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necrobobsledder posted:Was North America Intel's largest market for them by that far though? I thought part of the reason for the really terse, robotic names common among corporations had to do with international acceptance (some Chinese readers having trouble with certain letters / sound combinations, for example)? http://www.c-i-a.com/worldwideuseexec.htm Yeah. This report shows that the US represented about half the annual sales of PCs in 1995. Even among international sales, I'd be surprised if China represented a whole lot of that in 1995.
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I admit to not watching the laptop market but when did it become near impossible to configure your laptop. I would love a 13-14" Haswell i5+ with 16GB of ram and an SSD. Why is that so much to ask? In a perfect world, I'd want the above in a package delivered by Apple but I figure that Dell/HP/Toshiba/Lenovo should be able to check those boxes pretty easily. But Nope. Is this some sort of staggered roll out bullshit? What gives?
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# ? Aug 18, 2013 22:43 |
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Speak of the robot devil. They're an Ubuntu shop but I haven't found less lovely laptops anywhere even on paper. They have a more reasonably priced laptop in that form factor, with the rest of your options available, but it's get what you pay for territory. If you're wondering why it takes a Linux shop to deliver something like this, it's that no one really cares about laptops anymore beyond enterprise, enthusiasts, and Apple fans, and their Venn diagram isn't too far off of three separate circles. dont be mean to me fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Aug 18, 2013 |
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Sir Unimaginative posted:Speak of the robot devil. The Laptop Megathread would be the best place for laptop purchasing discussion.
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# ? Aug 18, 2013 23:11 |
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Fair enough, I'll bring it over there. It just looks to be Haswell related. I figured it might be some tomfoolery with contracts related to vendors not allowed to provide haswell in non-standard configurations as computers seem to be headed back to the appliance days rather than the customized tools they once were.
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# ? Aug 19, 2013 00:46 |
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Holy crap, 1080p matte IPS panel, GT3 gpu. I mean a little bigger than I'm looking for, but that thing looks freakin' awesome. I mean, it would look awesome if they ever actually managed to build it.
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# ? Aug 19, 2013 01:43 |
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Glad to see a laptop with Iris 5200, but.. a clickpad? Really? Give me buttons any day. If you're even trying to do casual gaming without a mouse, a clickpad is hopeless..
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# ? Aug 19, 2013 11:42 |
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Who plays games without a mouse? The real problem with it, and I suspect with 5200 in general, is the size. It's pushing 4 pounds, which is getting to mid range mobile discrete GPU territory. I think 5100 is the much more interesting part as a result, because it should be possible to get that into a 3 pound package.
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# ? Aug 19, 2013 14:17 |
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KennyG posted:Fair enough, but I would point out that few people compare a mac book air to OMGWTFBBQFPS gaming rig. Now explain Xeon naming to me. Why the gently caress is an E5-2470 so much better than an E5-2630?
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# ? Sep 1, 2013 01:33 |
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market generation line? 2 4 7 2 6 3 The line of the first one is much improved over the second even if it's an earlier generation. That's my guess.
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# ? Sep 1, 2013 01:40 |
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SRQ posted:market generation line? The 2630 launched Q1'12, while the 2470 launched Q2'12. http://ark.intel.com/products/family/59138 The 4603 is worse than either of the other two. Edit: The low end E7's are worse than the high end E5's. I give up. KillHour fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Sep 1, 2013 |
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KillHour posted:The 2630 launched Q1'12, while the 2470 launched Q2'12. 'worse'? You can't put more than two 2470s in a single server, but you can put four 4603s, with a total of 16 memory channels, or eight (or more) E7-8850s. Model numbers are about model lines, with differentiation based on features rather than clock speed. The first number reflects the maximum number of processors in a system. The 1 series usually has higher clock speeds and fewer cores, and looks pretty similar to consumer i7s. As you add sockets in a system, you see more cores (at lower clock rates), enterprise reliability features, more inter-processor bandwidth, more PCIe lanes. The second number indicates socket type. The 2400 has three memory channels per processor, the 2600 has four. The 2400 was designed to allow OEMs to use existing Westmere/Nehalem motherboard designs. As such, they're slightly cheaper than the 2600 series. The third and fourth numbers are for clock speed and cores. Generally, the higher the number the higher the overall performance (cores*clock.) There are some rules about what the fourth digit means (0,2,5,7, etc.); if you really care Wikipedia has that information. In addition, you can have a letter after the numbers to indicate a low or high power version. Are you confused when a BMW 135i is faster than a 528i? The only real inference you can make when comparing between families is that the larger number is more expensive.
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PCjr sidecar posted:'worse'?
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# ? Sep 2, 2013 21:21 |
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The Core i3-4130 (3.4 GHz 54W, $130) and -4130T (2.9 GHz 35W, $140) were quietly released today, both with HD4400 graphics, as were a pair of Haswell Pentiums - a 2.9 GHz model for $100 and a 2.6 GHz model for $70, both 54W. I don't see any reviews up yet, though.
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Factory Factory posted:The Core i3-4130 (3.4 GHz 54W, $130) and -4130T (2.9 GHz 35W, $140) were quietly released today, both with HD4400 graphics, as were a pair of Haswell Pentiums - a 2.9 GHz model for $100 and a 2.6 GHz model for $70, both 54W. I don't see any reviews up yet, though. As was the 4771, a locked 4770K with all the virtualization and TSX goodies.
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# ? Sep 2, 2013 23:22 |
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Is there any word on when or if a budget chipset solution is being released for the 1150 platform?
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# ? Sep 3, 2013 05:19 |
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Woodsy Owl posted:Is there any word on when or if a budget chipset solution is being released for the 1150 platform?
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# ? Sep 3, 2013 05:54 |
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Factory Factory posted:The Core i3-4130 (3.4 GHz 54W, $130) and -4130T (2.9 GHz 35W, $140) were quietly released today, both with HD4400 graphics, as were a pair of Haswell Pentiums - a 2.9 GHz model for $100 and a 2.6 GHz model for $70, both 54W. I don't see any reviews up yet, though. Perfect timing, I was just going to ask how these things are usually released. I was waiting on the cheaper Haswells for an HTPC I was working on. Do the manufacturers usually release a lot of lower tier parts to go with the new chips now that they are public, or is that more for new chipsets and what is out now is basically it for Haswell?
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SirBoobsALot posted:Perfect timing, I was just going to ask how these things are usually released. I was waiting on the cheaper Haswells for an HTPC I was working on. Do the manufacturers usually release a lot of lower tier parts to go with the new chips now that they are public, or is that more for new chipsets and what is out now is basically it for Haswell? I'm pretty sure that B85 and H81 are the low-end SKUs, with the difference between them being that H81 is B85 minus two PCH PCIe lanes, minus two USB 3.0 ports, and swapping two SATA 3 ports for SATA 2 (six total, four 3 Gbps on H81, four 6 Gbps on B85). H81 boards are already into the $55 range.
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# ? Sep 3, 2013 06:35 |
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Intel has released multi-core floating point benchmarks for their Baytrail tablet SoC: This processor has a 2.0W SDP, though that is not really comparable to TDP numbers (which are an Intel secret). Note that it is as fast clock-for-clock as the AMD Kabini (Jaguar), while probably using 1/4 to 1/3 the power. Alereon fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Sep 4, 2013 |
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Man, AMD is hosed if they can't even keep their very low budget processors competitive with Intel's offering. I'm guessing the Atoms will be replacing Intel's Celeron line?
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# ? Sep 4, 2013 21:12 |
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Yes, Celeron and even some Pentium processors will be based on Silvermont cores, with the Atom brand reserved for very low power applications. Also, in that same article I saw that power usage numbers for the Z3770 were previously announced, the SDP is 2.0W. No TDP is available, but it's probably in the ~<5W range.
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# ? Sep 4, 2013 22:42 |
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There any indication of when Silvermont tablets might show up?
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Alereon posted:Yes, Celeron and even some Pentium processors will be based on Silvermont cores, with the Atom brand reserved for very low power applications. gary oldmans diary fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Sep 5, 2013 |
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Factory Factory posted:as were a pair of Haswell Pentiums - a 2.9 GHz model for $100 and a 2.6 GHz model for $70, both 54W. I don't see any reviews up yet, though. The $100 Haswell Pentium is 3.3GHz and the $70 is 3.0GHz - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...h=1&srchInDesc= teagone fucked around with this message at 01:23 on Sep 5, 2013 |
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evilweasel posted:There any indication of when Silvermont tablets might show up? Toshiba just announced one. I'd imagine you'll start hearing about more of them as IDF is next week. http://vr-zone.com/articles/toshibas-first-windows-tablet-announced-ifa/55075.html#ixzz2e1lfPP5O quote:Toshiba unveiled its first Windows based tablet called the Encore at the IFA today. The 8-inch tablet will be available from November and will cost $330.
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Toast Museum posted:Something something ["subatomic" joke] On the quantum clock, a tick is indistinguishable from a tock.
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# ? Sep 10, 2013 20:26 |
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Ivy Bridge Xeon E5s and server-targeted Atoms are officially announced/available today.
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# ? Sep 10, 2013 20:26 |
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Is there anything besides the eetimes report saying Quark is x86 compatible? They're the only ones saying it, based on a "brief encounter after" the keynote. its killing me i don't know what's inside this thing
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# ? Sep 11, 2013 00:50 |
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AnandTech's snap judgment was that it's not x86, because Intel referred to it as an open architecture. Not only is x86 not that, but Intel's never described it that way, which suggests against it.
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Factory Factory posted:AnandTech's snap judgment was that it's not x86, because Intel referred to it as an open architecture. Not only is x86 not that, but Intel's never described it that way, which suggests against it. Edit: Actually, since that EETimes article says there's already a supported software stack from outside vendors there is no chance it is not x86. Bonus Edit: Oh, and the EETimes article even says that first bit at the top of page 2, I read good Alereon fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Sep 11, 2013 |
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Alereon posted:My under-informed theory is that it's the subset of x86 that predates the P5 architecture, which is not patent-encumbered and is thus truly "open." I think as long as you don't need >4GB of RAM or SIMD this should be enough. Oh man, a 486 based smart watch. 486 toaster.
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# ? Sep 11, 2013 01:58 |
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SRQ posted:Oh man, a 486 based smart watch. If you get the 486SX version it's not as good at bagels.
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# ? Sep 11, 2013 02:25 |
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Naffer posted:If you get the 486SX version it's not as good at bagels. You can buy a second toaster that will sit next to your previously-purchased toaster and toast bagels (and, when installed, disables the original toaster.)
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# ? Sep 11, 2013 04:11 |
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Anandtech has more benchmarks of the Intel Atom Z3770, including results under Android. Aside from some issues with thread scheduling its a solid 3X as fast as the previous generation, and the Intel HD Graphics is almost as fast as the Radeon integrated into AMD's low-power APUs. It's incredibly frustrating that AMD had over two years with no competition from Intel in the low-power space and did absolutely gently caress-all with it, and the first product Intel actually tried with knocked it so far out of the park that AMD will never be able to catch up.
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# ? Sep 12, 2013 01:28 |
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Apple is trying to get iOS apps to be 64 bit now, could this be related to Intel having better low power offerings? I don't see how but my brain finds patterns in dumb things, would this be competitive with the A7?
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Alereon posted:Anandtech has more benchmarks of the Intel Atom Z3770, including results under Android. Aside from some issues with thread scheduling its a solid 3X as fast as the previous generation, and the Intel HD Graphics is almost as fast as the Radeon integrated into AMD's low-power APUs. It's incredibly frustrating that AMD had over two years with no competition from Intel in the low-power space and did absolutely gently caress-all with it, and the first product Intel actually tried with knocked it so far out of the park that AMD will never be able to catch up. I'm honestly kind of amazed that AMD is still going at this point. They've been outmaneuvered so many times now that it's just sad. At least they have the consoles for the next few years.
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SRQ posted:Apple is trying to get iOS apps to be 64 bit now, could this be related to Intel having better low power offerings?
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Josh Lyman posted:I believe Intel's mobile chips are 32 bit, and besides, it's unlikely Apple will switch away from custom silicon. Remember, an iPhone 5 gives you a full day of usage with less than half the capacity of a AA battery. An alkaline AA battery holds 8100 joules. The iPhone 5 battery holds 19,260 joules (the 4s and 4 were 19,000 joules).
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