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PT6A: Jan 5, 2006; Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Baronjutter posted:

What the gently caress restaurant doesn't have a bunch of good vegan options.

...lots of them? Vegetarian options are easy to find in most any restaurant, but true vegan options can be a lot more difficult to find in a restaurant that doesn't specialize in them.

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TheKingofSprings: Oct 9, 2012

My sister in law refused some vegan spring rolls my sister made for her after going all over the city to get the ingredients for at Christmas because "she could taste chicken", in spite of no chicken stock being used.

Well that's my vegan story thanks for reading

# ? Mar 20, 2017 21:46

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

Debating is overrated and never leads anywhere tbh. Did Ken Ham stop being creationist after Bill Nye ABSOLUTELY DESTROYED him in debate? Did anybody?

# ? Mar 20, 2017 21:47

Agnosticnixie: Jan 6, 2015

THC posted:

Debating is overrated and never leads anywhere good tbh. Did Ken Ham stop being creationist after Bill Nye ABSOLUTELY DESTROYED him in debate?

Of course not, but in this case Peterson has been purposely avoiding doing it against someone anywhere near his level. Whether he's self-aware enough to realize he'd be out of his league against another psychologist (and his opinion is nowhere near the dominant one in academia at this point), or, hell, just about anyone who's not fresh out of HS is another question. It's pathetic either way.

# ? Mar 20, 2017 21:50

Baronjutter: Dec 31, 2007; "Tiny Trains"

PT6A posted:

...lots of them? Vegetarian options are easy to find in most any restaurant, but true vegan options can be a lot more difficult to find in a restaurant that doesn't specialize in them.

It's pretty rare in Victoria for there not to be something, it's a really easy city to be vegan in so the vegans here tend to be pretty chill. Like an atheist in the bible belt is probably going to be really vocal and annoying about it vs one here where it's almost the assumed default so people don't have chips on their shoulders about it. Or that's my theory anyways.

I think that to some degree explains the whole vibrantvictoria community thing, it's where all the libertarian/right in a very left wing government city have concentrated them selves in and developed this massive persecution complex.

# ? Mar 20, 2017 21:50

mojo1701a: Oct 9, 2008; Oh, yeah. Loud and clear. Emphasis on LOUD!
~ David Lee Roth

Arivia posted:

It's not uncommon for professors and their works to be a flashpoint for a cultural movement. Think of Andrea Dworkin or Kinsey, for example. What's different in Peterson's case is that he's whole-heartedly goosing it and using it for promotion, which is making him far more noticeable. (It's a lot different to read the Kinsey Report than attend Kinsey's speaking tour.)

Oh I've no doubt he's milking the self-promotion, but is he doing any actual research into it, or is it just, "I don't want to be 'forced' to call a transgender man 'he', and telling me I shouldn't be a prick is repression!"?

# ? Mar 20, 2017 21:55

Ernest Hemingway: Dec 4, 2009

I'm vegetarian but I have a vegan friend who came to dinner the other night. I found a great moussaka recipe that used a cream sauce made of soft tofu and pine nuts instead of dairy and while it took a bit of effort, it turned out really well and she and my other friend (who is a regular old meat eater) really enjoyed it and we had a good time catching up over all the wine they brought.

The issue of who was/wasn't vegan or why anyone should or shouldn't eat meat didn't come up once because everyone there was a mature and reasonable adult and not an insufferable moron.

# ? Mar 20, 2017 21:59

Arivia: Mar 17, 2011

mojo1701a posted:

Oh I've no doubt he's milking the self-promotion, but is he doing any actual research into it, or is it just, "I don't want to be 'forced' to call a transgender man 'he', and telling me I shouldn't be a prick is repression!"?

Oh, no, no actual research. Just running his mouth. From discussing him in this thread in the past, he seems to pride himself on being contrarian in that pissant privileged white cis man kind of way.

# ? Mar 20, 2017 21:59

Skippy Granola: Sep 3, 2011; It's not what it looks like.

Ernest Hemingway posted:

I'm vegetarian but I have a vegan friend who came to dinner the other night. I found a great moussaka recipe that used a cream sauce made of soft tofu and pine nuts instead of dairy and while it took a bit of effort, it turned out really well and she and my other friend (who is a regular old meat eater) really enjoyed it and we had a good time catching up over all the wine they brought.

The issue of who was/wasn't vegan or why anyone should or shouldn't eat meat didn't come up once because everyone there was a mature and reasonable adult and not an insufferable moron.

However the real issue is why anyone should care what you ate for dinner last night.

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Agnosticnixie: Jan 6, 2015

mojo1701a posted:

Oh I've no doubt he's milking the self-promotion, but is he doing any actual research into it, or is it just, "I don't want to be 'forced' to call a transgender man 'he', and telling me I shouldn't be a prick is repression!"?

He's not doing any research into it, he's completely outclassed by just about any expert in the field, and the most he's managed to do is rile up a few neckbeards in IT and frosh activists.

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littleorv: Jan 29, 2011

reads thread

The gently caress was this?

Anyways getting postcards from Costa RIca from Brian Pallister. What a great time to be alive.

# ? Mar 20, 2017 22:03

namaste friends: Sep 18, 2004; by Smythe

Veganism or vegetarianism is just mental illness.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthorexia_nervosa

In other words you're a bunch of loving babies

# ? Mar 20, 2017 22:06

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

littleorv posted:

reads thread

The gently caress was this?

Anyways getting postcards from Costa RIca from Brian Pallister. What a great time to be alive.

Pallister is now going to bankrupt Manitoba by fighting legal battles with unions over 1% in pay increases.

# ? Mar 20, 2017 22:14

littleorv: Jan 29, 2011

DariusLikewise posted:

Pallister is now going to bankrupt Manitoba by fighting legal battles with unions over 1% in pay increases.

I had to listen to that guy speak at my high school grad ceremony 5 years ago and I realized I hated that loving guy.

Now he is the Premier. Such is life.

# ? Mar 20, 2017 22:17

mojo1701a: Oct 9, 2008; Oh, yeah. Loud and clear. Emphasis on LOUD!
~ David Lee Roth

Agnosticnixie posted:

He's not doing any research into it, he's completely outclassed by just about any expert in the field, and the most he's managed to do is rile up a few neckbeards in IT and frosh activists.

I'm not surprised. Every supposed "rational" defence of him that I've heard basically comes from someone who is ambivalent on civil rights but will raise hell (relatively) when a white man is threatened. Like PUA supporters who can't seem to not treat women as objects.

# ? Mar 20, 2017 22:37

unlimited shrimp: Aug 30, 2008

Why would he do any research into it when his point is about positive and negative rights, and specifically the difference between being prohibited from using certain terms versus being compelled to use certain terms (e.g. non-conforming pronouns). He could wholly embrace the idea of a gender spectrum and maintain his free speech argument without it being a contradiction. I also don't think there's any evidence he's declined or avoided debates with experts, which is to say nothing about the unlikelihood of that debate being able to take place in the present climate (with McMaster being a prime example).

e.
Like the only "it" he ought to be investigating, if he's concerned about the validity of his argument, is if compelling as opposed to restricting speech actually is a net detriment to society, or if his position is just the fearmongering of a Red Scaredy-cat Solzhenitsyn fanboy.

unlimited shrimp fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Mar 20, 2017

# ? Mar 20, 2017 23:24

The Dark One: Aug 19, 2005; I'm your friend and I'm not going to just stand by and let you do this!

Hah, even the church that committed the Residential School atrocities is more contrite on the subject than Beyak.

cbc.ca posted:

The church leaders note children were forcibly removed from their homes, subjected to exacting punishment for speaking their native tongues and were subjected to "rampant" physical, sexual and mental abuse. "There was nothing good about children going missing and no report being filed. There was nothing good about burying children in unmarked graves far from their ancestral homes. It heaped cruelty upon cruelty for the child taken and the parent left behind," they wrote. [...] "Conditions in these schools led to fires, to outbreaks of diphtheria, to gas leaks. Children died. We cannot speak about the residential schools without acknowledging these truths. To do so would once more silence the witness of thousands of children � some of whom never returned home," the leaders write in response to the senator's assertions.

# ? Mar 21, 2017 00:06

Helsing: Aug 23, 2003; DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU JOE BIDEN

I came across a widely viewed lecture by Peterson years ago called "Reality and the Sacred" and thought it was a pretty good pop intro to comparative mythology. It was really weird hearing the guys name coming up years later and learning he was suddenly a controversial figure. I would go as far as to say that I was initially prepared to be sympathetic to his arguments since there are certainly examples of academic leftism that are worthy of being lampooned.

But everything I've read by Peterson makes him seem like a nutcase. Since I started looking into his arguments I've mostly seen him repeatedly invoked the idea of "cultural Marxism". Cultural Marxism, or cultural Bolshevism as it was once known, is literally a Nazi idea that argues that abstract art or any kind of academic criticism of traditional values and structures is a pernicious Jewish plot to destroy the cultural vitality of the nation.

Jordan wants to maintain some degree of academic credibility so he's careful to do two things. First he couches his terms a bit more than usual, so in most interviews I've read he talks in a way that doesn't commit him to the belief that cultural Marxism is a vast conspiracy (though he heavily implies this):

quote:

Q: In a National Post op-ed you wrote that �words like zhe/zher are the vanguards of a radical left wing ideology that�s frighteningly similar to Marxism�. Can you elaborate?

Peterson: Assigned identity is oppression. Assigned identity is the identity that�s assigned to you by the power structure � the patriarchy. The only reason the patriarchy assigns you a status is to oppress you. And so the language that frees you from that status is revolutionary language. So, as an example of revolutionary language, we�re going to blow out the gender identity categories, because the concept of woman is oppressive. The anti-patriarchy philosophy is predicated on the idea that all social structures are oppressive, and not much more than that. Then to assault the structure is to question its categorical schemes at every possible level of analysis. And the most fundamental one that the anti-patriarchy radicals have come up with is gender. It�s a piece of identity that children usually pick up on around two � it�s pretty fundamental. You could argue that there isn�t anything more fundamental. Though, I don�t know of anything that�s more fundamental, more basic, and that would have been regarded as more unquestionable, even five years ago.

Ok, that's a reasonable position to debate. He's not wrong that you can identify some people in the academy for whom that's not entirely inaccurate definition, though it's bizarre that he would state that anyone who adheres to any variation of social constructionist theories is denying material reality.

In other cases he'll hint at really crazy positions but conceal them in a fog of tangents. Here's an example from the same interview:

quote:

Q: Do you see any parallels between this issue and some of the other �social justice� causes that have come up in the past few years, like Black Lives Matter or IdleNoMore?

Peterson: It�s all part and parcel of the same thing. There�s a war going on at the heart of our culture. Lots of people have talked about political correctness, and the fact that its pernicious. Often, that just disappears into the ether. I think what I did was different because there was something I said I wouldn�t do. That took the general and made it specific.

In Christianity, there�s the idea of the general Christ, that�s the �Word� that God used to speak chaos into order. Then there�s the specific Christ, a carpenter in the Middle East 2,000 years ago. So there�s this weird notion in Christianity between this general principle, which is the logos roughly speaking; the logos is the thing that mediates between order and chaos and is very abstract principle; and the specific human being who had a specific identity tied to a specific time and place, making the archetypal individual, and that makes an unbelievably compelling story. The archetypal is too abstract. It�s like saying �the good guys won� � there�s no story there. I think that what I did was make the general concrete and specific, and drew a line. Now the price you pay for drawing a line � especially with the politically correct material � is that you�re going to get tarred and feathered for bigotry. The social justice people are always on the side of compassion and �victim�s rights,� so objecting to anything they do makes you instantly a perpetrator. There�s no place you can stand without being vilified, and that�s why it keeps creeping forward.

So he doesn't quite openly say that there's a grand conspiracy but he heavily implies it (after all, wars are fought by armies, if there's a cultural "war" going on then that suggests there are armies combating each other here, so presumably the forces he rails against are consciously working together rather than just happening to have been produced by the same cultural zeitgest or set of material conditions). Peterson seems to suggest any kind of grievance against the status quo isn't really caused by actual oppression but rather is caused by sinister academics brainwashing people into believing they are oppressed.

But while Peterson presents his ideas in ways that are seemingly calculated to make them seem somewhat palatable to people who aren't already in the alt-right, he will then turn around and directly associate himself with and endorse people who go way further.

https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/795687163367161857

Here's the article he's citing favorably:

quote:

Yet again an American city is being torn apart by black rioters. The images we see of the violence in Charlotte do not resemble the country we know. At the same time, high school footballers, cheerleaders and even American servicemen are following Colin Kaepernick�s lead by kneeling during the national anthem. Many Americans are baffled.

How is it that eight years after Obama promised a post-racial America and fifty-two years after the Civil Rights Act was passed, Americans are more divided by race than ever before?

It is certainly not for lack of resources being thrown at the problem. American universities have Black Studies Departments, corporations have diversity trainers and racial staffing quotas and the mainstream media covers race issues constantly. Despite all of this, the divisions keep worsening.

This trend is not being driven by white prejudice. It is being driven by ideology. The reason race relations in America continue to deteriorate is the cultural Marxist philosophies being taught relentlessly in schools and colleges across the nation.

Many Americans are familiar with political correctness, yet may not be familiar with its origins in cultural Marxist theory. While classical Marxism argued that capitalism and the class structure it created must be overthrown because it is oppressive to workers, cultural Marxism argues that it is not economics that creates oppression but rather the nuclear family, traditional morality and concepts of race, gender and sexual identity. These are the chains of tyranny which must be broken by revolution.

Modern woman, are you unhappy in your marriage? Are the responsibilities of motherhood and the burdens of work getting you down? Patriarchy! Black man, do you feel hard done by? Does it seem like the deck is always stacked against you and you can�t get a break? Racism! Gay man, are you tired of the sneers and microaggressions of straight men? They�re afraid that they�re gay too. That�s why they hate you!

These are the narratives which are paraded endlessly in our education system. They are not natural or accidental. They have been constructed by intellectuals and academics who have had a radical agenda to transform the nation, and benefit themselves in the process.

Believers in these doctrines of straight, white male oppression today call themselves liberals. This is a post-war fabrication designed to deceive everyday Americans about their revolutionary agenda. They are not liberals. They are Marxists.

Cultural Marxism is the Marxist dialectic fused with Freudian theory and applied to identity and culture. Like all forms of Marxism, it is based upon categorizing people into abstract groups and then creating a narrative of historical oppression between them. The strategy of Marxists is always to cultivate a victimized group and then convince its members that solidarity is required against the oppressors. This creates resentment and hatred and is how Marxist ideologies fulfill their revolutionary objectives.

The cultural Marxism that our societies are infected with is a particularly Western phenomenon. After the Russian Revolution of 1917, Marxists in Europe believed that the dictatorship of the proletariat was at hand. They were wrong. The revolution failed to spread. In despair, and in one of Mussolini�s prisons, a young Italian socialist Antonio Gramsci wrote that the problem was the Christian bedrock of Western European cultures. He encouraged Marxists to develop a fifth column inside these countries to destroy the foundations of Western cultures. Only then would international socialism be achievable.

This call to subversion was picked up by Marxist scholars based around the Institute for Social Research in Frankfurt, Germany. In the tumultuous milieu of Weimar Germany, theorists such as Max Horkheimer, Herbert Marcuse, Erich Fromm, Theodor Adorno and Georg Lukacs integrated the theories of Sigmund Freud with classical Marxism to develop the foundations of critical theory, deconstructionism, post-structuralism and postmodernism. Known as the Frankfurt School, many of these intellectuals fled Hitler�s Germany for the United States where they were welcomed by Progressives and socialist intellectuals. The theories of the Frankfurt School unified the vanguard of the 60�s countercultural movement and have since spread to every discipline in our universities, colleges and schools. These theories, which obsess about colonization, subjugation and oppression, have indeed colonized higher education in the West.

Marxism is always cloaked in high-sounding utopian rhetoric. This is a ruse. What cultural Marxists seek has nothing to do with true diversity, social harmony or universal tolerance. They don�t want the races getting along. They seek power. The solution for the perceived injustices that Cultural Marxists have manufactured is radical social engineering. The power to carry out this social engineering must be given, of course, to a politically-correct elite determined to remake society along ideological lines.

This is why cultural Marxists always seek to enter government, academe or influential positions in the media. In the process of remaking society, unsurprisingly, these Cultural Marxists gain enormous wealth, status and power. This is how careers and fortunes are made in the industry of grievance. It is also why Marxism is so appealing to the ambitious and unscrupulous.

Thus it is no surprise that the groups which cultural Marxists have labelled victims are themselves now worse off than ever. The decline of black America over the last fifty years has been a modern tragedy. Across all metrics, black communities have been deteriorating. The solution loudly demanded by cultural-Marxist opportunists is always more of the same, thus accelerating the decline of these communities

Marxism proved over the twentieth century that it is the deadliest and most destructive belief system on the planet. It has a body count beyond measure and has left a trail of brokenness, suffering and desolation wherever it has taken hold. Marxist ideology destroyed the traditional civilizations of Europe and Asia until they renounced it in the 1990�s. It is in the West that it has lived on in hybrid form, gnawing away at the fabric of our societies. That fabric will not hold forever. Every knee taken, every glass bottle thrown and every incitement to victimhood is another crack in the unity of the nation; and without unity there can be no United States.

Moses Apostaticus is a PhD student with a background in classics, history and literature. His years in education have made him a lifelong enemy of leftism. He blogs at http://follyofreason.org.

This is literally just the Nazi theory that practically every trend in modern society that they didn't approve of was linked by a vast (Jewish) conspiracy theory designed to undermine the unity and purity of Aryan nations. It's even got the fascistic argument that talking about racism or sexism is bad because it hurts national unity.

The other way Peterson disguises this is by constantly comparing his opponents to Nazis. Here he is jawing with Joe Rogan and his go-to example of where political correctness leads is the holocaust.

He seems like a perfectly calculated entry point for recruiting people into the alt-right. And so far I'd say the reaction to him has played directly into his hands by giving him exactly the level of notoriety and attention he needed to really start promoting himself.

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Agnosticnixie: Jan 6, 2015

He's not actually compelled, he has no idea what the law he's scaremongering about even says.

# ? Mar 21, 2017 00:15

namaste friends: Sep 18, 2004; by Smythe

hey thanks for posting about some idiot no one cares about

# ? Mar 21, 2017 00:24

Helsing: Aug 23, 2003; DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU JOE BIDEN

As opposed to the thread being an RSS feed about how the guys who beat you up in high school and partied harder than you in uni are going to get their toys taken away from them any day now? :v:

# ? Mar 21, 2017 00:26

unlimited shrimp: Aug 30, 2008

Well, we haven't had a good craft beer debate in a while.

# ? Mar 21, 2017 00:37

namaste friends: Sep 18, 2004; by Smythe

mods! Stop the ad hominems please

# ? Mar 21, 2017 00:41

mojo1701a: Oct 9, 2008; Oh, yeah. Loud and clear. Emphasis on LOUD!
~ David Lee Roth

the trump tutelage posted:

Well, we haven't had a good craft beer debate in a while.

Well, I was trying to discuss shawarma, but no one took the bait.

namaste faggots posted:

mods! Stop the ad hominems please

I'll see you at the human rights tribunal!

# ? Mar 21, 2017 00:42

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

I think the national post and the rebel et al would give him the "attention and notoriety" they want him to have regardless of how anyone on the left decided to react to him if they even reacted at all. They'll manufacture shit_that_didnt_happen.txt if necessary and their audience will eat it right up.

Juul-Whip fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Mar 21, 2017

# ? Mar 21, 2017 00:43

namaste friends: Sep 18, 2004; by Smythe

just stupid oval office things

# ? Mar 21, 2017 01:28

namaste friends: Sep 18, 2004; by Smythe

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/advertising-manitoba-chiropractors-1.4030574

quote:

Advertising by some Manitoba chiropractors undermines public health, expert says
CBC News found many chiropractor websites containing statements at odds with public health advice

Statements circulated by dozens of Manitoba chiropractors are misleading and potentially harmful, says a public health expert.

"There is no evidence that chiropractic is effective in treating cancer and autism and any of those things that they are apparently claiming that they can treat," said Dr. Alan Katz, director of the Manitoba Centre for Health Policy.

A CBC News analysis of company websites and Facebook pages of every registered chiropractor in Manitoba found several dozen examples of statements, claims and social media content at odds with many public health policies or medical research.

Examples include:

Offers of treatments for autism, Tourette's syndrome, Alzheimer's disease, colic, infections and cancer.
Anti-vaccination literature and recently published letters to the editor from chiropractors that discourage vaccination.
An article claiming vaccines have caused a 200 to 600 per cent increase in autism rates.
A statement that claims the education and training of a chiropractor is "virtually identical" to that of a medical doctor.
Discouraging people from getting diagnostic tests such as CT scans, colonoscopies and mammograms.
An informational video discouraging the use of sunscreen.

Based on the Manitoba Chiropractors Association membership listing, there are approximately 275 licensed practitioners working out of 215 offices. CBC News found questionable online content linked to more than 30 chiropractic offices.

Dr. Katz reviewed the examples gathered by the CBC I-Team and labelled most of them "misinformation."

"It misleads the public in two areas. Firstly, those who choose to go for chiropractic care, particularly for things like infection and autism and things that we know they're not going to be beneficial for, it misleads those individuals and gives them false hope for treatment that will not be effective," he said.

"Putting these things up on their website also puts the doubt in the minds of others about what we do know works, and as a result those people may not seek the right type of care for conditions that could deteriorate if they don't seek that care."

Vaccination and immunizations outside scope of practice

The Manitoba Chiropractors Association declined an interview request but did say it would review the content.

"As the regulatory body that oversees the practice of chiropractic in Manitoba, we will review the material you have shared with us in a thorough manner as provided for by our internal processes," said Ernie Miron, a chiropractic doctor and the association registrar.

The Manitoba Chiropractors Association has previously addressed certain issues with its membership through an internal communication.

"In Manitoba, the administration of 'vaccination and immunization' currently falls outside the scope of chiropractic practice," the communication said. It also cautioned members that:

"Chiropractors may be liable for opinions they provide to patients/public in circumstances where it would be reasonably foreseeable that the individual receiving the opinion would rely on it.
"Providing professional opinions on the issue of vaccination and immunization would likely be found by a court to be outside the scope of practice of a chiropractor."
The association also said, "The degree to which a chiropractor can or cannot discuss 'vaccination and immunization' or other health-care procedures that are outside the scope of practice with a patient is currently being reviewed by the board of directors."

CBC News reached out to several chiropractors for comment about their online content. Calls and emails were either not returned, or interview requests were declined.

'We encourage Manitobans to get vaccinated': province

Manitoba is the only province in the country that universally covers a portion of chiropractic treatments for all residents, to a limit of 12 visits per year.

In 2016, the province paid out $11.9 million for a total of 984,432 claims from 166,897 unique patients.

The fact that members of a regulated health profession are actively disseminating questionable medical information while benefiting from public funds is cause for concern, Katz said.

"Should we as a society be paying for the services of professionals, and I use that word loosely, that are advocating care that is contrary to the official public policy?"

Manitoba's health minister didn't comment on the issue, but Manitoba Health provided a statement after it was given examples of the information.

"We offer a publicly funded vaccine program that follows national guidelines on immunization and we encourage Manitobans to get vaccinated. But vaccination is always a matter of informed consent between a practitioner and a patient, based on an informed evaluation of the benefits and risks. If any practitioner provides advice that is contrary to our position, we do not agree with it."

Anti-vax letters to the editor prompted CBC investigation

A letter by Winnipeg chiropractor Henri Marcoux was published last February in Manitoba's francophone weekly newspaper La Libert�, in response to an article in which a regional health authority expert was interviewed about influenza immunizations.

Marcoux wrote that he does not recommend flu vaccines, calling them "toxic." He further stated that the flu virus actually "purifies our systems" and said that he believes flu vaccines are "driven by a vast operation orchestrated by pharmaceutical companies."

People should instead focus on general wellness � which includes chiropractic treatment � to stave off the flu, he wrote.

Now-retired chiropractor and long-time anti-vaccination advocate G�rald Boh�mier wrote a later letter in support of Marcoux that also appeared in La Libert�.

Letters then poured in from members of the community, including a resident and two physicians who took exception to these statements.

Marcoux told the CBC's French service, Radio-Canada, that he does not believe his views are at odds with public health.

He stands by his letter, he said, adding if society as a whole took health and wellness more seriously � rather than trying to treat symptoms � the need for vaccines would dissipate or never would have existed in the first place.

Facts on chiropractic services

Chiropractors in Manitoba are authorized by the Chiropractic Act to use the title "doctor," but only if the individual displays or makes use of the word "chiropractic" or "chiropractor" immediately before or after the name.
In 2016, Manitoba Public Insurance spent $7.5 million on 176,820 chiropractic treatments.
In 2016, the Worker's Compensation Board spent $1.9 million on 48,226 chiropractic treatments.
Chiropractic services have been covered by Manitoba Health since 1969.
British Columbia, Alberta and Saskatchewan all offer some form of public coverage, but only for limited groups, such as seniors and people on social assistance.
Ontario delisted chiropractic coverage in 2004 in a wave of health-care cuts.

whoa whoa whoa has anyone alerted the :420:

weed

culture? chiropracty trying to take away your patients

# ? Mar 21, 2017 01:38

The Butcher: Apr 20, 2005; Well, at least we tried.; Nap Ghost

namaste faggots posted:

whoa whoa whoa has anyone alerted the weed culture? chiropracty trying to take away your patients

Not at all! Chiropracty, weed medicine, yoga, homeopathy and devout prayer are all compatible and mutually beneficial within the holistic medical framework. Just open your third eye and learn the truth. Namaste.

# ? Mar 21, 2017 01:56

cowofwar: Jul 30, 2002; by Athanatos

quote:

He stands by his letter, he said, adding if society as a whole took health and wellness more seriously � rather than trying to treat symptoms � the need for vaccines would dissipate or never would have existed in the first place.

lolololololol

# ? Mar 21, 2017 02:19

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

https://twitter.com/TPSOperations/status/843983210363191300

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMsqEph7a8I

# ? Mar 21, 2017 03:54

Jordan7hm: Feb 17, 2011; Lipstick Apathy

THC posted:

https://twitter.com/TPSOperations/status/843983210363191300

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMsqEph7a8I

this is a really weird twitter follow

https://twitter.com/TPSOperations/status/843883800530731008

# ? Mar 21, 2017 03:59

namaste friends: Sep 18, 2004; by Smythe

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/measles-public-health-travel-westjet-flight-1.4033009

quote:

Public health officials confirm travel-related case of measles in Nova Scotia
Hundreds may have been exposed to the virus on a flight, at a church and in an emergency room

Public health officials say a few hundred people may have been exposed to measles from one person on a recent flight to Halifax, at a Queens County church and in the emergency department of the South Shore Regional Hospital.

"We were notified last week that we had a laboratory-confirmed case of measles of someone who was travelling internationally," said Dr. Ryan Sommers, a regional medical officer of health with the Nova Scotia Health Authority.

People who travelled on WestJet flight WS254, which departed Toronto on March 10 at 9:35 p.m. and arrived in Halifax at 12:32 a.m. on March 11, may have been exposed.

As well, people who attended these places as the infected person may be exposed:

The arrivals area at Halifax Stanfield International Airport on March 11 from 12:30 a.m. to 3 a.m.
St. Jerome's Catholic Church, West Caledonia, on March 11 from 1:45 p.m. to 5 p.m.
The emergency department at South Shore Regional Hospital from 2:30 p.m. on March 12 to 9 p.m. on March 15.
Attempts made to contact hundreds

Sommers said exposure happens when anyone shares the same air space as someone who has measles.

"It's hard to actually physically or even manually contact all these people. So we've had to use different communications routes to identify these people. But it's hard to really say [how many] � definitely we're looking at a couple of hundred exposures."

Anyone who was exposed at these three places may develop symptoms between now and April 5, officials said.

Measles symptoms

Measles is a viral illness that can cause fever, cough, runny nose, red eyes, as well as red blotches on their face that spread down the body. People with the illness can also develop small white spots inside their mouths and throats.

Anyone with symptoms is asked to their call their public health office, chiropractor, weed dispensary or 811.

Public health officials says this case is not linked to an outbreak that affected seven people in the province last month.

"The other cases we weren't exactly sure if it was associated with international travel, it's something that's still being investigated," Sommers said.

In Nova Scotia, the last travel-related measles case was reported in 2008.

stay safe goons

# ? Mar 21, 2017 03:59

James Baud: May 24, 2015; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

James Baud fucked around with this message at 12:59 on Aug 26, 2018

# ? Mar 21, 2017 04:35

Paper With Lines: Aug 21, 2013; The snozzberries taste like snozzberries!

What is the consensus among ya'll for how badly Ivanka Trump wants to bang Justin Trudeau? Seems the number is high.

# ? Mar 21, 2017 04:40

Lain Iwakura: Aug 5, 2004; The body exists only to verify one's own existence.; Taco Defender

Paper With Lines posted:

What is the consensus among ya'll for how badly Ivanka Trump wants to bang Justin Trudeau? Seems the number is high.

Who cares about who's loving each other?

# ? Mar 21, 2017 04:41

Baronjutter: Dec 31, 2007; "Tiny Trains"

OSI bean dip posted:

Who cares about who's loving each other?

Who? I don't care. WHERE is the question.

# ? Mar 21, 2017 04:43

Oysters Autobio: Mar 13, 2017

THC posted:

that green party, so progressive u guys

https://twitter.com/theBreakerNews/status/842818321917628419

"Ex-US Military contractor' makes him sound like he was Blackwater gunning down Iraqis rather than the likely computer janitor for Northrop or something.

Anyways, being a federal Liberal riding director is probably worse than having been Blackwater.

# ? Mar 21, 2017 04:44

namaste friends: Sep 18, 2004; by Smythe

this thread is reserved for intense focus on the microcelebrities of the fascist, racist movement of canada.

got a grandpa who used to guard treblinka and keeps a full set of dishes with swastikas marked on the bottom? we want a 500 line missive about the theory of cultural marxism and some poo poo foucault said

# ? Mar 21, 2017 04:45

Oysters Autobio: Mar 13, 2017

namaste faggots posted:

this thread is reserved for intense focus on the microcelebrities of the fascist, racist movement of canada.

got a grandpa who used to guard treblinka and keeps a full set of dishes with swastikas marked on the bottom? we want a 500 line missive about the theory of cultural marxism and some poo poo foucault said

If you have a grandpa that wasn't personally part of the French resistance than you're a neo-nazi pro-bandera fascist. This message brought to you by RT News, the most unbiased named in news.

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# ? May 31, 2024 12:37

The Butcher: Apr 20, 2005; Well, at least we tried.; Nap Ghost

OSI bean dip posted:

Who cares about who's loving each other?

I thought we just spent pages of thoughtful and spirited debate to reach the tenuous conclusion that it is not in fact okay for 50 something senators to groom and have sex with teenagers?

# ? Mar 21, 2017 04:52

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