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anglachel posted:I fully expect we will see the Shocklands return as a rare cycle. nah, they'll hold onto those to sell return to return to ravnica or some other set quote:The biggest part of this story is that they've established that planar travel by non planeswalkers is possible again. So long as it's not "organic matter". So artifact creatures could travel using Kaladesh tech, or weird oil........ all they established is that teleportation is possible on kaladesh, actually
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C-Euro posted:Just reprint Cavern period TIA 
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Aug 31, 2016 20:33
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anglachel posted:Cavern of Souls at Rare or Mythic is the real question? Snapcaster the Blue mythic, Lilly the Black one, Goyf as the Green One (again, maybe they will not reprint Goyf again), Goblin Guide as the Red Mythic, and Thalia as the White mythic? They've never upgraded a card to mythic from the mythic era that wasn't mythic before. Anything from Alara onward has either stayed its same rarity or been downgraded. I wouldn't be surprised to see Snapcaster and Thalia as normal rares, but something like Damnation would be mythic.
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Aug 31, 2016 20:50
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ThePeavstenator posted:Other than ensuring that the prices on these cards barely move, what does the limited print run do for WotC? People buy these boxes from stores and distributors way above MSRP so there's got to be money being left on the table for all the boxes not printed. For me, there's a lot that'd have to happen for me to go hard on MM3: multiple good reprints (Lili, Goyf, Snapcaster, Goblin Guide, lands some good staples like Thoughtseize, Path, etc), a MSRP on par with a normal set, and plenty to go around. I might buy up 3-4 boxes just for drafts and cracking. As it'll apparently be just another EMA. I'll buy one playset of Snapcaster and maybe a few lands and maybe draft it twice? WOTC probably assumes they'll make more on the latter strategy rather than the former of a more usual set.
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Soul Glo posted:For me, there's a lot that'd have to happen for me to go hard on MM3: multiple good reprints (Lili, Goyf, Snapcaster, Goblin Guide, lands some good staples like Thoughtseize, Path, etc), a MSRP on par with a normal set, and plenty to go around. I might buy up 3-4 boxes just for drafts and cracking. MSRP already listed at $9.99.
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Aug 31, 2016 21:05
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Angry Grimace posted:MSRP already listed at $9.99.  Yay for $35 Snapcasters and two draft nights at my LGS! 
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Aug 31, 2016 21:07
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anglachel posted:Cavern of Souls at Rare or Mythic is the real question? Snapcaster the Blue mythic, Lilly the Black one, Goyf as the Green One (again, maybe they will not reprint Goyf again), Goblin Guide as the Red Mythic, and Thalia as the White mythic? Lol if Thalia gets printed as a mythic. I can see the shocks getting printed or hopefully stuff like Horizon Canopy and Groove of the Burnwillows gets a reprint as well. Although Ink Moth Nexus is still on my won't reprint because it's too good for limited.
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I would rather have a Comet Storm than an Inkmoth Nexus in my limited deck by a fairly massive margin
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Aug 31, 2016 21:21
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Fish Of Doom posted:They've never upgraded a card to mythic from the mythic era that wasn't mythic before. Anything from Alara onward has either stayed its same rarity or been downgraded. I wouldn't be surprised to see Snapcaster and Thalia as normal rares, but something like Damnation would be mythic. Lol if you believe this means anything.
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Fish Of Doom posted:They've never upgraded a card to mythic from the mythic era that wasn't mythic before. Anything from Alara onward has either stayed its same rarity or been downgraded. I wouldn't be surprised to see Snapcaster and Thalia as normal rares, but something like Damnation would be mythic. Knight of the Reliquary
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Aug 31, 2016 21:24
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Elyv posted:all they established is that teleportation is possible on kaladesh, actually Except that they established it does so by sending matter through the place planewalkers go.
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Aug 31, 2016 21:25
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cheetah7071 posted:Knight of the Reliquary Knight of the Reliquary was a rare in Conflux and also a rare in Modern Masters 1.
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Angry Grimace posted:Knight of the Reliquary was a rare in Conflux and also a rare in Modern Masters 1. It was a mythic in Knights vs Dragons
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cheetah7071 posted:It was a mythic in Knights vs Dragons What exactly is the point of a mythic in a product like that?
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cheetah7071 posted:It was a mythic in Knights vs Dragons Rarity designation in pre-constructed products is meaningless.
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Aug 31, 2016 21:35
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Thisuck posted:Groove of the Burnwillows Make it happen WOTC
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Aug 31, 2016 21:37
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If I have an ezuri and a bunch of elves out on my upkeep while my opponent has an elesh norn in play (let's say I activated ezuri last turn in response), can I pump them before they die? I'm thinking no but not 100% sure. I was playing elves vs. gifts ungiven at my last FNM, the situation didn't come up but it got me thinking.
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They would already have died at the end of the previous turn when Ezuri's until end of turn ability wears off.
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My dream cycle of rare land reprints is the Future Sight cycle of rare lands and the Zendikar fetchlands. Add Cavern of Souls, Inkmoth Nexus, and Mana Confluence and I'm set. The only one I actually expect them to reprint is Mana Confluence.
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Star Man posted:My dream cycle of rare land reprints is the Future Sight cycle of rare lands and the Zendikar fetchlands. Add Cavern of Souls, Inkmoth Nexus, and Mana Confluence and I'm set. The filter lands could use a reprint...
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Aug 31, 2016 21:43
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Angry Grimace posted:Rarity designation in pre-constructed products is meaningless. Pauper enthusiasts disagree.
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Aug 31, 2016 21:57
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Star Man posted:The only one I actually expect them to reprint is Mana Confluence. The reprint window for MM17 only goes up to M14/RTR block, so Theros isn't included.
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Aug 31, 2016 21:58
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Elyv posted:
I skimmed the story. The Planeswalker notices her friend's invention messes with the aether just like actual planeswalking and has a panic attack over it, so it's not just the usual teleportation.
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Aug 31, 2016 22:10
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Hellsau posted:Pauper enthusiasts disagree. Is there a mythic-only version of pauper? What sort of decks could you make in it?
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Dr. Stab posted:Is there a mythic-only version of pauper? What sort of decks could you make in it? Naw sometimes the supplemental products will reduce a rarity, like Forked Bolt is printed as a common in Zendikar vs. Eldrazi. Mythic-Only would be basically mono-red and nothing else, because Goblin Guide is real good.
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Aug 31, 2016 22:20
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Hellsau posted:Naw sometimes the supplemental products will reduce a rarity, like Forked Bolt is printed as a common in Zendikar vs. Eldrazi. Mythic-Only would be basically mono-red and nothing else, because Goblin Guide is real good. I don't think mythic-only has the critical mass to make mono-red good. I think some sort of super friends will inevitably be best, because such a large percentage of the cardpool is planeswalkers.
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https://twitter.com/OwenTweetenwald/status/771096335059517441
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cheetah7071 posted:I don't think mythic-only has the critical mass to make mono-red good. I think some sort of super friends will inevitably be best, because such a large percentage of the cardpool is planeswalkers. There are some great red 2-mana creatures at mythic, in addition to Goblin Guide and Dragonmaster Outcast. I guess it depends on what you're counting as "mythic". If you count expeditions, you get mana fixing lands, but you also include Strip Mine and Wasteland which, if available, would make mono-Red way too good. Do you count From the Vaults? Vintage Masters or other online-only sets? If you do, you can make a mono-black Planeswalkers deck with both 3-mana Lilianas, Sorin, Bitterblossom, Demonic Tutor, and (hilariously) Chainer's Edict, all of this accelerated by Chrome Mox and/or Mox Diamond. This sounds way less good than Pauper, to be honest. Ban Drake, ban Delver. drat, Owen's already making preparations to help LSV celebrate a Worlds win.
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I'm confused. When was Goblin Guide at mythic?
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Hellsau posted:There are some great red 2-mana creatures at mythic, in addition to Goblin Guide and Dragonmaster Outcast. I guess it depends on what you're counting as "mythic". If you count expeditions, you get mana fixing lands, but you also include Strip Mine and Wasteland which, if available, would make mono-Red way too good. Do you count From the Vaults? Vintage Masters or other online-only sets? If you do, you can make a mono-black Planeswalkers deck with both 3-mana Lilianas, Sorin, Bitterblossom, Demonic Tutor, and (hilariously) Chainer's Edict, all of this accelerated by Chrome Mox and/or Mox Diamond. I'd personally allow anything that has had an orange expansion symbol in any printing, so expeditions and from the vaults are fine. Vintage Masters is fine if you're playing online, but power nine got a special expansion symbol indicating their higher rarity, unlike expeditions. It's almost certainly an extremely bad format of course.
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Is it better or worse than edh
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Hellsau posted:Pauper enthusiasts disagree. Where's the format that you can only play cards printed at mythic rarity
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cheetah7071 posted:I'd personally allow anything that has had an orange expansion symbol in any printing, so expeditions and from the vaults are fine. Vintage Masters is fine if you're playing online, but power nine got a special expansion symbol indicating their higher rarity, unlike expeditions. okay nevermind, almost the entirety of the classic Necro deck is printed at Mythic - Dark/Cabal Rituals, Necro, Ivory Tower and Zuran Orb, Demonic Tutor, Vampiric Tutor, Strip Mine/Wasteland, Hymn, plus Yawgmoth's Will and Bargain, Planeswalkers, Chrome Mox and Mox Diamond, Unmask, Chainer's Edicts, etc. The only thing missing is Drain Life - you'd have to use Kalitas, or go deep with Kokusho + Recurring Nightmare, or Demonic Pact + Descent into Madness. actually wait Time Vault is a mythic, let's just do Time Vault + Tezzeret fueled by Moxen and Sol Ring and Mana Crypt. Okay this thought experiment is boring now.
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Regarding Damnation, at this point surely they just have to reprint it in a silver-bordered product. The reaction would be amazing to behold.
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dragon enthusiast posted:Where's the format that you can only play cards printed at mythic rarity Standard.
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Hellsau posted:okay nevermind, almost the entirety of the classic Necro deck is printed at Mythic - Dark/Cabal Rituals, Necro, Ivory Tower and Zuran Orb, Demonic Tutor, Vampiric Tutor, Strip Mine/Wasteland, Hymn, plus Yawgmoth's Will and Bargain, Planeswalkers, Chrome Mox and Mox Diamond, Unmask, Chainer's Edicts, etc. The only thing missing is Drain Life - you'd have to use Kalitas, or go deep with Kokusho + Recurring Nightmare, or Demonic Pact + Descent into Madness. I think to make this "legit" you would have to discount promos and non-set supplements like ftvs... idk if that would include commander sets or not. Probably online printings too because of power? Idk
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Death Bot posted:I think to make this "legit" you would have to discount promos and non-set supplements like ftvs... idk if that would include commander sets or not. Probably online printings too because of power? Idk Probably best to just stick with all the main expansions since Shards of Alara, plus the Core Sets. FTVs, Expeditions, the online-only sets, all of them have ludicrous cards, and if you're discounting Vintage Masters, probably have to throw out the Modern and Eternal Masters sets too to be consistent.
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Fish Of Doom posted:They've never upgraded a card to mythic from the mythic era that wasn't mythic before. Anything from Alara onward has either stayed its same rarity or been downgraded. I wouldn't be surprised to see Snapcaster and Thalia as normal rares, but something like Damnation would be mythic. Various Expeditions were rares before becoming mythics. Living Death, Survival of the Fittest, and Recurring Nightmare were rare in Vintage Masters and mythic rare in Tempest Remastered. Both of those sets have mythics before someone notices I named Tempest block cards. A couple of cards were rare in (post-Shards) precons and became mythics in normal sets. Hydra Omnivore and Mirari's Wake, for example. Move your goalposts accordingly.
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They have yet to reprint a desired land cycle in anything other than Standard, so I don't know why they'd start now.
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