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They're not really that expensive. Also the DQ9 save editor allows you to add arbitrary treasure maps to your inventory (For example, Silver Marsh of Bane Lv. 58, the lowest-level grotto to have a King Metal Slime only floor, is location 115 map no. 134 30804) and that really cuts down on the post-game tedium since the DLC bosses require a LOT of grinding.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I know many of you probably don't care about speedruns, but within four hours last night nescardinality broke his own DQ1 NES world record (down to 45 minutes), then broke it again down to 42:21, where it may sit for a while. Video doesn't want to play, refreshing the page crashed the browser.  The Phlegmatist posted:They're not really that expensive. Not sure if it was this map or a different one, but there were people making sure to trade that map to everyone they could at PAX Prime back when the game came out. I think on my flight home from PAX I gaimed more levels in 3-4 hours than I could have in dozens of hours at Slime Hill or some other dumb awful place. DQ9's postgame grind is utterly disgusting. And that's before you get in to the bullshit farming (and leveling) for legacy bosses.
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I don't like postgame grinds in any DQ game. They're never fun. Not even in the remakes of 3. I can appreciate a certain level of challenge, but when the "challenge" is to spend hours re-grinding the same 4 characters over and over again to maximize stats, that's not fun.
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I just finished dq6 ds (and 5 ds before it). Took me about four months to do both playing maybe three hours a week. I gave my thoughts on v earlier. Vi was extremely enjoyable but did get a bit confusing with all the world swapping. I cheated casino tokens early and cash right at the end game so I had mostly the best equipment for the final dungeon but was only around level 35 with second tier jobs, so the boss was pretty tough. Spending time grinding was not something I felt like doing with my limited play time (I play while using my elliptical machine 4-5 mornings a week. Try having a baby and a demanding job.) I used hero, carver, Amos and Milly until I got Lizzie and dumped Amos. Carvers double up skill is too good, and layer he became a paladin which gave him thin air which is also op. I played dq4 in 2008 so I think I'll play it again while waiting for the 3ds release of seven. What are opinions on the other ds games like monsters and joker?
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Hokuto posted:I don't like postgame grinds in any DQ game. They're never fun. Not even in the remakes of 3. I can appreciate a certain level of challenge, but when the "challenge" is to spend hours re-grinding the same 4 characters over and over again to maximize stats, that's not fun. Yeah, after the final boss I'm usually done. I prefer games that put the grinds before the final boss and then somehow make the boss still difficult. Last Remnant did something like that, if you did all the optional poo poo, you ended up with a pumped up version of the final boss that was difficult even with all the tools you'd collected. I wish more games did that.
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Jul 21, 2016 13:18
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Bigass Moth posted:What are opinions on the other ds games like monsters and joker? The best non-main DQ game is Rocket Slime.
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heroes is good and builder looks like the best poo poo ever but yeah rocket slime is current champion
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Jul 21, 2016 21:15
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did they ever make an english version of rocket slime's sequels? had naval combat and looked sweet as hell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvshfsw7FdI
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No, and after seeing that trailer, I am very sad about this fact.
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Bigass Moth posted:What are opinions on the other ds games like monsters and joker? Monsters 1 and 2 are awesome. The best part of the DQ games in my eyes always was the awesomely designed monsters and in both games you get not only classic series characters like Slime, Drakee, and Spooky, but also all new characters designed for the game like Beavern, Mudou, and Darck. Both games take a different approach to having procedurally generated areas. Monsters 1 is more Rogue like (ha ha!) with each Traveler's Gate being randomly generated so you get new maps every time you play, but the maps are all kind of plain looking and generic. The monsters in them never change either. In Monsters 2 you find Magic Keys that access randomly generated worlds that are always the same with the same monsters, but there are a lot of keys and two different cartridges with different monsters so if you have both games (and even better two Game Boy Colors with a link cable so you can get all of possible breeding combinations!) the fun takes a very long time to end! Since both games are very much like Pokemon you can even try challenge runs to keep the fun going forever! Seriously after playing Monsters I really can't get into the other games as much any more. I like them still, but I just want the pacing and story and characters and combat of those games. I guess I'm a terrible DQ fan. That and I still call it Dragon Warrior, damnit.
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Overemotional Robot posted:Yeah, apparently 7 is going to have some kind of streetpass thing. Years from now that'll be a thing of the past and people will be locked out of content again. It'd make sense to be able to streetpass immigrants for your budding town but nope there's some actual content/dungeons locked behind it lmao
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DQM Joker series isn't bad - though I definitely prefer the original DWM1/2, there's still a lot of space to get as spergy as you want with breeding and skills and stupid crap if you like to look at guides and if not the main game is mostly reasonably balanced and not unfun to play through. That said, the online multiplayer doesn't exist anymore and the postgame was kinda... lacking, honestly. I think they were really leaning on that because they got rid of all the cool random map generation stuff from the originals in favor of a couple wet farts worth of postgame story. Sure, harder fights, but nothing exceptional.
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Anyone got DQ4 for Android? Is it worth the $15 or should I just stick to the DS version? Any issues I should know about? I've heard that some of these DQ ports have had problems and haven't been well supported.
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1/2 are the only real "eh" ports and that's mainly due to aspect/stretching. I believe the phone port of 4 put Party Talk back in, so there's that.
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Yeah, it'll control as well as you can make a DS game work for phones (fairly well, but I'm not big on the whole phone gaming thing). Party chat justifies itself the instant Healie joins up. 
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Oh poo poo, they finally translated the party chat? Welp *click* that's an auto-buy.
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the joker games are so grindy.
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Fenrir posted:Anyone got DQ4 for Android? Is it worth the $15 or should I just stick to the DS version? Any issues I should know about? 4-6 are ports of the DS versions. I didn't have any issues with 4 when I played through it, other than using the touchpad to walk around can be slightly annoying, but it makes up for that with the convenience of being able to whip your phone out whenever you want to play for a few minutes. That said, I got them when they were on sale for 50% off sometime last year. So if you can stand to wait for a Square-Enix sale on Google Play, I'd say do that. Last Celebration posted:Yeah, it'll control as well as you can make a DS game work for phones (fairly well, but I'm not big on the whole phone gaming thing). Party chat justifies itself the instant Healie joins up. Are you supposed to be able to have him around any time beyond that one brief bit in Ragnar's chapter? The only place I remember seeing him after that was disguised as a guard or something a few chapters later or something. Which is weird to me considering how attached some people seem to be to him/it. raditts fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Jul 22, 2016 |
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raditts posted:Are you supposed to be able to have him around any time beyond that one brief bit in Ragnar's chapter? The only place I remember seeing him after that was disguised as a guard or something a few chapters later or something. Which is weird to me considering how attached some people seem to be to him/it. No, you only have Healie as a party member from the time you recruit him in the well until the end of Chapter 1. As you noted, he also makes a cameo appearance late in the game.
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Is the best way to play dq 1,2,3 the translated super famicom versions? Is there a best translation I should be aware of?
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I'm now on chapter 3 in DQ4 on my phone... and uh, I'm 37 so that's actually a very weird thing for me to even say. Nonsense aside, the game is exactly as I remember with the DS version, only with the party chat translated, which amounted to a ton of right from where you get Healie and I'm looking forward to seeing how it goes in later chapters.
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Bigass Moth posted:Is the best way to play dq 1,2,3 the translated super famicom versions? Is there a best translation I should be aware of? 1-3 on the phones have the standard team translating it, although it's worth mentioning that 1 and 2 readith like a parody of ye olden Dragon Warrior translations (in a good way).
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Bigass Moth posted:Is the best way to play dq 1,2,3 the translated super famicom versions? Is there a best translation I should be aware of? Last Celebration posted:1-3 on the phones have the standard team translating it, although it's worth mentioning that 1 and 2 readith like a parody of ye olden Dragon Warrior translations (in a good way). I did 1 & 2 recently the above way, but I haven't gotten to 3 yet and I've never played the touch versions of any of them. DQ1 is much, *much* less grindy and DQ2 is much better balanced than their respective NES iterations. I do wish that they hadn't fixed some of the gear duplication glitches that were in DW2 for the NES, but that game was so brutally unforgiving you almost needed them. The SF version is much more balanced without being trivialised.
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The mobile versions are the best available versions of 1 through 4, and they're identical to the much more expensive DS versions of 5 and 6.
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I think the GBC versions still give the iOS ports a run for their money.
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Bigass Moth posted:Is the best way to play dq 1,2,3 the translated super famicom versions? Is there a best translation I should be aware of? There's the mobile versions. I had a rom of the translated 1+2 and it was garbage so I'd say the mobile versions are better. Last Celebration posted:1-3 on the phones have the standard team translating it, although it's worth mentioning that 1 and 2 readith like a parody of ye olden Dragon Warrior translations (in a good way). But at least they translate it that way for a reason, as you find out when you get to the latter half of DQ3.
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raditts posted:I had a rom of the translated 1+2 and it was garbage so I'd say the mobile versions are better. I haven't played any of the mobile versions due mostly to my aversion to touch controls, but I played the translated rom of 1 & 2 myself quite recently and I thought that it was a perfectly adequate translation. I once played a French "translation" (note the inverted commas) of DQ1 that was utterly horrid, and given that English -> French is a much simpler task than Japanese -> English, that's saying something. I also played a French translated version of DWIII (NES rom hack) that was quite good, except that someone translated "Silver Shield" to what would be "Silver Necklace" in French, which I found quite amusing. On another note, has anyone pre-ordered DQVII from Amazon? I want to pre-order a physical copy for the sweet discount, but it's still showing the release date as 30 December even though the digital version is listed as 16 September. Given that we're only about six or seven weeks away from the release, you'd think that they would have their facts straight.
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JustJeff88 posted:I haven't played any of the mobile versions due mostly to my aversion to touch controls, but I played the translated rom of 1 & 2 myself quite recently and I thought that it was a perfectly adequate translation. I once played a French "translation" (note the inverted commas) of DQ1 that was utterly horrid, and given that English -> French is a much simpler task than Japanese -> English, that's saying something. I also played a French translated version of DWIII (NES rom hack) that was quite good, except that someone translated "Silver Shield" to what would be "Silver Necklace" in French, which I found quite amusing. They have 7 and 8 mixed up because roman numerals are hard.
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yeah, i think if i pre-order it'll be from target which at least has the right date listed.
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The NES DQ Randomizers apparently were updated at some point to include map randomization. I don't know when that happened, so if you guys already knew sorry about posting about it again, but I just found out about it.
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I don't know why, but the Android version of DQ8 is free through the Amazon App Store today.
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Nice, thanks for the heads-up!
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I tried all the steps, but for whatever reason it doesn't show up on the underground amazon app that you need. Oh well.
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Tae posted:I tried all the steps, but for whatever reason it doesn't show up on the underground amazon app that you need. Oh well. Use your phone's browser, hit the link he posted and it will work once you have the app installed, I'm downloading it right now. Thanks, DACK
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DACK delivers! Thanks for the heads up!  Haven't downloaded it yet because my nexus is low on power, but the purchase is made.
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That port has a noticeably low framerate on my Nexus 7 2013, which was cheap when it was new. Newer devices will probably have no problem, assuming you don't have any trouble with the Amazon app store itself.
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Bongo Bill posted:That port has a noticeably low framerate on my Nexus 7 2013, which was cheap when it was new. Newer devices will probably have no problem, assuming you don't have any trouble with the Amazon app store itself. I dunno the app has pretty crappy fps even on my 6s+ I think it's maybe in the low 20s at best. Honestly it for me it wasn't very playable.
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Bongo Bill posted:That port has a noticeably low framerate on my Nexus 7 2013, which was cheap when it was new. Newer devices will probably have no problem, assuming you don't have any trouble with the Amazon app store itself. Figured this would be the case, but I got it anyways. At least it'll be available when I have something better.
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Is anyone going to the Dragon Quest Museum? I want to go in early September, but I've never been to Japan before, am horrible with directions, and don't know many Kanji. If anyone in the area is interested, I can buy tickets to the museum for both of us in exchange for help finding my way around.
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Has there been any word about Builders heading to the west? It is definitely My poo poo and I'd probably buy a console over it.
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