticulously selected. I didn't look much further because YouTube has a way of going military history->hand-to-hand weapons->guns->the truth about the White Race.
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Rocko Bonaparte posted:Yeah that's what I thought too. I saw something on YouTube showing how folks try to keep the candle alive for the horseback archery and I thought that's what they were doing. The bows were made from smoked bamboo, which itself was very meticulously selected. I didn't look much further because YouTube has a way of going military history->hand-to-hand weapons->guns->the truth about the White Race.
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HEY GUNS posted:loving hell, all i do on youtube is watch folk music videos and it pushes "popular youtubers" on me. ugggggghhhhhhh i will watch one video about a vidya game or a movie review or something and all of a sudden my recommendations are full of "FEMINISTS DESTROYED STAR WARS" or "SJWs WANT TO HOLOCAUST GAMERS" youtube's algorithms are awful
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JcDent posted:Why did the 57th fighter group keep stealing planes, aside from it being a cool thing to do? Why would you need any other reason?
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Rocko Bonaparte posted:Yeah that's what I thought too. I saw something on YouTube showing how folks try to keep the candle alive for the horseback archery and I thought that's what they were doing. The bows were made from smoked bamboo, which itself was very meticulously selected. I didn't look much further because YouTube has a way of going military history->hand-to-hand weapons->guns->the truth about the White Race. HorrificExistence fucked around with this message at 07:10 on Jun 17, 2018 |
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The Algorithm also redirects children's cartoons into bizarre computer-generated torture porn featuring children's cartoon characters.
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HorrificExistence posted:It's totally an issue. I follow the Townsend, a really wholesome 18th century cooking channel, and I can get in two clicks from that to nazi videos about how Haiti was better off under the French. I even tried without any accounts or cookies, the algorithm directs anything relating to history to dark enlightenment. Okay I can get swords-guns-Nazis. I can get games-Nazis. I am not surprised about kid stuff getting all twisted. But how does this happen? Is it like, "You like 19th century French influences in cuisine. You know what else would have benefited from 19th century French influences? Haiti." I guess it makes sense that SkyNet is fascist.
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Rocko Bonaparte posted:I guess it makes sense that SkyNet is fascist. do you not remember Tay AI?
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So I currently live in Japan, and I've been going to castles and museums as I can on my days off. Yesterday I hit up Iwakuni, which had two milhist-relevant sites - Iwakuni Castle and the Iwakuni Museum of Art, which is basically a museum of military arms and art. I apologize in advance for poor photo quality, I only have my phone camera. The castle is a reconstruction (the original was torn down ca. 1613 due to the Kikkawa family supporting anti-Tokugawa factions), and it had some good weapons, including the biggest sword I've ever seen in real life. 197 cm long!  "Mutsu-no-Kami" forged by Fujiawa Kaneyasu in the mid-Edo period  The steps in forging a blade.   A few guns from the end of the Bakufu - the mark on the domestic firelock is not the Kikkawa family crest, but I couldn't recognize what else it might be.  A war commander's signal flag from the Art Museum.    Helmets! But the real treat at the art museum was on the 3rd floor, where a few folding screens were held. The most interesting of them were two screens that purported to show standard military formations for divisions. Considering most folding screens I've seen just show the actual battle part rather than the preparation part, I spent a lot of time looking these over. The older one is from the early 17th C, and shows the Takeda clan preparing for battle. It's almost certainly based on the Kōyō Gunkan, the military record of the Takeda clan which gives a detailed breakdown of the clan's manpower in various categories from 1573. What I found interesting was the prevalence of firearms - especially as most popular depictions of the Takeda have them as being slow to understand the impact of muskets on fighting, and that's why they lost to Nobunaga. I took a bunch of photos of it, and picked the least blurry of them out.  The other screen is from the late 18th, early 19th C, by Dozan Okano. It shows the plan for a mixed formation of about 500 spearmen, musketeers, horsemen, and retainers. What's interesting in this one is that the soldiers seem to be color-coded by weapon - dark green for gunners, orange spearmen - but there are a few I can't tell, like who the light blue are supposed to be. I also took a bunch of pictures of it. 
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The only thing Youtube recommends me is that shouty armchair medievalist on his goony throne.
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I watched a video about bronze weapons so YouTube kept recommending a video by a guy who calls himself Metatron ranting about how horrible it is that Achilles is portrayed by a black actor on Netflix
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Animal posted:I watched a video about bronze weapons so YouTube kept recommending a video by a guy who calls himself Metatron ranting about how horrible it is that Achilles is portrayed by a black actor on Netflix I'm all for verisimilitude, but as long as it's not a documentation claiming Achilles was black, that's stupid. Even reenactment is basically fiction, so it's completely irrelevant how someone looks who portrays whatever figure from history, in whatever medium. 
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MANime in the sheets posted:Flyboys. I imagine they all would, given the chance. You wouldn't download a plane
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Libluini posted:I'm all for verisimilitude, but as long as it's not a documentation claiming Achilles was black, that's stupid. Even reenactment is basically fiction, so it's completely irrelevant how someone looks who portrays whatever figure from history, in whatever medium. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-2oC0WKEMw Top comment.
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Everything about the Trojan War is fictional anyway except that there was a city known as Troy (well, Ilios) that got sacked at the end of the Bronze Age and the names (but not the characters) of Paris and Achilles are attested from the time period when the war supposedly happened. What I'm trying to say is they could cast a literal Martian (if any existed) as Achilles and it would be just as historically accurate as any other choice. The only possible reason to complain about Black Achilles is either because of racism or, at best, misguided anger at a weird fringe bunch of pseudo-historians who you've never heard of that claim Everyone In Classical Greece Was Black. Vincent Van Goatse fucked around with this message at 11:44 on Jun 17, 2018 |
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