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Business Gorillas posted:unironically yelling about how DSA killed rosa The tankies killed spirdanova... makes you think, perhaps, trots and tankies are both stupid af
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Aug 7, 2017 02:42
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trot trot trotting along the bridge to socialism, three tankies came upon a big mean Cop
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Aug 7, 2017 02:57
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like trump, i will need a summary of the socialist infighting in a single page with bullet-point format with lots of pictures. essays with marxist jargon or tweet threads longer than (3) tweets won't do. thank you.
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Aug 7, 2017 03:04
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TomViolence posted:tbf I had my suspicions this might be the case until they voted to support BDS, which was good as hell now chapters are getting email death threats from zionists who are mad af
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Aug 7, 2017 03:09
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:like trump, i will need a summary of the socialist infighting in a single page with bullet-point format with lots of pictures. essays with marxist jargon or tweet threads longer than (3) tweets won't do. thank you. people sharing socialist memes on their facebooks are worried that a guy who worked with cops once is going to get them on a list they're already on
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Aug 7, 2017 03:09
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im more worried about people who arent internet memelords, aka most of the populace
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Aug 7, 2017 03:18
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gently caress. marry. t-rex posted:im more worried about people who arent internet memelords, aka most of the populace no not the police thing but the personalistic social thing. i've never listened to chapo
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Aug 7, 2017 03:32
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Yeah I know I've posted about this in the past but if you are serious about socialist politics that means engaging in actions that might be arrest-able like strikes, occupations, blocking traffic, etc. Even trying to organize workers at private companies can and has gotten union organizers and leftists arrested or removed by police. whatever your opinion about cops and their place in society, socialist organizing directly puts socialists in opposition to cops in some very key ways and as such they should not be included in socialist orgs that are serious about labor organizing and mass politics. doesnt mean you cant be friendly to them, doesnt mean you cant try to convince them of your ideas, but if you are planning actions like blocking traffic, occupying places, or planning strikes, these actions can lead to arrest and confrontation with police and allowing police into your org where they might take part in meetings or planning for such actions can and will compromise the action and the org. not saying the dude elected to yalls leadership is a cop cause it sounds like hes a labor organizers who has worked with police unions and has been arrested himself. But the fact that he was arrested participating in protest should be clear evidence of exactly why you want to be cautious about cops being in your orgs because you will potentially be facing arrests in your activities just like he did.
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Aug 7, 2017 03:33
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All cops are bastards and I guess demsocs up in here have a problem w that
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Aug 7, 2017 03:41
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Danny's people were pushing him very aggressively at the tables, in an hour various people from his group were at my chapters table multiple times. I feel with how specific he was in his work history otherwise, how he presented himself was dishonest and taking advantage of people's good faith. From my own research it looks like it was as recent as 2013/2014 that he was with them from a document titled and dated "12/20/13--13:41: Austin Travis County EMS Employee Association Recognizes CLEAT Employees for Support" , and he's referenced as a field rep for them in past documents. I don't think people should be dogpiling onto Texas chapters, they likely did not know at all, and while I think there should be increased vetting it isn't comradely to attack people who are likely feeling just as if not more betrayed.
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Aug 7, 2017 03:48
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If dude had been up front about it and denounced it etc. it'd be a diff story, but you don't hide that poo poo then run for national leadership, we're not the Dem party, that doesn't fly
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Aug 7, 2017 03:52
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Ace of Baes posted:If dude had been up front about it and denounced it etc. it'd be a diff story, but you don't hide that poo poo then run for national leadership, we're not the Dem party, that doesn't fly Very much how I feel.
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Aug 7, 2017 03:53
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no one is at fault except him and anyone who knew and didn't speak up, which we don't know who that is if anyone right now
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Aug 7, 2017 03:54
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the true test is if the dsa can come out of the "hilarious infighting" stage relatively intact
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Aug 7, 2017 03:59
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if you genuinely think that Danny is collecting lists of DSA members to staple to hoover's gravestone or whatever you have terminal Internet edgelord poisoning and need to log off post haste but he should not have run without disclosing his background and should step down
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Aug 7, 2017 04:05
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The fact that a cop or cop sympathizer got elected is being exploited by other groups already as yall being fake socialists Good jorb
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Aug 7, 2017 04:06
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Phi230 posted:The fact that a cop or cop sympathizer got elected is being exploited by other groups already as yall being fake socialists "gently caress the cops *immediately elects cop*" isn't the greatest look tbf
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Aug 7, 2017 04:07
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:he should not have run without disclosing his background and should step down
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Aug 7, 2017 04:08
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Only people who didn't go to the convention can be trusted to have not voted for a cop lol
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Aug 7, 2017 04:14
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:if you genuinely think that Danny is collecting lists of DSA members to staple to hoover's gravestone or whatever you have terminal Internet edgelord poisoning and need to log off post haste but he should not have run without disclosing his background and should step down also he's not a cop and unionizing is good ffs this thread loves talking about cops. only time it gets multi-hundred replies in a short time span Thug Lessons posted:Stop. This is madness. Instead of cops we should ban firefighters and EMS. I'll see myself out
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Aug 7, 2017 04:17
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unbutthurtable posted:Only people who didn't go to the convention can be trusted to have not voted for a cop lol being an inactivist pays off yet again
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Aug 7, 2017 04:21
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lol https://twitter.com/boringstein/status/894387188162592768
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Aug 7, 2017 04:23
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Yeah, that's the good poo poo
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Aug 7, 2017 04:34
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Won't anyone think of the last remaining white ethnostate.
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Aug 7, 2017 04:39
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From that linked tweet thread: https://twitter.com/msawatta/status/894391649576644609
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Aug 7, 2017 04:44
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https://twitter.com/Miss_Nitsch/status/894365232964960260 https://twitter.com/Miss_Nitsch/status/894393557263536129 https://twitter.com/Miss_Nitsch/status/894397231540969473
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Aug 7, 2017 04:46
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empireofcrime posted:https://twitter.com/Miss_Nitsch/status/894365232964960260 She's right. Look you need allies in the echelons of power.
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Aug 7, 2017 04:51
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https://twitter.com/Boringstein/status/894387188162592768 Bye felicia
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Aug 7, 2017 04:59
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keep austin weird
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Aug 7, 2017 05:00
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that dude should probably release a well written statement at the very least before tomorrow afternoon
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Aug 7, 2017 05:05
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Raskolnikov38 posted:that dude should probably release a well written statement at the very least before tomorrow afternoon Or just like resign
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Aug 7, 2017 05:07
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how did austin dsa think this was a good idea
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Aug 7, 2017 05:10
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Wow, so the linkedin was actually legit then. Honestly wouldn't have thought someone would have been that stupid. Too dumb to be an infiltrator, but not smart enough for a leadership position.
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Aug 7, 2017 05:13
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safely sodomized posted:how did austin dsa think this was a good idea safely sodomized posted:austin
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Aug 7, 2017 05:13
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safely sodomized posted:how did austin dsa think this was a good idea well he apparently founded them so lol
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Aug 7, 2017 05:14
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Phi230 posted:The fact that a cop or cop sympathizer got elected is being exploited by other groups already as yall being fake socialists tbf the only people that care about DSA being fake socialists already think we're anywhere on the spectrum of "angsty democrats" to "CIA plants" edit: 
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Aug 7, 2017 05:17
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we've also lost egg lake and jon chait, dsa is done for https://twitter.com/elilake/status/894338869113573376 https://twitter.com/jonathanchait/status/894351004845690880
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