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Potato Salad posted:do we need to do a refresher on the different requirements for backup media, portable media, and performance media Love too vpn into my home Nas to restore redundant data at 1mbps. Anyway: it works for fast imaging of my MacBook that I can restore instantly and travels everywhere For $200 it was pretty good for 2 TB
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BeastOfExmoor posted:Interesting to see that MicroCenter and Sabrent, who both sell drives under their own names, are continuing to drop prices even after the announcement of the power outage last week. There must be an incredible glut of NAND in the pipeline. Everyone seems to be wary of that $100 mark, though. Sabrent's had any number of unannounced sales on Amazon of their Rockets, but the price has stayed near $100 for 1 TB every single time to date. Additionally, MicroCenter's kept their 1 TB Premium at $97.99 for the past month or so and holding. We shall see, but I doubt they'll lower the prices any more since I suspect they're approaching cost.
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# ? Jul 2, 2019 22:52 |
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Binary Badger posted:Everyone seems to be wary of that $100 mark, though. Sabrent's had any number of unannounced sales on Amazon of their Rockets, but the price has stayed near $100 for 1 TB every single time to date. Additionally, MicroCenter's kept their 1 TB Premium at $97.99 for the past month or so and holding. We shall see, but I doubt they'll lower the prices any more since I suspect they're approaching cost.
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 10:26 |
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I just impulse-bought a Sabrent 1TB NVMe last night. I was tired and, having read the news/rumour about the power outage causing prices to stay steady made me do it! Is the Sabrent as good as any other Phison E12? In the cold light of day I was wondering if I should've went with the similar Silicon Power model. I think it was the blue swooshes on the Sabrent and the fact that it was a couple of buxx cheaper that swayed me. They're pretty much the same in terms of quality, aren't they? i.e. They are the same board, so you've got just as much chance of one brand failing early as the next brand? Not that I expect any trouble from it for a couple of years.
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 12:33 |
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Ugh missed out on the 2TB 660p @ $110 on Amazon.
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 13:05 |
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apropos man posted:I just impulse-bought a Sabrent 1TB NVMe last night. I was tired and, having read the news/rumour about the power outage causing prices to stay steady made me do it! I checked out the website and it apparently has a 5 year warranty, not that that helps with data loss of course.. If it makes you feel better, I bought one too, so we can live in fear together!
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 14:52 |
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#BlueSwooshBros4Lyfe
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 15:21 |
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Palladium posted:Ugh missed out on the 2TB 660p @ $110 on Amazon.
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 16:03 |
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apropos man posted:#BlueSwooshBros4Lyfe gently caress it, I'm in for a 2TB Rocket RIGHT NOW.
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 18:05 |
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Palladium posted:Ugh missed out on the 2TB 660p @ $110 on Amazon. I think that was a pricing error though. Read a lot of guys were getting their orders cancelled.
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 20:21 |
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Seamonster posted:gently caress it, I'm in for a 2TB Rocket RIGHT NOW. Aww, man. You're putting my 1TB to shame! Still, I'm not a huge gamer and I expect mine to be the sweet spot in terms of capacity to hold half a dozen Steam games. Whatever gets rarely played will get sideloaded onto an old OCZ SATA SSD I have in my rig. I think I'm developing something of an addiction to buying these Phison E12 variants whenever I've got a bit of spare cash to throw around. The Sabrent Rocket will be my third one, after the BPXP 240G and the Corsair Force MP510, also a 240G. They all work flawlessly in my short experience with them, so far. Good luck with your 2TB one.
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 21:17 |
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Yeah sorta coming from a different place here. Got over $1000 of credit card cashback to blow on a Zen2 build so I'm rocking some yoloswag for once.
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 21:53 |
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Bulk DDR4 and TLC prices are still falling
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# ? Jul 5, 2019 03:03 |
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So to pick up on something I asked about earlier this year, I was looking to add another SSD to my computer, as I've been running out of storage space. I have two hard drives, a 500GB 850 EVO Samsung SSD, and a 2TB Western Digital WDC WD2003FZEX-00Z4S. The SSD has the OS, games, and plethora of other miscellanea . The 2TB serves as storage for files that I don't immediately need (archived files from my old computer, video, game installers, etc.) I just ordered a WD Blue 3D NAND 1TB PC SSD. I think I should be able to install it. Based on the old replies I got, my motherboard should have the capacity for more hard drives (ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. Z97-A-USB31, which means it should still have two free connectors). Is there anything else I should do or keep in mind? The only thing I'm worried about at this point is figuring out how I'm going to physically install it, and if I'm going to need to buy a rack or some kind of adhesives to get the drive to stay put. However, it's possible I overlooked something, so I thought I'd check with the thread.
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# ? Jul 7, 2019 05:54 |
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Max Wilco posted:The only thing I'm worried about at this point is figuring out how I'm going to physically install it, and if I'm going to need to buy a rack or some kind of adhesives to get the drive to stay put. SSDs are small and very light, they can get away with minimal attachment. If you don't move your PC ever you can just leave it sitting in somewhere with the power & sata wires holding it. My personally vouched method is to use a bit of adhesive velcro, you can get that at any craft or dollar store. Or you can zip tie it to any handy part of your case, add zip ties together if needed. The only reason to get a mounting bracket is if you have a case window and are concerned about how things look.
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# ? Jul 7, 2019 06:48 |
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Klyith posted:SSDs are small and very light, they can get away with minimal attachment. If you don't move your PC ever you can just leave it sitting in somewhere with the power & sata wires holding it. Only time I move it is to keep to take it out for dusting. Otherwise, I keep it down in the cubby-hole where stays put. Still, I would want to anchor the SSD, since otherwise, I will inevitably forget that it's not secured, and jostle it around if I take it out for dust or if rearrange the furniture or something. I though about using these Scotch Mounting Squares to do it. The ones I linked are pretty big, but I have some smaller, restickable ones.
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# ? Jul 7, 2019 08:55 |
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Max Wilco posted:Only time I move it is to keep to take it out for dusting. Otherwise, I keep it down in the cubby-hole where stays put. I use a couple of the 1x1" removable mounting squares and that's usually more than enough for a SSD. I used the regular kind once and getting it back off was awful (as designed).
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# ? Jul 7, 2019 09:30 |
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https://twitter.com/TechDeals_16/status/1148386350388916224?s=19
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# ? Jul 9, 2019 04:23 |
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Is this better than the Corsair MP510 960 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive? When I compare the specs on those Newegg pages, it looks like the Adata is 3D NAND instead of 3D TLC (not sure if that's better or worse). The sequential read/write speeds are nearly identical but the Corsair has way higher figures for random read/write. Edit: vvv Thanks! surf rock fucked around with this message at 14:04 on Jul 9, 2019 |
# ? Jul 9, 2019 04:33 |
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The Corsair MP510 and SX8200 Pro both use 64L Toshiba 3D TLC NAND. They're both good drives and comparable in performance. The only thing the MP510 will have over the SX8200 Pro is that there are easily a dozen and a half functionally identical Phison E12 drives out there and they're getting a very healthy user support network with regards to firmware updates and tinkering to provide extra functionality, performance, and control over them. That being said, making use of that non-official advice and tools carries with it the very real possibility of voiding your warranty. Also, if you live near a Micro Center, their 1TB Inland Premium drive is a Phison E12 drive the same as the Corsair MP510 and with a $5 RetailMeNot coupon is currently selling for ~$93 before tax. The downside is the Inland drive is only warrantied for three years while *most* E12 drives carry a five year warranty. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 04:53 on Jul 9, 2019 |
# ? Jul 9, 2019 04:51 |
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Anything wrong with a Silicon Power Ace A55? Newegg has them on sale for $90 for a 1TB. SM2258XT Dram less with an SLC cache. Going to use it as a portable hard drive so don't need it for really big files. SlayVus fucked around with this message at 11:54 on Jul 9, 2019 |
# ? Jul 9, 2019 11:51 |
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My understanding is that M2 SATA is just another SATA form-factor. Is this also true of NVMe, with respects to PCIe? In that, for example, a converter card would be purely passive, or that on-drive NVMe controller is basically just a RAID card handling all its own poo poo, and the only thing it wants from the motherboard in terms of mediation is a straight line straight up the Northbridge's rear end and into a kernal drive? Like, I'm just curious about backwards compatibility and making sure I have it right that there is never going to be a catch, hardware-wise: you could meticulously cut equal-length strands out of a CAT5 cable, use them to manually bridge all the pins on one of these things into an expansion port on a motherboard from 2004, and as long as the operating system had the right drivers, it just wouldn't give a poo poo at all. ...To be somewhat more practical: I have a few old laptops with crashed HDDs sitting around. I'm not going to use them, but I know students and clerks who are for want of any old x86 with a keyboard attached, so I wanna throw super cheap but firmly adequate SSDs in them and hand them out like candy. What's my best bet? Anyone out there selling two-generation old 120gb drives in six-packs?
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Eikre posted:...To be somewhat more practical: I have a few old laptops with crashed HDDs sitting around. I'm not going to use them, but I know students and clerks who are for want of any old x86 with a keyboard attached, so I wanna throw super cheap but firmly adequate SSDs in them and hand them out like candy. What's my best bet? Anyone out there selling two-generation old 120gb drives in six-packs? 10 packs, but yeah: https://smile.amazon.com/Patriot-Memory-Burst-120GB-Internal/dp/B07FF8HBSQ/ https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07Q8TN3B8/ singles on sale for 16.99 https://smile.amazon.com/Kingston-120GB-Solid-SA400S37-120G/dp/B01N6JQS8C/ Other than that I'd watch ebay. On retail sites a lot of times older models will have their value inflate just due to only having third party sellers with stock before long.
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# ? Jul 9, 2019 18:45 |
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Eikre posted:My understanding is that M2 SATA is just another SATA form-factor. Is this also true of NVMe, with respects to PCIe? In that, for example, a converter card would be purely passive, This is correct on both fronts. M.2 slots can have SATA, USB 3, and PCI Express connections in them. The slot will have keys that denote its configuration and prevent the wrong type of drive being plugged into a slot that doesn't support it. Its kinda complicated really: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.2 NVMe is a protocol that uses PCI Express as its physical layer. Thus it can work on any PCI Express interface port with the appropriate passive adapter.
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# ? Jul 9, 2019 19:01 |
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Eikre posted:My understanding is that M2 SATA is just another SATA form-factor. Is this also true of NVMe, with respects to PCIe? In that, for example, a converter card would be purely passive, or that on-drive NVMe controller is basically just a RAID card handling all its own poo poo, and the only thing it wants from the motherboard in terms of mediation is a straight line straight up the Northbridge's rear end and into a kernal drive? Kind of confused as to what you're asking here. If you're asking if you can put M.2 SATA drives into laptops from 2004 - that's possible (barring the chance that some might be using SATA 1.0, which should *still* work), but you'd need an M.2 SATA to 2.5" SATA converter. Those are relatively inexpensive. If you're asking about the feasibility of getting an NVMe drive working on those laptops - no matter how much soldering you do it isn't going to change the fact that you still have to change the BIOS to recognize them. There are people who've done BIOS surgery to get NVMe drives working as boot devices all the way back to the Z68 series of chipsets, and if you really look around you'll find directions on how to modify popular legacy BIOSes to accept NVMe drives. NVMe drives have no circuitry/functionality on them to act as boot devices - they rely on the BIOS to handle that. So to clarify - are you asking *one* thing here, or two? Because getting SSDs into 2003-04 laptops shouldn't be difficult at all, whereas 'manually bridging' an NVMe drive directly onto northbridge (which don't really exist anymore - most boards use a Platform Controller Hub and the northbridge functionality is performed by the CPU) leads using repurposed patch cabling on a chipset that predates NVMe by close to a decade is kinda . BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Jul 9, 2019 |
# ? Jul 9, 2019 19:04 |
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too much skew, too much reflection, too much crosstalk you vastly underappreciate how difficult high-frequency electronics design or pci engineering is
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# ? Jul 10, 2019 12:25 |
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Just found a Samsung 860 QVO 2TB for 170€ - seems like a good deal to me, despite the crapiness associated with QLC? /Edit: would be used as a game drive, I would keep on booting from my current SSD. Chikimiki fucked around with this message at 13:51 on Jul 11, 2019 |
# ? Jul 11, 2019 13:15 |
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That seems like a great price. If consistently fast writing speed over many GB of data written at once isn't an important part of your usage, it'll do just fine.
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 13:38 |
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Klyith posted:SSDs are small and very light, they can get away with minimal attachment. If you don't move your PC ever you can just leave it sitting in somewhere with the power & sata wires holding it. Ive done this with a bunch of machines. Especially if the power and sata cables are at different angles (even more so if they are routed from the backside of a modern case) the ssd wont go anywhere.
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# ? Jul 12, 2019 10:51 |
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I have an extra 256gb nvme after upgrading a laptop. I want to place it into a external enclosure that connects via usb-c. Is there anything specific to look out for? I like this one so far. Im okay with spending the $35 its priced at. Is there a better option for the same or cheaper? https://www.amazon.com/Enclosure-US...gateway&sr=8-13
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# ? Jul 13, 2019 06:49 |
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Fauxtool posted:I have an extra 256gb nvme after upgrading a laptop. I want to place it into a external enclosure that connects via usb-c. The last time I looked they were closer to $50; I'd give that one a shot.
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# ? Jul 13, 2019 08:27 |
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Cheapest 1tb nvme m.2 I've seen, for $93 - it is TLC. https://computers.woot.com/offers/centon-m-2-solid-state-drives?ref=w_cnt_lnd_cat_pc_8_1
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# ? Jul 13, 2019 16:05 |
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skylined! posted:Cheapest 1tb nvme m.2 I've seen, for $93 - it is TLC. https://computers.woot.com/offers/centon-m-2-solid-state-drives?ref=w_cnt_lnd_cat_pc_8_1 Caveat emptor: http://www.centon.com/download/products/RDSSDNVME-M.2-2280-IT-1TB/Datasheet.pdf I don't think I've ever seen such an information-free datasheet. Not even listing the controller it uses? Micro Center's back to offering the Inland drive for shipping: https://www.microcenter.com/product/600422/1tb-ssd-3d-nand-m2-2280-pcie-nvme-30-x4-internal-solid-state-drive
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# ? Jul 13, 2019 17:18 |
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I find it’s pretty hit or miss for drive makers to list the controllers, but I would bet it’s a phison. They seem to own the low end consumer nvme for non OEMs like Intel and Samsung. Who else is there for 3rd party nvme? Microsemi/microchip does the enterprise for HGST etc but I’m drawing a blank on other silicon vendors.
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# ? Jul 13, 2019 17:41 |
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Marvell sells several NVME controllers on the open market. I know there are others too, I just can't remember which companies. Phison seems to have the most compelling package of silicon, reference board design, reference firmware, and price right now, which is why you see them all over the place: anyone can make a decent SSD if they just avoid the temptation of doing anything beyond changing the logo silkscreened on the PCB.
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# ? Jul 13, 2019 18:05 |
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Oh yeah Marvell is the other biggie! Thanks.
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# ? Jul 13, 2019 18:20 |
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Fauxtool posted:I have an extra 256gb nvme after upgrading a laptop. I want to place it into a external enclosure that connects via usb-c. Sabrent's on sale for $30 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07K4TZQ7...SSD%20Enclosure edit it requires a coupon code apparently? https://slickdeals.net/f/13214104-a...atnav_computers skylined! fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Jul 13, 2019 |
# ? Jul 13, 2019 19:11 |
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I have the Plugable and another: https://www.amazon.com/Plugable-Tool-free-Enclosure-Thunderbolt-Compatible/dp/B07N48N5GR/ I get up to 930 MB/sec on straight copies with an Inland Premium 1 TB installed. It's not really Thunderbolt compatible, it's USB-C compatible as far as I can tell, if it were really Tbolt it should get much higher throughput (like up to 2 GB/sec) It's got the same controller as this, which I also bought: https://www.mydigitaldiscount.com/m...mdnvme-m2x-usb/ This one also uses a JMS 583 controller with the added deal that MDD provides a firmware updater for their unit dated March of this year. Don't see much difference in speed after applying it though. Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 05:03 on Jul 14, 2019 |
# ? Jul 14, 2019 04:58 |
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skylined! posted:Cheapest 1tb nvme m.2 I've seen, for $93 - it is TLC. https://computers.woot.com/offers/centon-m-2-solid-state-drives?ref=w_cnt_lnd_cat_pc_8_1 BIG HEADLINE posted:Caveat emptor: http://www.centon.com/download/products/RDSSDNVME-M.2-2280-IT-1TB/Datasheet.pdf Looks like it's basically a 600p. Not an enthusiastic recommendation.
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Can anyone recommend an easy to use, free tool for cloning a drive? I want to upgrade some relatives' PC with SSDs now that they finally cheapish
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